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crzymdups
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7/21/2015  4:26 PM
mreinman wrote:
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dk7th wrote:

i think it accounts for what you are asking, since it is defined as "an estimate of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor."

I don't think there is any stat in the NBA that accounts for the "hockey assist" aka the pass that leads to the pass that leads to the bucket... I think it'd be an interesting stat and I'm pretty sure no NBA stat accounts for it. A lot of post players have to pass out and the guy they pass out to has a good angle to get an assist or find an open man. Shaq and Ewing and Duncan would get a ton of these kinds of assists.

Anyway, just a thought. I think what you are posting is quite interesting.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

Nice, thanks! - here's just the Knicks for the past two seasons. Looks like they didn't track it before then, or it's not available at least.

2014-15
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

2013-14
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

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7/21/2015  4:28 PM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
dk7th wrote:

i think it accounts for what you are asking, since it is defined as "an estimate of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor."

I don't think there is any stat in the NBA that accounts for the "hockey assist" aka the pass that leads to the pass that leads to the bucket... I think it'd be an interesting stat and I'm pretty sure no NBA stat accounts for it. A lot of post players have to pass out and the guy they pass out to has a good angle to get an assist or find an open man. Shaq and Ewing and Duncan would get a ton of these kinds of assists.

Anyway, just a thought. I think what you are posting is quite interesting.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

Nice, thanks! - here's just the Knicks for the past two seasons. Looks like they didn't track it before then, or it's not available at least.

2014-15
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

2013-14
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

yeah so as you can see, the notion that he gets all these hockey assists are way overblown.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/21/2015  4:30 PM
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
dk7th wrote:

i think it accounts for what you are asking, since it is defined as "an estimate of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor."

I don't think there is any stat in the NBA that accounts for the "hockey assist" aka the pass that leads to the pass that leads to the bucket... I think it'd be an interesting stat and I'm pretty sure no NBA stat accounts for it. A lot of post players have to pass out and the guy they pass out to has a good angle to get an assist or find an open man. Shaq and Ewing and Duncan would get a ton of these kinds of assists.

Anyway, just a thought. I think what you are posting is quite interesting.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

Nice, thanks! - here's just the Knicks for the past two seasons. Looks like they didn't track it before then, or it's not available at least.

2014-15
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

2013-14
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

yeah so as you can see, the notion that he gets all these hockey assists are way overblown.

I would've liked to see the 2012-3 stats - I bet he had more that season and I bet there is correlation between the Knicks winning % and how much Me7o is passing.

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7/21/2015  4:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
dk7th wrote:

i think it accounts for what you are asking, since it is defined as "an estimate of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor."

I don't think there is any stat in the NBA that accounts for the "hockey assist" aka the pass that leads to the pass that leads to the bucket... I think it'd be an interesting stat and I'm pretty sure no NBA stat accounts for it. A lot of post players have to pass out and the guy they pass out to has a good angle to get an assist or find an open man. Shaq and Ewing and Duncan would get a ton of these kinds of assists.

Anyway, just a thought. I think what you are posting is quite interesting.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

Nice, thanks! - here's just the Knicks for the past two seasons. Looks like they didn't track it before then, or it's not available at least.

2014-15
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

2013-14
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

yeah so as you can see, the notion that he gets all these hockey assists are way overblown.

I would've liked to see the 2012-3 stats - I bet he had more that season and I bet there is correlation between the Knicks winning % and how much Me7o is passing.

nah ... he was a TERRIBLE passer that year. He just scored efficiently and often.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
crzymdups
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7/21/2015  4:33 PM
This article about Melo's passing is pretty interesting. I think it was, is, and will continue to be a big factor in the team's success.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1923520-is-carmelo-anthonys-passing-the-key-to-new-york-knicks-sustained-success

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7/21/2015  4:36 PM
crzymdups wrote:This article about Melo's passing is pretty interesting. I think it was, is, and will continue to be a big factor in the team's success.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1923520-is-carmelo-anthonys-passing-the-key-to-new-york-knicks-sustained-success

I have always said that Me7o'$ passing is key. I have followed this extremely closely and unfortunately, I usually end up quite nauseous.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/21/2015  8:33 PM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
dk7th wrote:

i think it accounts for what you are asking, since it is defined as "an estimate of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor."

I don't think there is any stat in the NBA that accounts for the "hockey assist" aka the pass that leads to the pass that leads to the bucket... I think it'd be an interesting stat and I'm pretty sure no NBA stat accounts for it. A lot of post players have to pass out and the guy they pass out to has a good angle to get an assist or find an open man. Shaq and Ewing and Duncan would get a ton of these kinds of assists.

Anyway, just a thought. I think what you are posting is quite interesting.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

Nice, thanks! - here's just the Knicks for the past two seasons. Looks like they didn't track it before then, or it's not available at least.

2014-15
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

2013-14
http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/passing/?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*NYK&Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=AST_SEC&dir=1

yeah so as you can see, the notion that he gets all these hockey assists are way overblown.

I would've liked to see the 2012-3 stats - I bet he had more that season and I bet there is correlation between the Knicks winning % and how much Me7o is passing.


Maybe microscopically more but it's rare for an NBA player to have more than 1 hockey assist again. Like Mreinman said, it's overblown.
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