smackeddog wrote:The interview is done at a business conference for a business tv program and the interviewers first question/statement is "From a businessman's perspective, because that's why we're here". And he's being blasted for talking business? It's like watching an interview at a golf game and complaining that the player is talking about golf.

not quite

smackeddog wrote:The interview is done at a business conference for a business tv program and the interviewers first question/statement is "From a businessman's perspective, because that's why we're here". And he's being blasted for talking business? It's like watching an interview at a golf game and complaining that the player is talking about golf.

Disagree because he also spoke about basketball

He spoke about Phil, his contract and having the ability to win

CrushAlot wrote:

F500ONE wrote:

smackeddog wrote:The interview is done at a business conference for a business tv program and the interviewers first question/statement is "From a businessman's perspective, because that's why we're here". And he's being blasted for talking business? It's like watching an interview at a golf game and complaining that the player is talking about golf.

Disagree because he also spoke about basketball

He spoke about Phil, his contract and having the ability to win

He was asked about basketball.

The point, the interview wasn't all about business

There were connections made to basketball, contract, business, and winning

On and off the court

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:i mean, these tweets are quoting carmelo anthony himself! a lot of doubletalk, forked tongue, lip service. the dude is a D-O-U-C-H-E DOUCHE. he'd better have a monster year and not open his piehole once.

So I guess it's your job to be the morality police....sitting here on a computer/phone....while unproductively reading/posting on a fan message board and pretending to be some higher moral authority who's never said nor done anything stupid in life.....nor never ever acted like a douche.

same challenge to you, mother teresa: explain his own words in such a way that they don't convey douchebaggery

Here's my answer......I really don't give a sh!t if Melo is a douche or not a douche. I don't pretend to think I am in his mind to understand how much he values winning vs how much he values money. I don't view professional athletes as role models and will likely never know the guy personally. I also don't tend to obsess over things I don't have any control over.......like what Melo is thinking, or especially after the fact, such as the value/length of an athlete's contract.....AFTER it has been signed.

A logical person would be able to deduce that if someone was performing an interview at a Bloomberg Sports/Business Summit....the focus would be about Money. Since Bloomberg is a company that focuses primarily on finance/money....and the summit was about the business side of sports/athletes. Further, we live in a capitalistic society, in which a sizeable portion of our population is drivin by money.

Melo is a basketball player for the team I root for.....nothing more. My interest in Melo comes down to how he has performed, is performing and potentially will perform to help the team win games. I believe that Melo has shown he has a lot of talent....but like 99% of players....has some questions/holes that are open to interpretation and discussion on how he will help the team going forward. How he is as a person means very little to me.....and unless he has done something very bad/illegal.....or very good/charitable....I really don't care....nor pretend on some message board that I am the better person.

Melo makes a a high salary with regards to the Knicks salary cap.....that is the extent of my interest in his salary. I don't opine about how much is too much for a person in a lifetime or multiple lifetimes....or how he should give back because he already makes too much. It was Dolan & Jackson's decision to sign him back at his current salary. They could have let him sign elsewhere if they felt the salary was too high given his potential to help the Knicks in the next several years. Whether they made a good move or mistake will be revealed over the next 3-5 years.

Another poster calling a player a douche or stupid or a clown over and over again seems childish and makes this board less enjoyable for most everyone else......just my opinion.

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:i mean, these tweets are quoting carmelo anthony himself! a lot of doubletalk, forked tongue, lip service. the dude is a D-O-U-C-H-E DOUCHE. he'd better have a monster year and not open his piehole once.

So I guess it's your job to be the morality police....sitting here on a computer/phone....while unproductively reading/posting on a fan message board and pretending to be some higher moral authority who's never said nor done anything stupid in life.....nor never ever acted like a douche.

same challenge to you, mother teresa: explain his own words in such a way that they don't convey douchebaggery

Here's my answer......I really don't give a sh!t if Melo is a douche or not a douche. I don't pretend to think I am in his mind to understand how much he values winning vs how much he values money. I don't view professional athletes as role models and will likely never know the guy personally. I also don't tend to obsess over things I don't have any control over.......like what Melo is thinking, or especially after the fact, such as the value/length of an athlete's contract.....AFTER it has been signed.

