Finestrg wrote:callmened wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:callmened wrote:Finestrg wrote:I want Solomon Hill in FA. I think hiring Vogel helps us get Hill. Also think Vogel is one hell of a head coach. Getting both would be a real score. Win-win all the way. I hope they explore both possibilities.
LOVE Solomon Hill. Im a BIG fan of his!!! id give him 10 mill easily. solid all around player who is hungry.
$10m over 4 years is not bad $10m a year is $8m more than he has earned from his play so far. He had a decent year this year in less than 900 minutes. That is not even back up minutes.
fair point. in a normal yr I would give him 5 mill. but once this cap explodes starters will be getting 15 mill. I think hes worth 10.
am I right? who knows? its more an illustration of how much I like him as a player
I understand your logic about the cap exploding -- I'm mean to be brutally honest though, I want these guys to get paid but I hope it's not that out of hand. Part of the reason I like him is I don't think he'd be that expensive, compared to guys like Batum, Turner, Fournier, Bazemore.. I think he could easily be as good if not better than any of those guys once he finally gets the same usage, but as of right now, I would hope to get him for far less those those 4. That would be my plan. Now I don't think he'd come dirt cheap--I think Indy likes him and I just read an article where Solo talked about how much he likes it there, how they drafted him and gave him his shot in the NBA, how he likes his teammates and how money won't be the sole factor in any decision he makes. He also talked about Vogel, how he told him to be ready for an opportunity at the end of the season/playoffs -- Vogel kept his word and started playing Hill at the end and I think that meant a lot to Hill. If we got Vogel, I think we could get Hill. I think it could give us a big leg up on any competition for his services, Indy and whoever else...It's all up to uncle Phil, though. Who knows if he even likes either guy, Vogel or Hill. 
A competitive contract, the opportunity to start at the 2 (why not?), to get more shots and to reunite with Vogel, a coach he likes and trusts. We offer that and I think we could get him.
I like everything about him. His size/strength, his underrated skill level and his ability to swing and play both 2 & 3. For me, he'd start at the 2, then swing over to backup 3 to pick up even more mins and shots. This guy could help us and would be a nice young piece to move forward with. No question in my mind.
I thought Hill was a good pick when he came out and thought he had potential as a 3 & D player but he has not put it together yet. My concern is that last year he was given an opportunity to show what he could do and he was terrible offensively. Now that was just his second year but at least shoot 43%.
Even though the cap will explode I do not think he is the type of player to get a big raise. This is not someone like Aminu who kept flashing and developing year after year or Someone like Moe Harkless who flashed but fell out of favor then flashed again when he got another shot in a major role. Hill was/is an end of bench player trying to hang on. Maybe he'll turn out to be great but he is the type of buy low and long with partial guarantees or team option type.
I'd pay Moe Harkless near $10m over Solomon Hill. Harkless is younger and probably more upside. I hope Someone(not Knicks) really over pays Harkless though because that could open up the door for Crabbe.
They have to decide if they want to keep Leonard, Henderson, Harkless, and Crabbe knowing that McCollom will likely get the max and Plumlee is turning into a play making center.
5/5/2016 7:13 PM