mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:
I did not bump this thread.

But if you post 20 threads saying that Robin Lopez is not a good player, and people prove you wrong and just plain don't agree, and you post another 20 stating it again. That just really pisses me off.

KP should shoot only from spot x or spot x, repeat 1000 times, most argue and state how silly, 100 more threads ...

He's here to talk Knicks basketball and basketball in general. He makes a lot of observations - as Fish said - based on what he actually *SEES*, which is interesting. He has a certain POV - sometimes he's dead on, sometimes he's way off.

I can't claim to be 100% accurate and neither can you. We're just here to talk basketball. I think this place would lose a lot if it lost Briggs' posts - the right ones and the wrong ones.

How do you know if he is dead on if he is so often way off? If I pushed 2500 players and I was dead on about 4, was I really dead on?

And, he is not just any poster, he is supposedly the UK draft guru (I am just any poster and I know that it all I am), so his prediction should be held up to the microscope just like we would for other supposed experts, no? He does not act like just another fan, he acts like he is giving a history/facts lecture.

And, my issue with his mainly is, if you say x and say it loudly and then x is disputed with data, you can't just ignore it and just move on to creating 10 more threads. He acts as if he does not need to defend his position because it is unimaginable that he is wrong and that he is above conversing with us peasants and IMHO, us peasants all look like we understand the game a lot better than he does. Maybe he understood the game back in the 70's. Not now from what I see.

If he respected other posters than he would deserve more respect. You and fish have an old soft spot for him from back in the day, but some of us just view him for what he is currently posting and to me, it aint a pretty picture.

Folks are far more worried about being right that talking hoops. Part of the reason some of the oldies have gone and the ones that have stayed arent warm and fuzzy.

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:
I did not bump this thread.

But if you post 20 threads saying that Robin Lopez is not a good player, and people prove you wrong and just plain don't agree, and you post another 20 stating it again. That just really pisses me off.

KP should shoot only from spot x or spot x, repeat 1000 times, most argue and state how silly, 100 more threads ...

He's here to talk Knicks basketball and basketball in general. He makes a lot of observations - as Fish said - based on what he actually *SEES*, which is interesting. He has a certain POV - sometimes he's dead on, sometimes he's way off.

I can't claim to be 100% accurate and neither can you. We're just here to talk basketball. I think this place would lose a lot if it lost Briggs' posts - the right ones and the wrong ones.

How do you know if he is dead on if he is so often way off? If I pushed 2500 players and I was dead on about 4, was I really dead on?

And, he is not just any poster, he is supposedly the UK draft guru (I am just any poster and I know that it all I am), so his prediction should be held up to the microscope just like we would for other supposed experts, no? He does not act like just another fan, he acts like he is giving a history/facts lecture.

And, my issue with his mainly is, if you say x and say it loudly and then x is disputed with data, you can't just ignore it and just move on to creating 10 more threads. He acts as if he does not need to defend his position because it is unimaginable that he is wrong and that he is above conversing with us peasants and IMHO, us peasants all look like we understand the game a lot better than he does. Maybe he understood the game back in the 70's. Not now from what I see.

If he respected other posters than he would deserve more respect. You and fish have an old soft spot for him from back in the day, but some of us just view him for what he is currently posting and to me, it aint a pretty picture.

Briggs has been posting here since 2002. I've been here since 2004 or so. I dunno man, I've certainly had my share of arguments with him - we went to war on Channing Frye vs Andrew Bynum in the 2005 draft... I respect his opinions, even though we often disagree on the way to draft or build basketball teams. He was right about Nate Robinson and David Lee back in those days. It's just one man's opinions. I'd say Briggs is probably more accurate in the draft than Chad Ford. And really, who cares? We're just talking about bball. Don't take it personally. There's no scoreboard on here.

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:
I did not bump this thread.

But if you post 20 threads saying that Robin Lopez is not a good player, and people prove you wrong and just plain don't agree, and you post another 20 stating it again. That just really pisses me off.

KP should shoot only from spot x or spot x, repeat 1000 times, most argue and state how silly, 100 more threads ...

He's here to talk Knicks basketball and basketball in general. He makes a lot of observations - as Fish said - based on what he actually *SEES*, which is interesting. He has a certain POV - sometimes he's dead on, sometimes he's way off.

I can't claim to be 100% accurate and neither can you. We're just here to talk basketball. I think this place would lose a lot if it lost Briggs' posts - the right ones and the wrong ones.

How do you know if he is dead on if he is so often way off? If I pushed 2500 players and I was dead on about 4, was I really dead on?

And, he is not just any poster, he is supposedly the UK draft guru (I am just any poster and I know that it all I am), so his prediction should be held up to the microscope just like we would for other supposed experts, no? He does not act like just another fan, he acts like he is giving a history/facts lecture.

And, my issue with his mainly is, if you say x and say it loudly and then x is disputed with data, you can't just ignore it and just move on to creating 10 more threads. He acts as if he does not need to defend his position because it is unimaginable that he is wrong and that he is above conversing with us peasants and IMHO, us peasants all look like we understand the game a lot better than he does. Maybe he understood the game back in the 70's. Not now from what I see.

If he respected other posters than he would deserve more respect. You and fish have an old soft spot for him from back in the day, but some of us just view him for what he is currently posting and to me, it aint a pretty picture.

