CrushAlot wrote:^^^I think once he left the meeting (if he was offered less than the max) he was looking for a place where he was wanted and appreciated. Also, the market exploded the next morning so if he was offered less then he knew he could get more and might have been offended or at least not down with building a roster as opposed to joining one that had more upside. The Knicks needed to DeMarre Carroll him.

He said he wanted to go to a team where he was the final piece and that was ready to win. This was just before free agency. After signing with the Bucks his agent said we offered the max and also said it came down to roster. I don't know why so many of you want to believe that Phil bungled this when the truth is he just chose the best team.

smackeddog wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:^^^I think once he left the meeting (if he was offered less than the max) he was looking for a place where he was wanted and appreciated. Also, the market exploded the next morning so if he was offered less then he knew he could get more and might have been offended or at least not down with building a roster as opposed to joining one that had more upside. The Knicks needed to DeMarre Carroll him.

He said he wanted to go to a team where he was the final piece and that was ready to win. This was just before free agency. After signing with the Bucks his agent said we offered the max and also said it came down to roster. I don't know why so many of you want to believe that Phil bungled this when the truth is he just chose the best team.

smackeddog wrote:So would people rather have Lopez at $11 to $12mil and another player, or Deandre Jordan at $20mil?

I think folk have to weigh out DeAndre Jordan pre Doc Rivers and essentially Thib's defensive system versus his last couple of years.

Some fans and front office might fear how Jordan reacts outside of that Clippers/River environment.

Knicks don't just need talent, but also in volume. Spreading the cap space out is better for the roster and better for future flexibility.

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holfresh wrote:After months of speculation of possibly obtaining the number one pick and cap space to sign the best free agents who wants to play in NY..Back to reality, eh Knick fans...

Most of the Knick fan base is completely unrealistic, I'm a little surprised we didn't get Monroe though. He was the kind of 3rd tier max player I expected. I'm way more pissed about winning those games and missing on Towns.

Going on that two game win spree reminded me of this:

gunsnewing wrote:Well at least we go back to being mediocre I guess

Was there really anyway we would exceed mediocrity though?

Bonn1997 wrote:13 mil is a lot if that's the price but Lopez is a very good player and I know the market is high and we have to overpay. Lopez is still in his mid 20s too. If it's for 13 mil per, I'd give the signing a B or B+. If it's for less, a higher grade. Lopez's rebounding is lower than Tyson's but his game does remind me of Tyson's. Afflalo is adequate but I'd rather have the 8 mil available for other transactions.

Both players are solid NBA starters, if we had one more starting quality forward on the roster we would be a playoff team. We don't have anyone to defend the 3 or 4

smackeddog wrote:The thing I don't get with Robin Lopez, is if he's Brooks identical twin, why doesn't he have the same foot issues? Shouldn't they be the same structurally?

No. Robin is more athletic than Brook and of course Brook is better offensively. It's not that odd for twins to actually be different in certain ways. You think about why one twin is more talented in some ways than the other sometimes.

So identical twins are kind of like two pies made from the same recipe. They are more similar than pies made from different recipes, say apple and blueberry. But if you look closely, they are still not exactly the same. They will always have some physical differences due to differences in their environment.

What are some examples of these differences?

Some identical twins can have different heights and weights. This is because height and weight are controlled by what you eat as well your DNA.

Differences in diet can start earlier than you might imagine. When the twins are growing inside the uterus, there can be differences in how well they connect to the placenta. This can mean one twin starts getting more to eat even before they are born!

Another physical difference between identical twins is their fingerprints. The fingerprints of identical twins do look more similar than the fingerprints of non-twins. This is because your fingerprints are partially controlled by your genes.

But they are not exactly the same. They have differences that a fingerprint expert can use to tell them apart. This is because environmental differences like how the hand of the fetus touches the amniotic sac also affects fingerprints.

Recently scientists have found a new type of difference between identical twins. Everyone has marks in their DNA that help control which parts of your DNA get used where (click here to learn more about these marks).

Scientists have shown that identical twins have very similar marks when they are born. But, as they age, the marks in their DNA become more and more different. So even though identical twins have the same DNA, they are using it in different ways.

Even if you aren't an identical twin, you can still see the impact of the environment in your own face. Both the right and left side of your face were made using the same DNA. But I'll bet they aren't perfect mirror images of each other! For example, my left ear is a little lower than the other, and my nose is not perfectly straight. Everyone has small differences like these.