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DrAlphaeus
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![]() I want to bring this thread back on topic, and not spiral into geopolitics, because I think it's an interesting topic about the league, the media, and race relations.
The OP was about Levenson. His comments are pretty innocuous compared to Ferry in my opinion. Here is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's take on it from a few days ago: http://time.com/3296175/bruce-levenson-atlanta-hawks-racist-email-kareem-abdul-jabbar/ Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Bruce Levenson Isn’t a Racist; He’s a Businessman Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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CrushAlot
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![]() Doc, I believe we have talked about alternative ways to watch Knick games. Check this site out. A lot of good stuff has been written about it and its really inexpensive.
http://www4.ballstreams.com/ I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
![]() CrushAlot wrote:Doc, I believe we have talked about alternative ways to watch Knick games. Check this site out. A lot of good stuff has been written about it and its really inexpensive. Haha... thanks... OT but thanks Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
![]() Kareem basically said what I think most of us said on page 1 of this thread: many of us weren't offended by what Levenson said. Dubious and uncomfortable about his premises perhaps, but the context seemed like a demographic marketing discussion typical of a US entertainment business. And it seemed weird that Levenson would sell his stake over something like that.
But in this article in the Post about Melo's take on the Hawks — http://nypost.com/2014/09/13/melo-on-hawks-nobody-would-want-to-go-there-after-racism-uproar/ — I saw this quote: The Hawks franchise has been under fire after the Hawks and the NBA announced Sunday morning that the team’s majority owner, Bruce Levenson, was selling his controlling interest in the franchise after an internal investigation uncovered a racist email he sent to other team executives in 2012. That investigation began after general manager Danny Ferry said on a conference call with the team’s ownership group in June that potential free agent target Luol Deng, “He’s got some African in him. And I don’t say that in a bad way.” So my beef with that quote is that I think the debate is still out about Levenson's email being "racist". Sure, the email was about race, but you'd think that they could have spared a couple more words to more accurately describe the contents of that email. But that's the media for you I guess. So let me try to do better: It seems like the sequence of events was: I think it is a shame that Levenson felt the need to sell, but maybe he just knew what was coming down the pike and didn't want to get hit. I think Ferry's comments were based in stereotypes about Africans immigrants, were more egregious than Levenson's, and particularly foolish since they were on a conference call that was being recorded. Plus, it didn't make any goddamn sense. He says "he's got some African in him" and then says "not in a bad way" but then starts talking about his perceived faults. So obviously, he meant in it in a bad way, whether or not he's reading someone else's comments — and for all we know this alleged scout could be African-American because like I said upthread, beef between US blacks, Africans, and black West Indians is a real thing. Is it worth him losing his job? Not sure, but as a Knicks fan, the more Eastern Conference teams in chaos, the better for us! I just pulled the Knicks card. Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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