A logical person would be able to deduce that if someone was performing an interview at a Bloomberg Sports/Business Summit....the focus would be about Money. Since Bloomberg is a company that focuses primarily on finance/money....and the summit was about the business side of sports/athletes. Further, we live in a capitalistic society, in which a sizeable portion of our population is drivin by money.

Melo is a basketball player for the team I root for.....nothing more. My interest in Melo comes down to how he has performed, is performing and potentially will perform to help the team win games. I believe that Melo has shown he has a lot of talent....but like 99% of players....has some questions/holes that are open to interpretation and discussion on how he will help the team going forward. How he is as a person means very little to me.....and unless he has done something very bad/illegal.....or very good/charitable....I really don't care....nor pretend on some message board that I am the better person.

Melo makes a a high salary with regards to the Knicks salary cap.....that is the extent of my interest in his salary. I don't opine about how much is too much for a person in a lifetime or multiple lifetimes....or how he should give back because he already makes too much. It was Dolan & Jackson's decision to sign him back at his current salary. They could have let him sign elsewhere if they felt the salary was too high given his potential to help the Knicks in the next several years. Whether they made a good move or mistake will be revealed over the next 3-5 years.

Another poster calling a player a douche or stupid or a clown over and over again seems childish and makes this board less enjoyable for most everyone else......just my opinion.

if you didn't care then you should not have participated in the thread or engaged me.

since you did participate and engage then logic dictates that you do care. hence the main ingredient in this response of yours is evasion laced with the predictable personal attack.

not very logical of you, though i am sure some appreciate your efforts to come across that way.

what you are actually saying is: "melo's comments demonstrate that money is more important than winning. i don't know of any way around that fact since his words speak for themselves. regardless of his paying lip service to winning, i hope that this does not affect how well he plays on the court or that it does not have a negative impact on the ability of the knicks to build a winner while he is here."

as i said before, he is entitled to expand his brand through social media, follow through on business opportunities with his partner and mentor goldfarb, try to have a positive impact beyond sneaker deals and whatnot for noble causes connected with education, be a digital athlete, and basically break free from the "40 million-dollar slave" ethos that has, up until recently, been the model. i personally applaud this paradigm shift for all black athletes, and i root for melo to take full advantage of this opportunity.

but not at the cost of 24 million a year at his "day job" and at the expense of the knicks and their fans. he could be doing all these business things for far less and be that much closer to winning at his day job. that way he would not be paying lip service to winning but literally putting his money where his mouth is.

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:i mean, these tweets are quoting carmelo anthony himself! a lot of doubletalk, forked tongue, lip service. the dude is a D-O-U-C-H-E DOUCHE. he'd better have a monster year and not open his piehole once.

So I guess it's your job to be the morality police....sitting here on a computer/phone....while unproductively reading/posting on a fan message board and pretending to be some higher moral authority who's never said nor done anything stupid in life.....nor never ever acted like a douche.

same challenge to you, mother teresa: explain his own words in such a way that they don't convey douchebaggery

Here's my answer......I really don't give a sh!t if Melo is a douche or not a douche. I don't pretend to think I am in his mind to understand how much he values winning vs how much he values money. I don't view professional athletes as role models and will likely never know the guy personally. I also don't tend to obsess over things I don't have any control over.......like what Melo is thinking, or especially after the fact, such as the value/length of an athlete's contract.....AFTER it has been signed.

A logical person would be able to deduce that if someone was performing an interview at a Bloomberg Sports/Business Summit....the focus would be about Money. Since Bloomberg is a company that focuses primarily on finance/money....and the summit was about the business side of sports/athletes. Further, we live in a capitalistic society, in which a sizeable portion of our population is drivin by money.

Melo is a basketball player for the team I root for.....nothing more. My interest in Melo comes down to how he has performed, is performing and potentially will perform to help the team win games. I believe that Melo has shown he has a lot of talent....but like 99% of players....has some questions/holes that are open to interpretation and discussion on how he will help the team going forward. How he is as a person means very little to me.....and unless he has done something very bad/illegal.....or very good/charitable....I really don't care....nor pretend on some message board that I am the better person.

