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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
3/7/2016 3:32 PM
Here's another ex-Sixer we can go bananas over! Christian Wood! Let the games begin!
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Ira
Posts: 24688 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/14/2001 Member: #91 |
3/7/2016 3:39 PM
There's nothing to lose. He can learn the offensive and defensive systems this season, so he's ready to contribute next season. He'll make our backcourt faster. I'd like to see him play a more aggressive defense. It would be huge if he improves his outside shot, but even if he doesn't, he can still help this team.
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
3/7/2016 3:40 PM
NYKBocker wrote:If that is the case then you will never find players like Jeremy Lin and even Danny Green before he was with the Spurs. Danny Green was a nothing player in his first year in Cleveland. He got cut then was in the D-League before SA picked him up and flourished. Sometimes you have the eyeball test and go from there. I don't think the Knicks are in any position to be choosy on how we get players. Bingo. Completely agree. Wroten is a guy who always stood out to me when I saw the Sixers the past two years. He's certainly a worth a look. I hope he gets a long look. ¿ △ ?
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
3/7/2016 4:00 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:I want you guys to imagine for a second Wroten and Grant playing in the backcourt together. Both are big guards; both are uber athletic; both have the ability to play good defense and get in passing lanes; both can break down a defense and get in the paint; both would push the pace leading to more fast break points and easier buckets. The only negative is that they're not good shooters yet or know the triangle well. The good news is shooting can be improved with mechanics and work. They have the potential to both become decent shooters. I like the prospects of both being really young developing in our system.then I imagine the whole defense packing the paint and daring those two to take long shots  Grants problem is nobody respects his jumper and nobody is afraid of his jumping beating you. Wroten will see the same if he cant keep people honest. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
3/7/2016 4:00 PM LAST EDITED: 3/7/2016 4:17 PM
with limited flexibility, the knicks have to think outside the box or take gambles on young players. That includes players like wroten (who im afriad might be damaged goods). Ive been following this kid since he was a jr in HS. he used to be a an even better football player until he tore his ACL (yes the same ACL) and concentrated on basketball. thats why he wasnt high in all the recruiting trails. and now he suffered the same ACL injury last yr. theres no doubt he has physical talent - well at least he did. but this is a gamble - low risk gamble - cuz his career might even be over. who knows but i wouldnt get hopes up just yet. i think it was a smart move to obtain him, rehab him and teach him the triangle (say what you want if you can learn the triangle then youre smarter off for it).
with that said, keep looking into these low risk options: Ray McCallum. Like Nixluva and finestrg - im a big fan of his Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/7/2016 4:14 PM
mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:crzymdups wrote:fishmike wrote:crzymdups wrote:and is a high end athlete by NBA standards (assuming the knee returns to 100% and ACLs usually do). Forget about the Linsanity aspect, but look at him, a guy who has been passed up a couple of times but can obviously play. Not a star but a good NBA player. No reason Wroten cant be a story like that, also no reason to suggest he will be.knicks1248 wrote:Moonangie wrote:nyk4ever wrote:some career numbers in regards to wroten... No problem if you want to have low expectations. It's not like he's an NBA star. He's a prospect that you at least know has been in the NBA for a little while and you have some idea of what he can do at the NBA level. Despite his flaws he's had games that show the potential he's got if he can continue to improve his game and knowledge of how to play in a team game. Like many of our young players, he's got holes in his game. Mostly just his shooting. Good thing is that he's young and there's still a chance he can make progress. IMO what Wroten starts with is some natural abilities we need at guard. Size and length, full court speed, breakdown ability, athleticism, court vision, passing ability and confidence in his ability. That's a lot to start off with. |
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/7/2016 4:22 PM
fishmike wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:I want you guys to imagine for a second Wroten and Grant playing in the backcourt together. Both are big guards; both are uber athletic; both have the ability to play good defense and get in passing lanes; both can break down a defense and get in the paint; both would push the pace leading to more fast break points and easier buckets. The only negative is that they're not good shooters yet or know the triangle well. The good news is shooting can be improved with mechanics and work. They have the potential to both become decent shooters. I like the prospects of both being really young developing in our system.then I imagine the whole defense packing the paint and daring those two to take long shots The tough part is finding other ways to make something happen even when you aren't the best shooter. Wroten has shown much more ability to create something out of nothing. He's at another level above Jerian and Gallo in terms of handle, quicks and athletic ability. He is also HYPER aggressive coming off screens or if the defender turns his head even for a split second. In much the same way as DWILL can draw fouls in this offense, I can see Wroten getting to the line a lot too. He just sees the lanes and attacks them much quicker than Gallo or Jerian does so far. |
