nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think in terms of the draft i'd go after Towns. I think he would help to form a core that can defend the way we need and also be effective in the half court offensively. With Towns he may not be dominant offensively right out of the box, but I know he can defend at a high level right off the bat.

I'm back to my original position on the draft. No need to mess around if we get that #1 pick take Towns. After that OK4 etc. I just think it would set up the team in the right way defensively, which is a priority IMO and he still has enough skills on offense and it seems Phil also feels that way.

- Phil said he "knows" whom he wants to draft. "We want a player that has multiple skills." He also mentioned "We have zero big men" under contract next year. Asked if he'd prefer a big man who can pass and score or one who can defend, he didn't even wait a millisecond: "Defender." This led to an elaboration on why he traded Tyson Chandler, namely Tyson's injuries last year and the fact that he's in his thirties. But he did cite Chandler as the type of big man he wants to add, citing that with "so many screen/rolls, so many threes" in the game now, you need a big man who can contend with all that.

Phil's comments actually lean towards Willie Cauley Stein. He actually can guard wings, and rotate well enough to contest near the basket. Towns on the wing would get burned and certainly isnt quick enough to rotate back. He may pick Towns, but towns doesnt truly satisfy what he stated.

Multiple skills/defender equals Towns in my opinion. I like Towns but Okafor seems like a definite franchise cornerstone for 10-12 years. Not sure if Towns is that. He could be more than Okafor but he might not be.

He may pick Towns, but just look at face value of what Phil actually said. His description of what his big man desire is fits WCS, but I dont think Phil drafts Stein with a top 1-4 pick. But I certainly do think if a team approaches Phil with another pick (a team who actually drafts WCS) and a solid player...he has to consider it. WCS can guard 1-5, Towns will have an adjustment not only on offense but also on defense. Towns imo will be the better pro, but no way to know what he'll do on the end that Phil specifically talked about.

Towns is a very good defender even against quicker players. Towns defends the PnR very well. He's not going to stop PG's all by himself, but he's quick enough and long enough to recover and stop guards. He even showed that in this game against Wisconsin. He's a lot better than you're giving him credit for in terms of his range on defense. Phil wasn't talking about Stein, even tho Stein is an excellent defender out in space. The question he was asked limited his options to which he'd prefer if he could only choose "a big man who can pass and score or one who can defend", but he doesn't have to choose just one aspect.

Phil said he "knows" whom he wants to draft. "We want a player that has multiple skills."

Stein doesn't have multiple skills. Towns does, so quite clearly he was really talking about Towns.

The skills Phil elaborated on were all defensive, he mentioned the importance of defense way before that question was asked. When asked he clearly picked defense again. I've already posted he might pick Towns, but Towns overall defense is not even close to WCS. Nix, look, WCS is whom I think Phil is talking about, there's really no point of debating about it....neither of us KNOW who is referring to, but we KNOW he answered specific questions....so stick to that. Phil could have easily said, "i want a player who can do work on both sides of the court". He didnt. He said way before that question he'll be looking for defenders in the draft and free agency. To be honest he could draft Kaminsky.

Imo, Phil is gonna do something in this draft and free agency that alot of people are gonna be pissed about. Either way, i just want the team to win...my opinion doesnt eclipse that, and never will.

Only way I see Phil passing over Towns for Stein is if he made a deal to add another pick who he could also grab a kid like Winslow or Kaminsky etc. Then it would make more sense cuz you've added more quality depth than just one player. Other than that if he keeps the pick he's gonna go for Towns IMO. Dude isn't even showing all of his skills on Kentucky. He can shoot with range too.

I want you to watch this video of Towns from High School last year and notice the jumpers he takes from different spots on the floor. You never see him doing this on Kentucky.

I agree completely, and have been saying this for a few weeks. The Knicks will take Towns with the #1 overall, with a slight possibility of trading down for WCS+1 for the right deal.

BRIGGS wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

knickscity wrote:

nixluva wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think in terms of the draft i'd go after Towns. I think he would help to form a core that can defend the way we need and also be effective in the half court offensively. With Towns he may not be dominant offensively right out of the box, but I know he can defend at a high level right off the bat.

I'm back to my original position on the draft. No need to mess around if we get that #1 pick take Towns. After that OK4 etc. I just think it would set up the team in the right way defensively, which is a priority IMO and he still has enough skills on offense and it seems Phil also feels that way.

