I go back and forth on this all the time, but I feel trading him now would be a good move for the longterm. If you can get Winslow/Dragic/(throw ins to make salaries work such as Anderson) I think that sort of deal makes so much sense for both sides, and you're not doing Melo wrong because he stayed with you as a free agent, you traded him to a place where he'll be with his buds (Bosh/Wade) and get to play on an EC powerhouse, in a situation where his scoring would actually be a real weapon (playoffs, crunch time, need elite 1 on 1 scoring).

All I think he does now he get you 5-7 more regular season wins, no playoffs likely, but also takes away from development of younger players and alot of capspace. The team scores just fine without Melo. It's not like him being on this team is making us great on defense (no way) or offense (somewhat important, yet still struggle with him to score).

crzymdups wrote:I'd still advocate checking in on Jennings.

I don't think Wroten or Jimmer move the needle much, but I guess a ten day contract for Wroten wouldn't be too bad.

Jennings clearly would bring the most talent but at what cost? Jimmer and Wroten can be added for nothing and could still provide a possible boost in much needed areas. As I said they're low hanging fruit, ready to be plucked with no risk or assets used.

blkexec wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I'd still advocate checking in on Jennings.

I don't think Wroten or Jimmer move the needle much, but I guess a ten day contract for Wroten wouldn't be too bad.

Anybody that can't make a sixers team is a read flag.....

I wouldn't look at it that way. The Sixers were a mess in terms of any clue about what they were looking for in a player. They went thru talent in a careless manner. They really weren't properly developing players. So IMO their management decisions were suspect and a kid like Wroten may have been better if properly developed. A 10 day look see is worth it IMO.

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I'd still advocate checking in on Jennings.

I don't think Wroten or Jimmer move the needle much, but I guess a ten day contract for Wroten wouldn't be too bad.

Jennings clearly would bring the most talent but at what cost? Jimmer and Wroten can be added for nothing and could still provide a possible boost in much needed areas. As I said they're low hanging fruit, ready to be plucked with no risk or assets used.

The question is how to do it.

If you bring him up from Westchester (where he is developing daily) you can't then sit him on the bench DNP. That just messes with his head.

You'd probably want to immediately give him 10+ minutes as PG in the rotation.

And that's tougher now that Grant (finally) had a good game.

Couldn't pay me enough money for the kind of responsibility that Fisher and Jackson have. Brutal . . .

newyorker4ever wrote:Could you imagine if we bring in Jimmer and he finally turns into what most thought he'd be coming out of the draft?? That would be a huge hit for us and would save us a ton of money to spend on other pieces instead of spending it on a M.Conley or B.Jennings or any of the other bigger name PG's out there. But he needs to be given a real chance if we bring him up cause these kids need time to adjust and get some confidence.

Best hope (somewhat reasonable . . .) is that Fredette is one of those players (of which there are a LOT in the NBA . . .) who hasn't had a chance in a system that he's a fit for.

Good thing about being an organization that runs the Triangle is that you're not competing with too many other teams for Triangle talent.

The one team closest to us is San Antonio.

And Popovich had very good things to say about Fredette when he tried him out -- there just wasn't room for him there.

So Fredette as a solution (play-wise, money-wise, age-wise) is a reasonable possibility.

Now . . . how do you actually do it (?)

Nalod wrote:They practice in the same facility as the knicks. They can see what he is up to. He is tearing up the Dleague and he need not do this at the NBA level to be a success.

My guess is quickness. NBA dudes are elite with size and quick. Is it attitude? We have a story with an unsubstantiated assistant coach saying the kid is arrogant.
Might say that about a lot of players. It questions him being able to be coached.

Having watched Jimmer it looks like he's bought in and is playing well. He's had a very nice run in the system to get a good feel of his role. How he can translate his play at the NBA level is yet to be determined but he looks like he should be able to contribute at the NBA level. IMO it can't hurt to get another capable guard on this roster. Especially one that can score as he can. This is a pressing need for this team.

nixluva wrote:

Nalod wrote:They practice in the same facility as the knicks. They can see what he is up to. He is tearing up the Dleague and he need not do this at the NBA level to be a success.

My guess is quickness. NBA dudes are elite with size and quick. Is it attitude? We have a story with an unsubstantiated assistant coach saying the kid is arrogant.
Might say that about a lot of players. It questions him being able to be coached.

Having watched Jimmer it looks like he's bought in and is playing well. He's had a very nice run in the system to get a good feel of his role. How he can translate his play at the NBA level is yet to be determined but he looks like he should be able to contribute at the NBA level. IMO it can't hurt to get another capable guard on this roster. Especially one that can score as he can. This is a pressing need for this team.

how is his passing?

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Nalod wrote:They practice in the same facility as the knicks. They can see what he is up to. He is tearing up the Dleague and he need not do this at the NBA level to be a success.

My guess is quickness. NBA dudes are elite with size and quick. Is it attitude? We have a story with an unsubstantiated assistant coach saying the kid is arrogant.
Might say that about a lot of players. It questions him being able to be coached.

Having watched Jimmer it looks like he's bought in and is playing well. He's had a very nice run in the system to get a good feel of his role. How he can translate his play at the NBA level is yet to be determined but he looks like he should be able to contribute at the NBA level. IMO it can't hurt to get another capable guard on this roster. Especially one that can score as he can. This is a pressing need for this team.

how is his passing?

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA 4h4 hours ago
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Word is Tony Wroten may have better opportunities than the Knicks.. He has teams he is weighing.