BRIGGS wrote:It's a workout in front of the entire nba and he should've been sitting his pants and he went out and probably had the best individual workout any one has seen this pre draft. All of that pressure and kid aces it you think he is going 1-4 against Wisconsin? Or more like 17 points 8 rebounds 6 blocks.

whatever he did... it's not the first mindblowing workout someone has had...

i dunno.. it's not so much a euro thing than a soft 7fters who migrate to 3p land to generate offense... danny ferry, sam perkins, bargnani... the list is a lot longer than that.. and if you can count on someone busting it's a 7fter who's allergic to the paint...

this is the easiest bust call if this guy goes anywhere in the lottery...

this whole thing makes me nervous... i can live with mudiay altho i wouldn't be entirely happy... porzingis and lyles i would not be able to stand to watch the impending disaster...

blkexec wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:It's a workout in front of the entire nba and he should've been sitting his pants and he went out and probably had the best individual workout any one has seen this pre draft. All of that pressure and kid aces it you think he is going 1-4 against Wisconsin? Or more like 17 points 8 rebounds 6 blocks.

whatever he did... it's not the first mindblowing workout someone has had...

i dunno.. it's not so much a euro thing than a soft 7fters who migrate to 3p land to generate offense... danny ferry, sam perkins, bargnani... the list is a lot longer than that.. and if you can count on someone busting it's a 7fter who's allergic to the paint...

this is the easiest bust call if this guy goes anywhere in the lottery...

I was high on this dude after the work out video......but when you watch some real games....he has bust written all over him.

The knicks are hyping him up to increase his value.....same with the sixers......everybody wants the team ahead of him to draft him. Just like we are saying LA and the sixers control the draft.....teams 5 and down are saying that about us.

I think it comes down to Mudiay winslow stein and maybe kaminsky

So your not fallin for The Banana In The Tailpipe? Euro jump shooting bigs are a dime a dozen but is KrisP the chosen one to finally break thru and claim the Dirk throne? It'll be years before we know. It may be worth the risk for some franchise but not sure about NY.

you have the houston/mills camp the dolan yes-men... you have phils guys in clarence gaines and fisher... and you have leftovers from the grunwald era like warkentien and his analytics guy mike smith...

i kinda like phil but i thought his draft moves so far were a disaster... which makes me nervous about this one... for everyone's sake i just hope he makes the right one...

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

FistOfOakley wrote:what makes me nervous is that this is phil's first draft with the hype machine on overdrive.... and he could get caught up in that especially if his scouts are all raving about him...

this whole thing makes me nervous... i can live with mudiay altho i wouldn't be entirely happy... porzingis and lyles i would not be able to stand to watch the impending disaster...

Some one behind us is pimping this guys value..Phil is a rook and could get caught up in this..He has been taken around the block a few times already..Press clippings saying the two teams just above us loves and raves about this kid..Watch Phil feels like he is the smartest guy in the room when he picks him 4th...Dudes behind us are just laying in the weeds waiting for Mudiay, Winslow and WCS to fall to them...

Phil's not stupid and he's seen and been part of many drafts over the years. Also his staff has a former exec of the year winner in Mark Warkentien. They're advising him so he's not gonna go in with no help. We need to stop dissing our own team. They have a lot of experienced talent evaluation on staff and a former GM. They are not amateurs.

History doesn't support your argument..

How about we give it more than the last season? Phil asked Warkentien to stay. Warkentien was going to leave but Phil recognized his value as an Exec of the year winning GM and one of the early adopters of having Analytics guys in house.

They weren't going all in last year. They knew this summer was the real opp to makes big upgrades. Phil did the right thing going with a near total rebuild and this summer is huge. They've been preparing for this summer for over a year. I think they have a pretty clear plan for how they want to build the team.

H1AND1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just saw on knicksonline that Chad Ford said Kristaps is the best international prospect since Dirk.

Chad Ford gets boned up over every single 7ft euro prospect that declares for the draft year in and year out. Just saying. He's a journalist and an insider, not a scout nor does he have any professional experience evaluating talent besides his access which BTW stems from a personal website he built back in the late 90's that ESPN bought (sportsline? Was it called? I forget but it became ESPN insider). All I'm saying is the guys opinion is mostly meaningless

It's called public relations. Agents use this time to do whatever they can to increase stock value. Do we know how much Chad Ford was paid to make that statement? How come he's the only one, with so many NBA scouts and reporters out there. Gotta be careful with what people say, and you also have to do the eye test.

I remember people were saying Lebron just dominating because he's the biggest player in HS. So instead of believing it, I started watching some of the HS games. And I immediately said, if he's a team player, with high IQ as a passer, someone who can handle the rock and see the floor....and unselfish at a young age.....I knew he would be a star in the league.

I see Mudiay also having high IQ as a PG who sees the entire floor. And like Lebron, he has the physical tools to take over games. Like Lebron, his jumper is in question. But thats normal. You can't start life being good at every single aspect of the game. I don't think thats ever happened.

H1AND1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just saw on knicksonline that Chad Ford said Kristaps is the best international prospect since Dirk.

Chad Ford gets boned up over every single 7ft euro prospect that declares for the draft year in and year out. Just saying. He's a journalist and an insider, not a scout nor does he have any professional experience evaluating talent besides his access which BTW stems from a personal website he built back in the late 90's that ESPN bought (sportsline? Was it called? I forget but it became ESPN insider). All I'm saying is the guys opinion is mostly meaningless

blkexec wrote:

H1AND1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:Just saw on knicksonline that Chad Ford said Kristaps is the best international prospect since Dirk.

Chad Ford gets boned up over every single 7ft euro prospect that declares for the draft year in and year out. Just saying. He's a journalist and an insider, not a scout nor does he have any professional experience evaluating talent besides his access which BTW stems from a personal website he built back in the late 90's that ESPN bought (sportsline? Was it called? I forget but it became ESPN insider). All I'm saying is the guys opinion is mostly meaningless

It's called public relations. Agents use this time to do whatever they can to increase stock value. Do we know how much Chad Ford was paid to make that statement? How come he's the only one, with so many NBA scouts and reporters out there. Gotta be careful with what people say, and you also have to do the eye test.

I remember people were saying Lebron just dominating because he's the biggest player in HS. So instead of believing it, I started watching some of the HS games. And I immediately said, if he's a team player, with high IQ as a passer, someone who can handle the rock and see the floor....and unselfish at a young age.....I knew he would be a star in the league.

I see Mudiay also having high IQ as a PG who sees the entire floor. And like Lebron, he has the physical tools to take over games. Like Lebron, his jumper is in question. But thats normal. You can't start life being good at every single aspect of the game. I don't think thats ever happened.

Chad might've been paid. His credibility isn't the highest right now. But he isn't the only one who has ravef about KristP. The fact that DtaftX bumped him to three days a lot.