jrodmc wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

dk7th wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:We have enough evidence ( I do anyway) that the players we gave up werent worth losing sleep over. Gallinari is playing really well now but, he has been suffering from one serious injury or another since before he was drafted by the Knicks.

Seeing how our GMs over the last decade (until Phil) f'ed up one draft after another for the most part, even high picks. I have little doubt they would have f'ed up again if they had the opportunity.

It was a wash IMO. Many decisions were made by previous GMs (and by Dolan) draft picks, trades, coaches that underperformed, along with Melo at times. It was a big decision that has failed to this point because of the many decisions that came after the trade, not the trade itself.

your post is a classic case of begging the question. the issue is whether that trade should have ever taken place, not whether the knicks got the better end of the deal.

And your post is a classic case of woulda, coulda, shoulda. It still may be an issue for you but certainly not for me, because ownership and mgmt was proving that they would **** up a ham sandwich. Wasnt until Phil decided to break the cycle of making the playoffs at all costs did the Knicks future change for the better. Melo wasn't a factor either way.

so you are admitting melo as a knick was a huge mistake.

No, you are saying it was a big mistake. I'm saying that there is no evidence that the Knicks would have been better off not making any move at all so its pointless IMO to keep revisiting what is now an old trade.

easy to make this argument since he is still here... were it not for the fact that the knicks have had nothing to show for it over his time here, and there seems to be a pattern of underachievement that has been established at this point, and the common denominator is dolan and melo... and money.

in spite of all this i still hold out the hope that by the end of next season the knicks will be a serious playoff team, albeit with one of two eventualities: melo on a significant minutes restriction or trading him for an upgrade.

maybe in your world, he can play even better too, thereby increasing his trade value. But if his trade value increases, and we get back really great picks or upgraded players or both, then what of your original argument?

my premise is that he will not ask for a trade. if in fact he does ask for a trade, the knicks will certainly win. you do want what's best for the knicks, don't you?