StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

holfresh wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Everyone think on this thought. A 7 foot 3 player did this:

This isn't a guard or wing player....a 7 foot 3 player with this skill, instinct, IQ, and athleticism anticipated and played the passing lane and flushed it like it was a breakfast turd.

Man I shiver at the thought of his ceiling once this guy gets introduced to Shake Shak...

When I saw that I was thinkin the smae thing!!! Seven Mutherphuching Three!!!!

No Shwan Bradley comps here, this kid is skilled!!!! We could pass on him as most have said, his upside is crazy and if we passed and he hits his potential we have a bonafide great player!!

Im sure Mudiay will be a very good player as well might be rookie of the year. Starphuchers want it all now. Me, Im really more than ok with this pick!! It was not the safe pick, it could define the franchise for 10+ years!!

7'3 skilled athletic kids don't come around very often. I can't even compare him to anyone. Sampson? Durant? Dirk? He has a bigger frame than Durant and looks more athletic than Dirk was. Sampson had knee trouble as they tried him to hold the post and he was too skinny and Narrow.

So why isn't a 19 year old PG with vision considered a player for the next 10 years and beyond but a 7'3" considered a 10 year player..Your age and career time clock don't start ticking once you figure out the game..So now a player has a knock against him for being ready for the league at age 19..LeBron and Magic was ready for the league at a young age, didn't turn out too bad..

I don't see the point in a 7'3" jump shooter who can't rebound..If u have a post game and u owned the boards couple with range then we are talking..Ewing, Dream, inside players all had inside moves at that age..They built with on that later..Hoping to put on weight in order to build strength is a plan?

Point guards are supposed to know how to shoot.

Tony Parker, Derek Rose, Magic Johnson, John Wall, Jimmy Butler, Charles Oakley, Patrick Ewing, Hakeem, all learned to shoot outside in the NBA

Show me the big man who learned the post and improved his rebounding in the NBA..

Didn't Mudiay average 50% Free Throws so far in 4 games? Small sample size I know(Bonn) but I think it's a pre-requisite for a Point Guard to know how to shoot free throws.

Yet there are articles saying he is the best/most impressive player in the summer league..

anthony randolph averaged like 20 points about 5 years back. Even nate robinson lit up the SL. The point is you cant just look at a few games in the summer league and decalre them a franchise player

You have missed the point of my entire discussion..First off, I'm am expressing my sentiment on the kid being that none of us have seen him..Second, the idea that Porzinger was the best option at the 4 th is ridiculous..Three, Denver is impressed enough to now want to trade their entire team with a few holdovers..

This entire discussion I never mentioned stats...Metric can't explain what we are seeing..It's summer league but the kid is playing the best ball of all and he could have been our pick..

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

Did you miss my barage of threads the day of the draft..
I'll summarize..I don't see the point of a 7 foot 3 pt jumper shooter who can't rebound..He doesn't have the strength to play the post at this level..

you can't see the big potential?

Obviously if you judge them as of today, there were a number of better options.

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

Did you miss my barage of threads the day of the draft..
I'll summarize..I don't see the point of a 7 foot 3 pt jumper shooter who can't rebound..He doesn't have the strength to play the post at this level..

you can't see the big potential?

Obviously if you judge them as of today, there were a number of better options.

Let's look at this realistically..You have seen the wear and tear on Melo playing PF..LeBron talking about he doesn't want to play PF because it wears him down and he gets beaten up..Shaq used to complain about the beat down he experienced on the interior..

You want me to believe a guy who can barely remain standing after 20 mins of summer league basketball is now going to bulk up and play the post at the next level??..Ok spanky..

spanky?

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

Did you miss my barage of threads the day of the draft..
I'll summarize..I don't see the point of a 7 foot 3 pt jumper shooter who can't rebound..He doesn't have the strength to play the post at this level..

you can't see the big potential?

Obviously if you judge them as of today, there were a number of better options.