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SocraticBallin22
Posts: 23888 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/3/2015 Member: #6096 |
3/7/2016 4:24 PM LAST EDITED: 3/7/2016 4:25 PM
fishmike wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:I want you guys to imagine for a second Wroten and Grant playing in the backcourt together. Both are big guards; both are uber athletic; both have the ability to play good defense and get in passing lanes; both can break down a defense and get in the paint; both would push the pace leading to more fast break points and easier buckets. The only negative is that they're not good shooters yet or know the triangle well. The good news is shooting can be improved with mechanics and work. They have the potential to both become decent shooters. I like the prospects of both being really young developing in our system.then I imagine the whole defense packing the paint and daring those two to take long shots Yes...but shooting can be improved with working on proper mechanics in practice and with lots of reps, coupled with confidence. Many bad shooters have become decent, respectable shooters in the NBA. What you can't teach or get better at is: A) athleticism B) Size C) breakdown ability against defenses attacking the rim D) lateral quickness to defend and long wingspan to play passing lanes. Either you have this or you don't. And it's something we currently DO NOT have, and it kills us. It's all about development. |
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SocraticBallin22
Posts: 23888 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/3/2015 Member: #6096 |
3/7/2016 4:29 PM LAST EDITED: 3/7/2016 4:29 PM
nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:I want you guys to imagine for a second Wroten and Grant playing in the backcourt together. Both are big guards; both are uber athletic; both have the ability to play good defense and get in passing lanes; both can break down a defense and get in the paint; both would push the pace leading to more fast break points and easier buckets. The only negative is that they're not good shooters yet or know the triangle well. The good news is shooting can be improved with mechanics and work. They have the potential to both become decent shooters. I like the prospects of both being really young developing in our system.then I imagine the whole defense packing the paint and daring those two to take long shots Excellent points. This is what makes me potentially so excited about him. I just hope his injury has not diminished his athleticism. I wouldn't think so being that he's only 22 with the healing process. Bottom line is we need guards who are in attack mode, and that's what he does. It would open of the entire offense and lead to much easier shots. |
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anrst
Posts: 22707 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/7/2005 Member: #1054 USA |
3/7/2016 4:31 PM
i saw one single highlight of him making a jump shot ... a hideous looking fall away three.
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
3/7/2016 4:33 PM
SocraticBallin22 wrote:nixluva wrote:fishmike wrote:SocraticBallin22 wrote:I want you guys to imagine for a second Wroten and Grant playing in the backcourt together. Both are big guards; both are uber athletic; both have the ability to play good defense and get in passing lanes; both can break down a defense and get in the paint; both would push the pace leading to more fast break points and easier buckets. The only negative is that they're not good shooters yet or know the triangle well. The good news is shooting can be improved with mechanics and work. They have the potential to both become decent shooters. I like the prospects of both being really young developing in our system.then I imagine the whole defense packing the paint and daring those two to take long shots Agree with both of you guys here. I'm excited about him. We'll see. Hopefully he's been shooting 1000 jumpers a day while he's been off. ¿ △ ?
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
3/7/2016 4:37 PM LAST EDITED: 3/7/2016 4:40 PM
anrst wrote:i saw one single highlight of him making a jump shot ... a hideous looking fall away three. All this team does is shoot mid-range jump shots - maybe it'll be good to add a break down dribble drive guard to that mix? Knicks are dead last in drives to the rim. Wroten helps. His shot is better than Grant's - just inconsistent. Hopefully he can work on his inconsistency. I've definitely seen a game where Wroten hit 5 threes. He won't get bottled up like Grant does - stuck in-between a drive and a shot he doesn't want to take. We've said all year the thing Grant lacks is confidence - Wroten has that otherworldly confidence to his game. It's something I don't know if you can fake or grow. I think some dudes are just born with it. Wroten has a little edge to his game. Anyway, we'll see where it goes, but he passed my eye test multiple times the last few years. We shall see. ¿ △ ?
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martin
Posts: 75978 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
3/7/2016 4:46 PM
callmened wrote:with limited flexibility, the knicks have to think outside the box or take gambles on young players. That includes players like wroten (who im afriad might be damaged goods). Ive been following this kid since he was a jr in HS. he used to be a an even better football player until he tore his ACL (yes the same ACL) and concentrated on basketball. thats why he wasnt high in all the recruiting trails. and now he suffered the same ACL injury last yr. theres no doubt he has physical talent - well at least he did. but this is a gamble - low risk gamble - cuz his career might even be over. who knows but i wouldnt get hopes up just yet. i think it was a smart move to obtain him, rehab him and teach him the triangle (say what you want if you can learn the triangle then youre smarter off for it). wow didn't know that, same ACL on same knee? Yikes Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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