Melo makes a a high salary with regards to the Knicks salary cap.....that is the extent of my interest in his salary. I don't opine about how much is too much for a person in a lifetime or multiple lifetimes....or how he should give back because he already makes too much. It was Dolan & Jackson's decision to sign him back at his current salary. They could have let him sign elsewhere if they felt the salary was too high given his potential to help the Knicks in the next several years. Whether they made a good move or mistake will be revealed over the next 3-5 years.

Another poster calling a player a douche or stupid or a clown over and over again seems childish and makes this board less enjoyable for most everyone else......just my opinion.

if you didn't care then you should not have participated in the thread or engaged me.

since you did participate and engage then logic dictates that you do care. hence the main ingredient in this response of yours is evasion laced with the predictable personal attack.

not very logical of you, though i am sure some appreciate your efforts to come across that way.

what you are actually saying is: "melo's comments demonstrate that money is more important than winning. i don't know of any way around that fact since his words speak for themselves. regardless of his paying lip service to winning, i hope that this does not affect how well he plays on the court or that it does not have a negative impact on the ability of the knicks to build a winner while he is here."

as i said before, he is entitled to expand his brand through social media, follow through on business opportunities with his partner and mentor goldfarb, try to have a positive impact beyond sneaker deals and whatnot for noble causes connected with education, be a digital athlete, and basically break free from the "40 million-dollar slave" ethos that has, up until recently, been the model. i personally applaud this paradigm shift for all black athletes, and i root for melo to take full advantage of this opportunity.

but not at the cost of 24 million a year at his "day job" and at the expense of the knicks and their fans. he could be doing all these business things for far less and be that much closer to winning at his day job. that way he would not be paying lip service to winning but literally putting his money where his mouth is.

I engaged you in this thread because you referred to him as a douche.......I thought that was pretty apparent when I posted this.....

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:i mean, these tweets are quoting carmelo anthony himself! a lot of doubletalk, forked tongue, lip service. the dude is a D-O-U-C-H-E DOUCHE. he'd better have a monster year and not open his piehole once.

So I guess it's your job to be the morality police....sitting here on a computer/phone....while unproductively reading/posting on a fan message board and pretending to be some higher moral authority who's never said nor done anything stupid in life.....nor never ever acted like a douche.

My problem is with you, as you are taking away from my enjoyment of reading this board by your constant obsession with what Melo is thinking and the rules you apply to how he should act and what he should say as a human being.....as if you are the morality police.

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:i mean, these tweets are quoting carmelo anthony himself! a lot of doubletalk, forked tongue, lip service. the dude is a D-O-U-C-H-E DOUCHE. he'd better have a monster year and not open his piehole once.

So I guess it's your job to be the morality police....sitting here on a computer/phone....while unproductively reading/posting on a fan message board and pretending to be some higher moral authority who's never said nor done anything stupid in life.....nor never ever acted like a douche.

same challenge to you, mother teresa: explain his own words in such a way that they don't convey douchebaggery

Here's my answer......I really don't give a sh!t if Melo is a douche or not a douche. I don't pretend to think I am in his mind to understand how much he values winning vs how much he values money. I don't view professional athletes as role models and will likely never know the guy personally. I also don't tend to obsess over things I don't have any control over.......like what Melo is thinking, or especially after the fact, such as the value/length of an athlete's contract.....AFTER it has been signed.

A logical person would be able to deduce that if someone was performing an interview at a Bloomberg Sports/Business Summit....the focus would be about Money. Since Bloomberg is a company that focuses primarily on finance/money....and the summit was about the business side of sports/athletes. Further, we live in a capitalistic society, in which a sizeable portion of our population is drivin by money.

Melo is a basketball player for the team I root for.....nothing more. My interest in Melo comes down to how he has performed, is performing and potentially will perform to help the team win games. I believe that Melo has shown he has a lot of talent....but like 99% of players....has some questions/holes that are open to interpretation and discussion on how he will help the team going forward. How he is as a person means very little to me.....and unless he has done something very bad/illegal.....or very good/charitable....I really don't care....nor pretend on some message board that I am the better person.

