mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:How did STEIN do????

not much 6pts, 5rebs, 1blk

Any time Towns drops a double double while playing along side the giants of Kentucky it is impressive. He is going to be great in the nba where he will be more of a focal point inside and with more room to operate while being surrounded by NBA shooters. Somewhere between Anthony Davis & Andrew Bynum

I could see Towns developing into a Patrick Ewing type of player. If we draft him we need need to need to get Pat back here to work with him.

He doesn't need Ewing. He is a superb passing big which will make him a great fit in the triangle and deadly duo with Carmelo. If anything Phil should hire Shaq to show him the ropes. Ewing played in an entirely different offense. Ewing was not passing once he got the ball inside

yeah ... def no to patrick

Ewing did not like passing and towns does.

I always held that against Ewing ... and the irony is that the excuse for Ewing not passing was always:

"He has nobody to pass to"

Familiar?

Except he averaged 25pts, 10rebs, 3blks on 50% shooting and lead his team to the playoffs every year for a decade and should've won a ring if not for John Starks. He also played in the Jordan era but still managed deep playoff runs every year

Ewing was a great player but he was never close to shaq or hakeem or even David Robinson.

I agree about hawkeem & Shaq but not D-Rob. Ewing did it for longer and was a more well rounded threat with his ability to shoot from 20ft. It's not even close.

gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:How did STEIN do????

not much 6pts, 5rebs, 1blk

Any time Towns drops a double double while playing along side the giants of Kentucky it is impressive. He is going to be great in the nba where he will be more of a focal point inside and with more room to operate while being surrounded by NBA shooters. Somewhere between Anthony Davis & Andrew Bynum

I could see Towns developing into a Patrick Ewing type of player. If we draft him we need need to need to get Pat back here to work with him.

He doesn't need Ewing. He is a superb passing big which will make him a great fit in the triangle and deadly duo with Carmelo. If anything Phil should hire Shaq to show him the ropes. Ewing played in an entirely different offense. Ewing was not passing once he got the ball inside

yeah ... def no to patrick

Ewing did not like passing and towns does.

I always held that against Ewing ... and the irony is that the excuse for Ewing not passing was always:

"He has nobody to pass to"

Familiar?

Except he averaged 25pts, 10rebs, 3blks on 50% shooting and lead his team to the playoffs every year for a decade and should've won a ring if not for John Starks. He also played in the Jordan era but still managed deep playoff runs every year

Ewing was a great player but he was never close to shaq or hakeem or even David Robinson.

I agree about hawkeem & Shaq but not D-Rob. Ewing did it for longer and was a more well rounded threat with his ability to shoot from 20ft. It's not even close.

Coming from a Knick fan(s) .... lol

I don't think it is close either ... Robinson was the better player.

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Yea Lidtrning to so called NCAA and draft experts Towns & Russell stock is rising while OK4 is down a notch because of his defensive question marks and the fact that Duke plays zero defense. I won't be made if we wind up with pick 2 or : and drsft OK4 but I'm definitely leaning towards Towns. I think he is going to explode as the NCAA tournament nears. So let's keep tanking hard and see if we can kick out for once

If you knew that OK4 was gonna wind up being Al Jefferson, would you be happy? HELL NO!

Depends how the other guys pan out.

If Russell looks like the next Stephen Curry/Westbrook than Al Jefferson would be a disappointment but Al Jefferson on a rookie deal will still help the Knicks.

This is why there is more upside in drafting Towns and maybe even Russell over Ok4.

Mudiay might be a great player but he is a huge gamble whereas those guys are safe picks

gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Yea Lidtrning to so called NCAA and draft experts Towns & Russell stock is rising while OK4 is down a notch because of his defensive question marks and the fact that Duke plays zero defense. I won't be made if we wind up with pick 2 or : and drsft OK4 but I'm definitely leaning towards Towns. I think he is going to explode as the NCAA tournament nears. So let's keep tanking hard and see if we can kick out for once

If you knew that OK4 was gonna wind up being Al Jefferson, would you be happy? HELL NO!

Depends how the other guys pan out.

If Russell looks like the next Stephen Curry/Westbrook than Al Jefferson would be a disappointment but Al Jefferson on a rookie deal will still help the Knicks.