- Phil said he "knows" whom he wants to draft. "We want a player that has multiple skills." He also mentioned "We have zero big men" under contract next year. Asked if he'd prefer a big man who can pass and score or one who can defend, he didn't even wait a millisecond: "Defender." This led to an elaboration on why he traded Tyson Chandler, namely Tyson's injuries last year and the fact that he's in his thirties. But he did cite Chandler as the type of big man he wants to add, citing that with "so many screen/rolls, so many threes" in the game now, you need a big man who can contend with all that.

Phil's comments actually lean towards Willie Cauley Stein. He actually can guard wings, and rotate well enough to contest near the basket. Towns on the wing would get burned and certainly isnt quick enough to rotate back. He may pick Towns, but towns doesnt truly satisfy what he stated.

Multiple skills/defender equals Towns in my opinion. I like Towns but Okafor seems like a definite franchise cornerstone for 10-12 years. Not sure if Towns is that. He could be more than Okafor but he might not be.

He may pick Towns, but just look at face value of what Phil actually said. His description of what his big man desire is fits WCS, but I dont think Phil drafts Stein with a top 1-4 pick. But I certainly do think if a team approaches Phil with another pick (a team who actually drafts WCS) and a solid player...he has to consider it. WCS can guard 1-5, Towns will have an adjustment not only on offense but also on defense. Towns imo will be the better pro, but no way to know what he'll do on the end that Phil specifically talked about.

Towns is a very good defender even against quicker players. Towns defends the PnR very well. He's not going to stop PG's all by himself, but he's quick enough and long enough to recover and stop guards. He even showed that in this game against Wisconsin. He's a lot better than you're giving him credit for in terms of his range on defense. Phil wasn't talking about Stein, even tho Stein is an excellent defender out in space. The question he was asked limited his options to which he'd prefer if he could only choose "a big man who can pass and score or one who can defend", but he doesn't have to choose just one aspect.

Phil said he "knows" whom he wants to draft. "We want a player that has multiple skills."

Stein doesn't have multiple skills. Towns does, so quite clearly he was really talking about Towns.

The skills Phil elaborated on were all defensive, he mentioned the importance of defense way before that question was asked. When asked he clearly picked defense again. I've already posted he might pick Towns, but Towns overall defense is not even close to WCS. Nix, look, WCS is whom I think Phil is talking about, there's really no point of debating about it....neither of us KNOW who is referring to, but we KNOW he answered specific questions....so stick to that. Phil could have easily said, "i want a player who can do work on both sides of the court". He didnt. He said way before that question he'll be looking for defenders in the draft and free agency. To be honest he could draft Kaminsky.

Imo, Phil is gonna do something in this draft and free agency that alot of people are gonna be pissed about. Either way, i just want the team to win...my opinion doesnt eclipse that, and never will.

knickscity--I am 100% with you on this. I believe that Phil was talking about WCS and somewhat arrogantly in the same senetence. Can I prove that--no--but if we take his words on basis--he was talking abouT WCS--additionally the confidence in his words was more like yes I know our player--meaning if we get pick 1-2-3-4 I know who we are getting and the only guy that would be there 4 times is WCS. Karl Towns will be gone by pick #2.

That's b/c Towns is a far more versatile player and a franchise cornerstone. If we get a top 2 pick, we will land either KAT or OK4. No doubt about it, unless we trade down.

Phil can just as easily draft Okafor and field a myriad of phone calls since Phil's made it clear he prefer defense.

Despite what Phil said about defense at town hall, he also spoke about being patient and knowing that young big men might take a few years to develop (e.g. As I said in my recap, he specifically brought up Bynum as an example of someone who was worth the wait even though he might not have been ready from Day 1).

I really don't see Phil passing on Ok4 if we get #2 (and Towns goes #1) unless it's to trade and fill more than one hole. The guy is just too talented to pass on and even if his D isn't there yet, he has so many other things that Phil covets (especially the unselfish passing).

We'll see though....if nothing else, will be interesting.

nixluva wrote:

s3231 wrote:Anytime man! Happy to share the info especially after seeing how extreme the media is with some of this info....it really is incredible how far they stretch some of this stuff

It actually makes me angry. I can't take Isola anymore. He's the worst. Dude is just always spinning the truth to make it look much worse. If not for your report we'd only have the slanted take from the media and those of us who agree with the negative take they always have would have a field day with this stuff. Now because of you we know more of the truth.

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