Let's look at this realistically..You have seen the wear and tear on Melo playing PF..LeBron talking about he doesn't want to play PF because it wears him down and he gets beaten up..Shaq used to complain about the beat down he experienced on the interior..

You want me to believe a guy who can barely remain standing after 20 mins of summer league basketball is now going to bulk up and play the post at the next level??..Ok spanky..

spanky?

U almost have to be a Thug to play interior basketball in the NBA..Have u seen Admunson in action??..It's a war..This guy is soft as a marshmallow..

3 rebounds a game..think about that for a second..

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

Did you miss my barage of threads the day of the draft..
I'll summarize..I don't see the point of a 7 foot 3 pt jumper shooter who can't rebound..He doesn't have the strength to play the post at this level..

you can't see the big potential?

Obviously if you judge them as of today, there were a number of better options.

Let's look at this realistically..You have seen the wear and tear on Melo playing PF..LeBron talking about he doesn't want to play PF because it wears him down and he gets beaten up..Shaq used to complain about the beat down he experienced on the interior..

You want me to believe a guy who can barely remain standing after 20 mins of summer league basketball is now going to bulk up and play the post at the next level??..Ok spanky..

spanky?

U almost have to be a Thug to play interior basketball in the NBA..Have u seen Admunson in action??..It's a war..This guy is soft as a marshmallow..

3 rebounds a game..think about that for a second..

you seem to intentionally see the facts and state the opposite.

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

Did you miss my barage of threads the day of the draft..
I'll summarize..I don't see the point of a 7 foot 3 pt jumper shooter who can't rebound..He doesn't have the strength to play the post at this level..

you can't see the big potential?

Obviously if you judge them as of today, there were a number of better options.

Let's look at this realistically..You have seen the wear and tear on Melo playing PF..LeBron talking about he doesn't want to play PF because it wears him down and he gets beaten up..Shaq used to complain about the beat down he experienced on the interior..

You want me to believe a guy who can barely remain standing after 20 mins of summer league basketball is now going to bulk up and play the post at the next level??..Ok spanky..

spanky?

U almost have to be a Thug to play interior basketball in the NBA..Have u seen Admunson in action??..It's a war..This guy is soft as a marshmallow..

3 rebounds a game..think about that for a second..

you seem to intentionally see the facts and state the opposite.

The convention is to provide facts when u counter..you have any examples riding with that statement?

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

mreinman wrote:

holfresh wrote:

blkexec wrote:Mudiay is not the first player or last player that will shine from Zinger and Grant's draft class. I'm not understanding the motivation with this thread. We can't have a draft selection for every single player in each draft. So there will be players to slip through the cracks. You cant control what not in your control. It's ok to be a fan of other players.....But there's something about going over board over something that doesn't belong to you. Thats when it becomes an issue.....

So the plan is stick you head in the sand, ignore and don't discuss other options than the ones we made??

you are not happy with the KP pick?

Did you miss my barage of threads the day of the draft..
I'll summarize..I don't see the point of a 7 foot 3 pt jumper shooter who can't rebound..He doesn't have the strength to play the post at this level..

you can't see the big potential?

Obviously if you judge them as of today, there were a number of better options.

Let's look at this realistically..You have seen the wear and tear on Melo playing PF..LeBron talking about he doesn't want to play PF because it wears him down and he gets beaten up..Shaq used to complain about the beat down he experienced on the interior..

You want me to believe a guy who can barely remain standing after 20 mins of summer league basketball is now going to bulk up and play the post at the next level??..Ok spanky..

spanky?

U almost have to be a Thug to play interior basketball in the NBA..Have u seen Admunson in action??..It's a war..This guy is soft as a marshmallow..

3 rebounds a game..think about that for a second..

Soft? The kid never avoids contact and so far every game battles for rebounds and on defense. He did a good job on okafor. He just needs to get stronger and he will

It's not avoiding contact..it's being able to take contact and standing your ground..

Which is exactly what he is trying to do but he is lacking the strength to do so.