yellowboy90 wrote:Melo was bricking those shots consistently earlier in the year

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Fellas...Rambo got the boys playing some darn good ball last two games. Looks like they bought into the system. Both units playing well.

System has never been the problem.
It's about KP playing like a star (he has the last 2 games) and guys making their good open shots, which leads to the team having a flow.

Golden State wouldn't look anything like they do if they had the Knicks talent. That's just how it is. You need talent.

One change in the last 2 has been the 3 point shooting. They're freely shooting the 3 pointers. If you make 8/20 on three pointers, it's like going 12/20 on two pointers. There's plenty of value in being able to get good looks from 3 point land in your offense and taking it.

I think that's a key moving forward. KP has to play consistently like a 2nd star and we need guys that can knock down the open shots. On offense that should be enough to be very good.

Yeah. Obviously you need talent regardless of any system you're playing for it to work, but they have bought into the system the last couple games. Their execution in the halfcourt set running the triangle has been spot on. They're playing with control and poise like they know what they're doing and reacting to the defense well taking what it gives them. There's no hesitancy or confusion--especially from the starting unit. Playing really cohesive. The 3 point shooting definitely helps too, but the shots are coming from good passing. KP getting his legs and finding his shot again certainly helps, too. They do need him as a solid 2nd option. Give Rambis credit, though. I never saw this type of triangle execution under Fish--just chaos.

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Fellas...Rambo got the boys playing some darn good ball last two games. Looks like they bought into the system. Both units playing well.

System has never been the problem.
It's about KP playing like a star (he has the last 2 games) and guys making their good open shots, which leads to the team having a flow.

Golden State wouldn't look anything like they do if they had the Knicks talent. That's just how it is. You need talent.

One change in the last 2 has been the 3 point shooting. They're freely shooting the 3 pointers. If you make 8/20 on three pointers, it's like going 12/20 on two pointers. There's plenty of value in being able to get good looks from 3 point land in your offense and taking it.

I think that's a key moving forward. KP has to play consistently like a 2nd star and we need guys that can knock down the open shots. On offense that should be enough to be very good.

What the hellz does that even mean?? lol

FINAL
NYK 106 CHI 94

SocraticBallin22 wrote: They're playing with control and poise like they know what they're doing and reacting to the defense well taking what it gives them. There's no hesitancy or confusion--especially from the starting unit. Playing really cohesive.

yellowboy90 wrote:Melo was bricking those shots consistently earlier in the year

He's getting back to being where he was before he stepped on that f'n ref's foot.

Makes you wonder how much that one step really turned our season around in a bad way.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Fellas...Rambo got the boys playing some darn good ball last two games. Looks like they bought into the system. Both units playing well.

System has never been the problem.
It's about KP playing like a star (he has the last 2 games) and guys making their good open shots, which leads to the team having a flow.

Golden State wouldn't look anything like they do if they had the Knicks talent. That's just how it is. You need talent.

One change in the last 2 has been the 3 point shooting. They're freely shooting the 3 pointers. If you make 8/20 on three pointers, it's like going 12/20 on two pointers. There's plenty of value in being able to get good looks from 3 point land in your offense and taking it.

I think that's a key moving forward. KP has to play consistently like a 2nd star and we need guys that can knock down the open shots. On offense that should be enough to be very good.

What the hellz does that even mean?? lol

I was going to ask the same thing lol You put Golden State in the triangle, and they still scored 130 a night. Doesn't make a difference.

Hahaha that makes no sense. If GS had our talent (team) they would be just as bad......well no shizit sherlock...lol

newyorker4ever wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Fellas...Rambo got the boys playing some darn good ball last two games. Looks like they bought into the system. Both units playing well.

I know there isn't much time left but lets wait to see if they can keep it up for at least 4/5 games before we start saying they all have bought in and that we're all of the sudden good again. But i feel ya.

If Knicks finish strong like this and end up with 34-35 wins that's a real compelling argument to bring Rambo back. Remember, if you bring in a new coach, it's like starting all over again. If they are learning, progressing and improving, why change things? Not that I'm a huge Rambo fan but I like what I see the last two games. We just need a pg.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

matt wrote:if Jackson uses these last two games as a reason to hire Rambis full time, that would be a disaster

We just beat a team who is battling for a playoff spot on back to back nights; that is a huge accomplishment for this team--shows progress.

nixluva wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Fellas...Rambo got the boys playing some darn good ball last two games. Looks like they bought into the system. Both units playing well.

System has never been the problem.
It's about KP playing like a star (he has the last 2 games) and guys making their good open shots, which leads to the team having a flow.

Golden State wouldn't look anything like they do if they had the Knicks talent. That's just how it is. You need talent.

One change in the last 2 has been the 3 point shooting. They're freely shooting the 3 pointers. If you make 8/20 on three pointers, it's like going 12/20 on two pointers. There's plenty of value in being able to get good looks from 3 point land in your offense and taking it.

I think that's a key moving forward. KP has to play consistently like a 2nd star and we need guys that can knock down the open shots. On offense that should be enough to be very good.

What the hellz does that even mean?? lol

I was going to ask the same thing lol You put Golden State in the triangle, and they still score 130 a night. Doesn't make a difference.

The point is simple... You need talent to win and the system is not nearly as important as the talent. When our players perform better it suddenly shows what is possible in this system. That's why I have argued against abandoning the system. Much better to stay with it and continue to develop our players and add talent!!!

Yeah if the team understands the system and knows what to do, it can work, but the team needs to get to the point where it's instinctive and reactionary to the defense. I've seen that the last two games. I haven't seen that at all under Fish. They were just mechanical and hesitant. Now they're just taking their time, surveying the defense and just reacting. That's how you play the triangle. We just need to start running a little bit more.