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jrodmc
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2/19/2015  8:11 AM
mreinman wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

well come back splat ... we miss da pictures

yeah, we need some meme's with cool one liners that support other poster's "the bastid's just hurt, it's not really an injury, wait, he's a frickin liar, no, he's a pansy azz" conspiracy theories...

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2/19/2015  8:17 AM
jrodmc wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

well come back splat ... we miss da pictures

yeah, we need some meme's with cool one liners that support other poster's "the bastid's just hurt, it's not really an injury, wait, he's a frickin liar, no, he's a pansy azz" conspiracy theories...

be honest jrodmc you live for that. Somebody bashing melo so you can come to the rescue and put them in their place
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2/19/2015  8:27 AM
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

The same tkf that said Denver was on its way to a championship team? Lol. Melo will be fine.

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2/19/2015  8:28 AM
Knixkik wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

The same tkf that said Denver was on its way to a championship team? Lol. Melo will be fine.

Others said worse. Like this knicks team would win 50+ games

What's your point?

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2/19/2015  8:29 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

well come back splat ... we miss da pictures

yeah, we need some meme's with cool one liners that support other poster's "the bastid's just hurt, it's not really an injury, wait, he's a frickin liar, no, he's a pansy azz" conspiracy theories...

be honest jrodmc you live for that. Somebody bashing melo so you can come to the rescue and put them in their place

I do....I do

It's not something I'm proud of, but no one else is doing it, so....


True story: had to take a family member to the ER this past Monday, and I was wearing a Knicks t-shirt. One of the male nurses looks over at me.

male nurse: "You can wear that after the All Star game Melo just had?"
jrodmc: "yeah, I can, because I'm no front runner"
Male nurse" "Oh, I wasn't saying that"
jrodmc: "yeah, then what were you saying?"
no response

Seriously stupid dick in real life, too.

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2/19/2015  8:31 AM
jrodmc wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

well come back splat ... we miss da pictures

yeah, we need some meme's with cool one liners that support other poster's "the bastid's just hurt, it's not really an injury, wait, he's a frickin liar, no, he's a pansy azz" conspiracy theories...

be honest jrodmc you live for that. Somebody bashing melo so you can come to the rescue and put them in their place

I do....I do

It's not something I'm proud of, but no one else is doing it, so....


True story: had to take a family member to the ER this past Monday, and I was wearing a Knicks t-shirt. One of the male nurses looks over at me.

male nurse: "You can wear that after the All Star game Melo just had?"
jrodmc: "yeah, I can, because I'm no front runner"
Male nurse" "Oh, I wasn't saying that"
jrodmc: "yeah, then what were you saying?"
no response

Seriously stupid dick in real life, too.

I respect your honesty. I also dont agree with too much melo bashing BUT i do think many points they make are fair as well
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2/19/2015  9:06 AM
jrodmc wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Splat wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

well come back splat ... we miss da pictures

yeah, we need some meme's with cool one liners that support other poster's "the bastid's just hurt, it's not really an injury, wait, he's a frickin liar, no, he's a pansy azz" conspiracy theories...

be honest jrodmc you live for that. Somebody bashing melo so you can come to the rescue and put them in their place

I do....I do

It's not something I'm proud of, but no one else is doing it, so....


True story: had to take a family member to the ER this past Monday, and I was wearing a Knicks t-shirt. One of the male nurses looks over at me.

male nurse: "You can wear that after the All Star game Melo just had?"
jrodmc: "yeah, I can, because I'm no front runner"
Male nurse" "Oh, I wasn't saying that"
jrodmc: "yeah, then what were you saying?"
no response

Seriously stupid dick in real life, too.



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2/19/2015  9:37 AM
Knixkik wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

The same tkf that said Denver was on its way to a championship team? Lol. Melo will be fine.

#1- Actually, that Denver team who lost in the playoffs after Gallinari got knocked out for the season was an interesting group that could have done some damage. Before the injury, they were as good as anyone in the West.

Folks also forget that Faried and Lawson also had injuries that diminished their respective games in the playoffs, if I remember correctly.

#2- "Melo will be fine." What exactly does that mean? Did you also buy into the 2 month recovery myth?

The simple fact is that you now have a potential situation where two of you season can be affected by this injury in one way or another.

Hope the recovery is quick and he has not lost much of his athletic ability, but in a post PED world, athletes above 30 who are exhibiting wear and tear type injuries usually don't return to their prime time performance standards.

