HofstraBBall wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:Knixkik wrote:wargames wrote:Knixkik wrote:I have always been supportive of Melo. He is the scapegoat the same way Ewing was. NY fans just don't learn. However, if it's time to move on, that's fine. It's reality that most of these relationships end in divorce. Change is the only constant. But I would have loved to see porzingis at the 5 and Melo at the 4 before a divorce. But it may be too little too late. We can't learn much the 2nd half of the year if both sides are thinking it's time to move on.
I also agree. Us losing isn't Melo's fault. But the Knicks need to get younger and their time table for success likely doesn't match Melo's. The Knicks also need to keep cap space open. Literally the best time to trade Melo to would be Boston for those 2 Brooklyn Picks..... maybe through in Lee or KOQ to make it a better deal.
I doubt we can get both picks. I also doubt melo would want to go to boston. I think LAC would be his landing spot, if any. Too bad they don't have much we can use. Maybe they consider trading us Blake if we also take that terrible Wes Johnson deal off their hands and include o'quinn, who would really help them off the bench. Flip Griffin to a 3rd team. Not sure what else we can do. I'm not taking Clippers junk and they have no picks. Maybe to Cleveland for Thompson and this year's 1st rounder but Melo really doesn't make much sense for them. I'd hold off for Griffin. We could send them melo and a 3rd team can give them extra depth. If and when a deal happens, it will have to be an elaborate 3 team trade. Maybe Melo to LA, Griffin to boston, Crowder headed to LA too. Bk 1st rounder to us. Fillers to make the contracts work (boston is under the cap which makes it easier.) Something like that could work.
One of the best case scenarios for me in a Melo trade would be a 3 way and i don't care who the third team is as long as the Celtics are one of the teams and i would do everything i can and add players with Melo as long as we get J.Crowder and Avery Bradley along with a draft pick or two. Both Bradley and Crowder play strong defense and both have good offense as well and you add those two around KP and others and i'd be happy for the rebuild around KP process to start. Bradley can play the one or the two and we could even keep D.Rose with that group.
What team and/or player would the Celts take for guys mentioned. I mean you mentioned some pretty valuable assets. And why would anyone give that much for press beaten, fan **** on, Phil bashing.Melo? Think only way Melo gets traded is he gets tired of Phil and demands a trade. Which then leaves us with squat except for possibility we tank and get a KP or Khame Brown.
We can't trade Melo without his approval but we also don't have to trade Melo if we don't want to. You put his name out there and see what teams are willing to give up for him but if you don't like it then it's not a horrible thing to still have Melo on the team. We also have some good players that we could add to any deal that would make teams alright with giving up some better assets whether that be young players or draft picks. Guys like C.Lee, KOQ, J.Holiday, B.Jennings, Kuz, Billy, L.Thomas are all good pieces that we could add one or two to a deal to get a better return for Melo.
I think it's pretty funny that any fan thinks they know what teams would give up for Melo or any player cause there's no way any of us could know. I've seen many players get traded that people thought would never be able to get traded. We traded guys like A.Bargnani, Amare', J.Calderon and others that people were absolutely adamant about us never being able to trade any of them and i know you're gonna come up with what we had to do to trade them or why we ended up trading them but i don't care about all of that cause we still traded them when every single person said there was no way to do it and now people are saying there's no way we could trade Carmelo Anthony....lol.
The biggest thing with trading Melo and getting a good return will be if he gives Phil a list longer than just the Cavs and Clippers and if he doesn't then all that would need to happen is getting a third team involved and a trade can be worked out. I understand that Melo has big money still on his contract, I understand that there's also a trade kicker, i understand that Melo is 32 and will be 33 when the 2017/18 season starts, i understand that Melo is pretty much an offense only player and i also understand that every team knows all of that and everything else there is to know about Melo but even with all of that teams will still want Melo and as long as Phil doesn't get impatient and will stand by what he wants in return and doesn't give in to a team just to get the deal done then around that trade deadline someone will give in and trade for Melo, and if they don't then we just hold onto Melo and trade him in the offseason. We won't get as good a return as we would of 2/3 years ago obviously but i think we'd get a good enough return for him.