Melo makes a a high salary with regards to the Knicks salary cap.....that is the extent of my interest in his salary. I don't opine about how much is too much for a person in a lifetime or multiple lifetimes....or how he should give back because he already makes too much. It was Dolan & Jackson's decision to sign him back at his current salary. They could have let him sign elsewhere if they felt the salary was too high given his potential to help the Knicks in the next several years. Whether they made a good move or mistake will be revealed over the next 3-5 years.

Another poster calling a player a douche or stupid or a clown over and over again seems childish and makes this board less enjoyable for most everyone else......just my opinion.

if you didn't care then you should not have participated in the thread or engaged me.

since you did participate and engage then logic dictates that you do care. hence the main ingredient in this response of yours is evasion laced with the predictable personal attack.

not very logical of you, though i am sure some appreciate your efforts to come across that way.

what you are actually saying is: "melo's comments demonstrate that money is more important than winning. i don't know of any way around that fact since his words speak for themselves. regardless of his paying lip service to winning, i hope that this does not affect how well he plays on the court or that it does not have a negative impact on the ability of the knicks to build a winner while he is here."

as i said before, he is entitled to expand his brand through social media, follow through on business opportunities with his partner and mentor goldfarb, try to have a positive impact beyond sneaker deals and whatnot for noble causes connected with education, be a digital athlete, and basically break free from the "40 million-dollar slave" ethos that has, up until recently, been the model. i personally applaud this paradigm shift for all black athletes, and i root for melo to take full advantage of this opportunity.

but not at the cost of 24 million a year at his "day job" and at the expense of the knicks and their fans. he could be doing all these business things for far less and be that much closer to winning at his day job. that way he would not be paying lip service to winning but literally putting his money where his mouth is.

I engaged you in this thread because you referred to him as a douche.......I thought that was pretty apparent when I posted this.....

foosballnick wrote:

dk7th wrote:i mean, these tweets are quoting carmelo anthony himself! a lot of doubletalk, forked tongue, lip service. the dude is a D-O-U-C-H-E DOUCHE. he'd better have a monster year and not open his piehole once.

So I guess it's your job to be the morality police....sitting here on a computer/phone....while unproductively reading/posting on a fan message board and pretending to be some higher moral authority who's never said nor done anything stupid in life.....nor never ever acted like a douche.

My problem is with you, as you are taking away from my enjoyment of reading this board by your constant obsession with what Melo is thinking and the rules you apply to how he should act and what he should say as a human being.....as if you are the morality police.

all you have to say is that you don't have a problem with a 24 million dollar player paying lip service to winning. edit: meanwhile, this dude takes away from my enjoyment of watching the knicks.

StarksEwing1 wrote:Im starting to get the sense that this thread was made in order to bait people into bashing and/or defending melo. Its really getting tiring. I dislike both the melo haters and lovers. I respect those who stay neutral. Im a Knicks fan and all i care about is my team winning. I root for every player even if i dont particularly like some aspects of their game.

guns, can you check gamePicker and see if StarksEwing actually always picks the Knicks to go 41-41?

StarksEwing1 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Im starting to get the sense that this thread was made in order to bait people into bashing and/or defending melo. Its really getting tiring. I dislike both the melo haters and lovers. I respect those who stay neutral. Im a Knicks fan and all i care about is my team winning. I root for every player even if i dont particularly like some aspects of their game.

guns, can you check gamePicker and see if StarksEwing actually always picks the Knicks to go 41-41?

Actually Jrodmc i always predict a Knicks win even when it doenst look like a good matchup. Im a big sports fan and the Knicks are my number 1 team so that should tell you something. Im sorry that im also not afraid to be critical of the team/players when they dont perform well or dont hustle BUT i also am the first to give props to anyone who plays well. I think you are a good fan but spend too much time worrying abotu what people feel about melo

jrodmc wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:Im starting to get the sense that this thread was made in order to bait people into bashing and/or defending melo. Its really getting tiring. I dislike both the melo haters and lovers. I respect those who stay neutral. Im a Knicks fan and all i care about is my team winning. I root for every player even if i dont particularly like some aspects of their game.

guns, can you check gamePicker and see if StarksEwing actually always picks the Knicks to go 41-41?

Why don't you check it yourself. You brought up TKF finishing 2nd