Vmart wrote:PresIke wrote:Vmart wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:I don't like this at all and think the kid has got some nerve to think he's above going to his exit meeting and hope the Knicks/Phil make sure to let him know who he's working for. This is not a good look for KP IMO. Anyone that was active on here around the time KP was drafted knows i wanted him from the beginning so i'm a big KP fan but this changes the way i look at him somewhat. I really hope he has a good explanation for doing this. Phil isn't the kind of guy that will take shyt like this from any player let alone a 21 year old 2nd year player who isn't as good as he's made out to be and it wouldn't put it past Phil to trade him. I'd hate to see the kid go though cause he's still growing.
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This was a bad move by KP. Young kids are easily influenced. The Knicks sign his paycheck not the players the loyalty is to the organization.
The players run pro sports for the most part and for good reason. He can get paid anywhere else if he wants and loyalty to an organization you've only been working for less than 2 years for and were DRAFTED to play for (so not even his choice) is a silly expectation.
For some reason it doesn't sound right. The players come and go the organization usually stay. He was drafted by the Knicks but like you said, he doesn't have to sign. He could have gone elsenwhere but once he signed the dotted line his responsibility is to the organization. If going to an exit interview is required then he should be there. Unless the organization said he need not come. Which probably is what the truth is. The Knicks probably told him to keep away from the media who are going to beat them with Melo questions.
Players exert power in different ways. Solidarity with your co-workers against management when you feel they are out of line is not exactly something that never happens and sometimes is not without good reason.
He isn't their slave. He's an employee, and one that the organization HEAVILY is relying upon for the future of the team, and is generally wildly popular with the fans.
I don't think we should be assuming what KP was thinking at all. He seems like a bright young man with a good head on his shoulders. What Phil did is quite outside the lines of what we come to expect from management when it comes to treating star players, especially.
Phil airing this dirty laundry is an outdated tactic to deal with star athletes at this level that almost always backfires now and in other circumstances usually leads to the manager being fired. But Phil thinks he's teflon -- he is for now -- so he went and tried it because he feels his reputation is being tarnished. I think it's immature of him to say what he said, just like when he said the arguably racist comments about entourages earlier.
He's out of touch with what things are like today and a good manager/executive really can benefit from that to be to be successful.
In English soccer last season one famous manager, Jose Mourinho, who has a big reputation for success, but also for using the press to call out his players pretty much had a mutiny on his hands after he seemed to cross the line with the mistreatment of a female team doctor and complaining about his own players to the media. He scolded the doctor on the field for coming out to treat their biggest star player for being injured because he was worried it would cause them to not have enough time to come back (I believe) or it was interfering with an opportunity to score. The entire team turned on him as he kept complaining and sounding isolated from his team, and he was fired one season after they had won the title with he as the manager.
This season, Claudio Raneri, a wildly popular and charming manager with fans and the media becoming so after managing Leicester City -- a team that had 5000-1 odds to win the league last year and did -- was also fired for arguably having internal problems with his star players. Reports came out that those players were asking management to fire him as the team was struggling with and looked sure to be relegated to a lower league. As soon as he was fired the team won 5 games in a row and have saved their season and playing like the did a year ago. I suspect part of what happened is that the players may have also not liked how the manager was getting a lot of the credit in the media because it sounds nice. Something else must have been awry, but fans in England cried about how badly the players treated the manager and how bad it has gotten with athletes, blah blah blah.
Point is, it doesn't matter. It is what it is and you either get with the program as an executive and manager or face the reality of the best players not wanting to play for your team.
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4/15/2017 6:01 PM