This is why there is more upside in drafting Towns and maybe even Russell over Ok4.

Mudiay might be a great player but he is a huge gamble whereas those guys are safe picks

I agree. I would be happy getting one of those 2. Not Mudiay or notOK4me.

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:I just rewatched the kentucky game.

Towns is such a smart player and passes so well for such a young guy.

Drafting Ok4 over him would be a disaster.

Unfortunately, it will be hard to get Towns based on our chances of winning the lotto.

It's why your posting gets less and less attention. Knicks have the second worst record in the league.

No, I think that Towns will rise to number 1. Our chances of getting the first pick if we had the worst record is 25%ish and a 46% chance of getting top 2.

If we were the 2nd worst team then we have 39 percent chance to get top 2.

3 rorst, 31%.

So, if we are hoping for towns, is it not safe to say the chances are that we won't get him? Even if he end up with the second worst record?

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:I just rewatched the kentucky game.

Towns is such a smart player and passes so well for such a young guy.

Drafting Ok4 over him would be a disaster.

Unfortunately, it will be hard to get Towns based on our chances of winning the lotto.

It's why your posting gets less and less attention. Knicks have the second worst record in the league.

No, I think that Towns will rise to number 1. Our chances of getting the first pick if we had the worst record is 25%ish and a 46% chance of getting top 2.

If we were the 2nd worst team then we have 39 percent chance to get top 2.

3 rorst, 31%.

So, if we are hoping for towns, is it not safe to say the chances are that we won't get him? Even if he end up with the second worst record?

Not since Dwight Howard in 2004 has the team with the worst record won the lottery. It doent matter where you finish as long as you finish in the bottom 4. You constantly see those teams get rewarded with a top pick. Whereas at 5-8 you are pretty much stuck as we know from the Layden/Isiah/Walsh years

gunsnewing wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:I just rewatched the kentucky game.

Towns is such a smart player and passes so well for such a young guy.

Drafting Ok4 over him would be a disaster.

Unfortunately, it will be hard to get Towns based on our chances of winning the lotto.

It's why your posting gets less and less attention. Knicks have the second worst record in the league.

No, I think that Towns will rise to number 1. Our chances of getting the first pick if we had the worst record is 25%ish and a 46% chance of getting top 2.

If we were the 2nd worst team then we have 39 percent chance to get top 2.

3 rorst, 31%.

So, if we are hoping for towns, is it not safe to say the chances are that we won't get him? Even if he end up with the second worst record?

Not since Dwight Howard in 2004 has the team with the worst record won the lottery. It doent matter where you finish as long as you finish in the bottom 4. You constantly see those teams get rewarded with a top pick. Whereas at 5-8 you are pretty much stuck as we know from the Layden/Isiah/Walsh years

Yes ... and its a good rule. Tanking on purpose is stupid and should not be part of the game. No shoe ins.

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:I just rewatched the kentucky game.

Towns is such a smart player and passes so well for such a young guy.

Drafting Ok4 over him would be a disaster.

Unfortunately, it will be hard to get Towns based on our chances of winning the lotto.

It's why your posting gets less and less attention. Knicks have the second worst record in the league.

No, I think that Towns will rise to number 1. Our chances of getting the first pick if we had the worst record is 25%ish and a 46% chance of getting top 2.

If we were the 2nd worst team then we have 39 percent chance to get top 2.

3 rorst, 31%.

So, if we are hoping for towns, is it not safe to say the chances are that we won't get him? Even if he end up with the second worst record?

Great. You've narrowed down your thinking to: Towns is going #1, if we don't have the #1 we probably won't get it. In spite of the fact that the Knicks currently have the second best chance and the #1 slot statistically doesn't gets the #1 pick and Towns is not the consensus #1 pick. This is not Duncan or LeBron we are talking about.

That is not my though process at all!

Chances of getting a top two pick if you have a bottom 3 record is at best (worst record) 46 percent. If towns goes 1 or 2, chances are we will not get him.

Finishing with the second worst record, we have a 55% chance of even getting a top 3 pick!! (hardly good odds).

Very good chance that Philly (1 back) moves past us and we are down to a 47% chance of top 3.

So for me who and many of us who really want towns, with his rising stock, I don't like our chances. And, its barely a coin flip if we even get a top 3.