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2/19/2015  9:40 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:somehere TKF, splat & dk are saying I told you so

The same tkf that said Denver was on its way to a championship team? Lol. Melo will be fine.

#1- Actually, that Denver team who lost in the playoffs after Gallinari got knocked out for the season was an interesting group that could have done some damage. Before the injury, they were as good as anyone in the West.

Folks also forget that Faried and Lawson also had injuries that diminished their respective games in the playoffs, if I remember correctly.

#2- "Melo will be fine." What exactly does that mean? Did you also buy into the 2 month recovery myth?

The simple fact is that you now have a potential situation where two of you season can be affected by this injury in one way or another.

Hope the recovery is quick and he has not lost much of his athletic ability, but in a post PED world, athletes above 30 who are exhibiting wear and tear type injuries usually don't return to their prime time performance standards.


Melo will be fine. He's gotten hundreds of millions of dollars. It's the Knicks that I'm concerned about.
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2/19/2015  9:44 AM
BRIGGS wrote:This is insane that he didnt have surgery sooner and was allowed play on it. The only good part is Carmelo is an athlete who did not depend on athletic ability.

Did Allan Houston depend on athletic ability? There's no such thing as an NBA player that doesn't depend on athletic ability. With some players like Amare, that dependence might be even more obvious, but you should follow chess if you want an activity that doesn't depend on athletic ability.
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2/19/2015  10:05 AM
Hopefully Melo goes the extra mile in rehab and is ready in 6 weeks not 8. Hopefully he pulls a Adrian Peterson
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2/19/2015  10:05 AM
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Dr. Maharam expressed optimism that Anthony will return from surgery the same player he was before without any physical interruptions.

“His career will be fine,” he said. “This is absolutely not a career-ending issue. I would say to Knicks fans: Don’t worry. He’ll be all right. He’s making a good decision to do it now so he can play next year when he gets some good players around him. It’s a good time for him to be hurt because he’s not going to get them to the championship this year. So get fixed and hopefully Jackson will bring in some people.”

Dr. Maharam described Anthony’s condition universally as “jumper’s knee” and involves inflammation of the tendon, during which the “fibers don’t line up parallel anymore,” causing the tendons to swell and become weaker.

The purpose of a debridement procedure, he said, is to scrape and smooth out the tendon “which makes platelets (parts of the blood) come out to your body’s own stem cells to heal it. And you need the six months to heal it again for it to be a strong tendon again without these little knots in it.”

Dr. Maharam said that Anthony likely didn’t exacerbate the injury by playing on it — including 30 minutes in Sunday’s All-Star Game — even though the Knicks star said he’s been experiencing pain since late October.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/doctor-carmelo-anthony-8-months-article-1.2120911
why listen to a doctor when you have posters on this site to set you straight? Melo jihadists unite! Good post crush. I was looking for some real info of the procedure as Ive worked through knee issues of my own and played a lot of ball through that. This whole thing will be a blessing in disguise.
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2/19/2015  10:08 AM
Is that the Knicks team doctor?
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2/19/2015  11:21 AM
fishmike wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
Dr. Maharam expressed optimism that Anthony will return from surgery the same player he was before without any physical interruptions.

“His career will be fine,” he said. “This is absolutely not a career-ending issue. I would say to Knicks fans: Don’t worry. He’ll be all right. He’s making a good decision to do it now so he can play next year when he gets some good players around him. It’s a good time for him to be hurt because he’s not going to get them to the championship this year. So get fixed and hopefully Jackson will bring in some people.”

Dr. Maharam described Anthony’s condition universally as “jumper’s knee” and involves inflammation of the tendon, during which the “fibers don’t line up parallel anymore,” causing the tendons to swell and become weaker.

The purpose of a debridement procedure, he said, is to scrape and smooth out the tendon “which makes platelets (parts of the blood) come out to your body’s own stem cells to heal it. And you need the six months to heal it again for it to be a strong tendon again without these little knots in it.”

Dr. Maharam said that Anthony likely didn’t exacerbate the injury by playing on it — including 30 minutes in Sunday’s All-Star Game — even though the Knicks star said he’s been experiencing pain since late October.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/doctor-carmelo-anthony-8-months-article-1.2120911
why listen to a doctor when you have posters on this site to set you straight? Melo jihadists unite! Good post crush. I was looking for some real info of the procedure as Ive worked through knee issues of my own and played a lot of ball through that. This whole thing will be a blessing in disguise.

The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.
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2/19/2015  11:22 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Is that the Knicks team doctor?