Briggs has been posting here since 2002. I've been here since 2004 or so. I dunno man, I've certainly had my share of arguments with him - we went to war on Channing Frye vs Andrew Bynum in the 2005 draft... I respect his opinions, even though we often disagree on the way to draft or build basketball teams. He was right about Nate Robinson and David Lee back in those days. It's just one man's opinions. I'd say Briggs is probably more accurate in the draft than Chad Ford. And really, who cares? We're just talking about bball. Don't take it personally. There's no scoreboard on here.

Oh there is indeed... there is indeed

well, i know there *IS*... but I wish there weren't.

hey, I'll admit it - I was excited about trading Nene and Camby for McDyess at first. Now I look back on it as the move the ruined the Knicks for a solid decade.

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:
I did not bump this thread.

But if you post 20 threads saying that Robin Lopez is not a good player, and people prove you wrong and just plain don't agree, and you post another 20 stating it again. That just really pisses me off.

KP should shoot only from spot x or spot x, repeat 1000 times, most argue and state how silly, 100 more threads ...

He's here to talk Knicks basketball and basketball in general. He makes a lot of observations - as Fish said - based on what he actually *SEES*, which is interesting. He has a certain POV - sometimes he's dead on, sometimes he's way off.

I can't claim to be 100% accurate and neither can you. We're just here to talk basketball. I think this place would lose a lot if it lost Briggs' posts - the right ones and the wrong ones.

How do you know if he is dead on if he is so often way off? If I pushed 2500 players and I was dead on about 4, was I really dead on?

And, he is not just any poster, he is supposedly the UK draft guru (I am just any poster and I know that it all I am), so his prediction should be held up to the microscope just like we would for other supposed experts, no? He does not act like just another fan, he acts like he is giving a history/facts lecture.

And, my issue with his mainly is, if you say x and say it loudly and then x is disputed with data, you can't just ignore it and just move on to creating 10 more threads. He acts as if he does not need to defend his position because it is unimaginable that he is wrong and that he is above conversing with us peasants and IMHO, us peasants all look like we understand the game a lot better than he does. Maybe he understood the game back in the 70's. Not now from what I see.

If he respected other posters than he would deserve more respect. You and fish have an old soft spot for him from back in the day, but some of us just view him for what he is currently posting and to me, it aint a pretty picture.

Briggs has been posting here since 2002. I've been here since 2004 or so. I dunno man, I've certainly had my share of arguments with him - we went to war on Channing Frye vs Andrew Bynum in the 2005 draft... I respect his opinions, even though we often disagree on the way to draft or build basketball teams. He was right about Nate Robinson and David Lee back in those days. It's just one man's opinions. I'd say Briggs is probably more accurate in the draft than Chad Ford. And really, who cares? We're just talking about bball. Don't take it personally. There's no scoreboard on here.

Oh there is indeed... there is indeed

well, i know there *IS*... but I wish there weren't.

hey, I'll admit it - I was excited about trading Nene and Camby for McDyess at first. Now I look back on it as the move the ruined the Knicks for a solid decade.

I had no problem with that deal.. we werent rebuilding, we had Houston and Spree playing great ball, and a fortune invested in role players. Getting a 20/8 frontcourt player to go with Houston/Spree made sense. It was a bad gamble that didnt work out and when McDyess went down we should have firesaled, but its the Knicks...

Well, we did give away Sprewell for Keith Van Horn. One of the times I wish Isiah were actually brought in a few months earlier. I don't think he ever would've shipped Spree - I think he would've talked Dolan out of it.

Steph and Spree would've been a lot of fun, at the least.

Ah well.

But yeah, McDyess seemed like a revelation. I was actually at the pre-season game where we went down. For some reason Don Chaney had him playing 42 freaking minutes in the third pre-season game. Ugh, what a mess.

CrushAlot wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

blkexec wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think there is a 90% chance that we draft WCS with a pick somewhere from 4-7 but probably 4.

Ill give a 7 % chance to Frank Kaminsky with a pick from 4-7

2% chance that its Porzingis

and 1% to Winslow

I dont think that Mudiay or Hezonga have any chance to be Knicks

The first 3 guys taken are the names that are out there with no change.

We will buy a pick in late 40's and take an obscure name or one of the Harrison's

oh sh1t!!!!!

10 thousand similar posts that are completely wrong. Great ... 7 out of 10k he makes a decent pick.

Ain't nothing wrong with accountability. You create a billion posts ... man up to them.

dude, you're obsessed. briggs is a good poster.

I have a lot of respect for Briggs and his draft insight. In addition to being a good poster, I think he is the only guy here that has offered and bought tickets for anyone on the board that could attend a game a few years back. I know some guys took him up on his offer.

Briggs definitely makes this place tick. He's great at starting discussions, then disappearing (like the instigator in HS)....waiting to start the next discussion, before the first one even finished.

I bumped this thread in search of finding my own thread on KP, and thought this was interesting. It reminded me how everybody tried to give their guarantee, and for the most part, majority was wrong.

But nobody knows the future....it's just great conversation to pass time, amoungst fellow knick fans....not even the great Briggs himself can bat 100%. But whats interesting, the 2% chance he posted about the knicks selecting KP, might have been legit at the time, since WCS was the main target before the reports came out about his foot.