dk7th wrote:F500ONE wrote:dk7th wrote:Splat wrote:RonRon wrote:Chicago and Houston already have a stacked team with ALL STARS already
At the time, Lakers actually has a better roster and brighter future at the time they had a pickWe are in STEP 1 of the process and CA isn't getting any younger
It takes time to build a team and it is impossible to build a contender unless suddendly we seem to pick out a bunch of steals like Manu/Parker/Ibaka
And signing vet min players to 2 year deals that play like ALL STARS
Again, I didn't care if CA wanted to get paid, however, it had to have happened AFTER we acquired a solid core with a *WINK WINK* deal like we did with JR and Chris Smith
However, if we pay him first, we simply do not have the ability to build the a team around him
Yes. It is so basic.
Trying to tell some here this basic principle is like talking to a wall.
You add Melo to a team that is mostly already constructed.
You do not build around Melo.
Or if you insist on doing so, you don't commit that much cap space for 5 years with a no-trade clause to a player heading into their declining years.
It is all so obvious. Lots of baby talk going on here when people can't grasp these basic realities. They want to tear your face off if you stick to these as your core assumptions.
If Melo were added to my already decent team at a reasonable price, I'd be singing a completely different tune.
The Bulls understood Melo's realistic value and they were not going to give up value to get him.
The Knicks set his market value where the Knicks usually set market values which is stratopheric prices for non-franchise players.
what's hilarious is that even melo had to have had SOME inkling of his "real value" and he STILL went for the money! ha ha ha what a clown
Yes he did
Bulls 4yrs $74mil[Klay Thompson value]
Mavs 4yrs $73mil[Klay Thompson value]
Rockets 4yrs $88mil[Dwight Howard value]
Lakers 4yrs $97mil last offer and allowed to enter race late[his max value]
No need to offer more than $100mil with 7.5% raises
what's neat about this is that when we were arguing this summer over how much melo should be paid, i said no more that 12-14 million per, while a vast majority said 18 million-- which is basically what the bulls and mavs deals are.
very few posters had a problem with 18 million per at that time, some said he's worth as much as 22 million, although i vaguely recall some idiots saying it would be "what the market would bear"
which to me means that "no matter what the price melo would be worth every penny because the market says so."
what's hilarious is that "the market" was the knicks and ONLY the knicks.
fortunately he still "has time" to develop his game and the knicks "just need" and voila we are a title-contender.
You know what I don't get since it was about money
Supposedly Phil had 5 different contracts on the table
Why didn't he offer him slightly more than Lakers
Stick to it at least to the degree calling Melo's bluff
Because that offer was still nearly $30mil more than the Bulls
Who were the main competition, it's really hard to not stew over this
Which is why my focus has been to target Phil more and more
The Odom, Kerr, Fisher, and Melo contract offers and negotiations are absolute head scratchers
Each one worse in succession