Yeah, I was wondering who this guy was. If he's someone who does this kind of surgery, obviously he's going to put a positive spin on the situation. He's not using the kind of wording that would stand up legally. With even the simplest surgery, you can't make guarantees like this doctor is doing.
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2/19/2015  11:31 AM
I'm only asking because I don't believe anything the knicks and their doctors say. So If he is an outside doctor with nothing to do with the Knicks then I will take his word
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2/19/2015  11:34 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Is that the Knicks team doctor?

NO. This is just a Dr. that has some experience in treating people who have had this surgery. It seems from the fact that they let Melo play on the knee that the Knick Doctors didn't see a very serious level of damage. That would seem to make sense given that Melo was able to actually play on it a lot. I'm pretty sure that if the pain was constant and intense that Melo would not have played on it.

This could've been worse. I thought it was worn cartilage like Amare, but this is a less serious problem. Still there are no guarantees in any surgery. Melo's chances are good but there is always a percentage of risk that it won't help.

Patellar tendinosis: a follow-up study of surgical treatment.
Ferretti A1, Conteduca F, Camerucci E, Morelli F.
Author information
Abstract

BACKGROUND:
Patellar tendinopathy (jumper's knee) is an overuse syndrome that frequently affects athletes. A retrospective study was done to analyze the results at a minimum of five years after the performance of a surgical technique in competitive athletes.
METHODS:
From 1985 to 1995, thirty-two patients (thirty-eight knees) affected by patellar tendinopathy were treated surgically after failure of nonoperative treatment. All knees were operated on by the same surgeon using the same surgical technique: longitudinal splitting of the tendon, excision of any abnormal tissue that was identified, and resection and drilling of the inferior pole of the patella. The results in twenty-seven patients (thirty-three knees), including twenty-two athletes (twenty-seven knees) who were still involved in sports activities (or wished to still be involved) at a competitive level at the time of final follow-up, were reviewed at a mean of eight years postoperatively. The results were evaluated according to symptoms and the ability to return to full sports activities.
RESULTS:
The result was excellent in twenty-three knees (70%), good in five, fair in one, and poor in four at the time of the long-term follow-up. Eighty-two percent of the patients who tried to pursue sports at their preinjury level were able to do so, and 63% of those knees were totally symptom-free.
CONCLUSIONS:
The outcome of the described surgical treatment appears to be satisfactory; however, the results are less predictable in volleyball players.

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2/19/2015  11:42 AM
gunsnewing wrote:I'm only asking because I don't believe anything the knicks and their doctors say. So If he is an outside doctor with nothing to do with the Knicks then I will take his word

Yet if he goes along with the 4-6 month recovery prognosis AND claims that Anthony playing on the leg did not exacerbate things, you have to go back to the time he was first examined and wonder why, if he was diagnosed with an injury possibly requiring 6 months recovery time, he did not immediately get the surgery, and whether this was ever suggested to him by Jackson.

When did we first know of the nature of the injury?

What exactly did we find out when he was first examined?

What was the initial prognosis and recovery period?

If the initial recovery time was short, then why did it increase?

If the initial recovery time was longer, then why was he not shut down earlier?

Who is calling the shots, here?

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2/19/2015  11:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2015  11:44 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.

It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".

Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived

Whose contract was ridiculous again?

Absolutely disgusted.

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2/19/2015  11:54 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:The problem IMO is that giving him the largest contract in the league through year SIXTEEN was a bad gamble even when he was healthy. Having a serious knee injury with a long rehab period only compounds the issue.

It drives me crazy to think about Melo and his massive contract when he was throwing Jeremy Lin's contract offer under the bus as "ridiculous".

Now two years later at the trade deadline we have:
- our top salary-getter is out for 6 months after playing injured for 2 months of meaningless ball in a season on track to be our worst ever
- we just bought out the guy with the second-highest salary (Stat) so he can play with Dirk
- the 3rd (Bargs) and 4th highest (Jose) salary-getters are admittedly untradeable, with Jose on the books into 2017
- and the guys right after then on the salary spreadsheet going into this season — Smith and Dalembert — were traded and waived

Whose contract was ridiculous again?

Absolutely disgusted.

It was a stupid comment by Melo and he should have kept his mouth shut, but he's a 100% correct. Lin is making $15mm this year and cant crack the starting lineup on one of the worst teams in the league and he's stinking off the bench also. Lin had a good first year in Hou and has been terrible since.
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