EnySpree wrote:I trust Phil called everyone. He's not asleep at the wheel. Teams just don't want to trade with us. All these trades so far prove that. Garbage

All these trades?? So the TWO trades?? lol

TAB wrote:Kind of hard to make deals when you lead guy says your players suck.

I actually think Knicks players are thought less of because they're more visible and the team loses, so people think the players suck.

Not that many people actually see Tobais Harris play basketball too often, so it just becomes about looking at his stats.

It's a double-edged sword - I think sometimes our players get overrated (Shump, Lin, maybe KP) if they're doing well, but if they struggle or the team struggles, the players get slammed and are totally underrated.

Any other team and people would be talking about how great Lance thomas is and how he'll be a big target this summer in Free Agency. Same with Langston Galloway. Because theyre Knicks, it feels you never see them mentioned.

Not sure that the guys we are linked to in trades are worth players AND and a #1.

WaltLongmire wrote:Have to wonder if the reason Phil is not pulling off a trade is because other teams are looking for a #1 from us.

Not sure that the guys we are linked to in trades are worth players AND and a #1.

That's probably true. But the guys we are linked to in trades are worth way more than any player we have to offer outside of KP and Melo.

I would seriously consider offering a highly protected #1 to get Jennings or Teague. We're going to have to overpay this summer to get a real PG and even then we may not be able to get one. It's the most highly coveted position in the league right now.

CrushAlot wrote:Does Seraphin/O'Quinn move the needle now that Splitter is out for the season?

Oh didn't hear that

EnySpree wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have to wonder if the reason Phil is not pulling off a trade is because other teams are looking for a #1 from us.

Not sure that the guys we are linked to in trades are worth players AND and a #1.

Don't put anything on Phil. Players tried to clown us last off season. Not the teams are trying to clown us during the trade deadline. Fuck them. We might have to build internally

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have to wonder if the reason Phil is not pulling off a trade is because other teams are looking for a #1 from us.

Not sure that the guys we are linked to in trades are worth players AND and a #1.

That's probably true. But the guys we are linked to in trades are worth way more than any player we have to offer outside of KP and Melo.

I would seriously consider offering a highly protected #1 to get Jennings or Teague. We're going to have to overpay this summer to get a real PG and even then we may not be able to get one. It's the most highly coveted position in the league right now.

I'm not a fan of Jennings, and can't imagine Jackson is. Teague would be the guy I would want choosing from these two guys.

The problem is that Jennings could be gone after this year...no? Teague could leave after next year.

"Highly protected #1" is the operative phrase. The history of this teams seems to be that when we give up a #1 pick it usually ends up being a good pick, I think. Would hate for this to happen again.

I would only do top ten protected.

But, yes, I agree that trading a pick is fool hardy. For Teague, maybe. For Jennings? He's a FA this summer. Might as well wait the 30 games. But if we could move Calderon out and bring Jennings in - that's a cap clearing move and might be worth the protected #1.

But by all accounts Skiles likes Jennings and they have the athletes to run there so it could wind up being a good fit. I sort of wonder if Jennings might start over Peyton at the point there.

WaltLongmire wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have to wonder if the reason Phil is not pulling off a trade is because other teams are looking for a #1 from us.

Not sure that the guys we are linked to in trades are worth players AND and a #1.

Don't put anything on Phil. Players tried to clown us last off season. Not the teams are trying to clown us during the trade deadline. Fuck them. We might have to build internally

im glad you are loyal/protective of the knicks but NOBODY is blackballing the knicks. The truth is we have nothing attractive to offer

...And that's exactly why they would be trying to pick up a #1 from us in one of these deals.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Have to wonder if the reason Phil is not pulling off a trade is because other teams are looking for a #1 from us.

Not sure that the guys we are linked to in trades are worth players AND and a #1.

Don't put anything on Phil. Players tried to clown us last off season. Not the teams are trying to clown us during the trade deadline. Fuck them. We might have to build internally

im glad you are loyal/protective of the knicks but NOBODY is blackballing the knicks. The truth is we have nothing attractive to offer

Says you.

Memphis just traded Courtney Lee and got 4 second round picks and PJ Harrison.

Orlando traded Tobias for Jennings and elyosova... like why? Just because? Orlando already has a point guard. Jennings might not resign. If he doesn't how dumb does this trade look? Elyosova is just going to sit on their bench. Payton gets the backdoor treatment too. It's a dumb trade.

so saying the Knicks have no assets is bull****. Teams out there don't know what they are doing. We actually have sometime that knows what they are doing. We'll see how it plays out but if there are no trades then I expect Phil to start to make internal moves and work the free agent market