Uptown wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC?

Well Durant and Lebron are better players than Melo and have had more success so of course they should get more. If I were Melo and i knew my playoff record was tough to look at i would take a paycut in order to get the best players i can to build around me

Since Durant is a better player than Melo, does that mean he can sign to the max and he doesn't need to take a pay cut because he doesn't need as many players to build around him? Last I checked, Durant didn't get past the Spurs this year either. Also, he has the same amount of rings as Melo....

You are now making an argument on what Durant will do next year because you of all people have personal insight into what he will do? Right after calling Lebron and Bosh idiots for taking the max having watched them take millions less for 4 years to do the exact thing you ridiculed?

So precious.

First off, the 'idiot' comment was a sarcastic response to Bonn. Perhaps you should read everything that was said you can get the gist of where I was going with my post...

Well you're still confusing the issue of examining a signing from the player's vs. the team's perspective. I *never* said these players were idiots for taking the most money they could get. I don't know anything about their goals in life. Maybe they want as many mansions as possible and that's their right. The Heat are idiots for giving Bosh that salary but if Bosh wants to own dozens of mansions, then he's smart for taking the deal.

Uptown wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Because they care more about Melo than they do the Knicks.

BS!!! I root for Melo only because he wears the Blue and Orange. Was a Knick fan long before he was a Knick and will be long after. I dont root against my fav team because of one player like some posters do around here....

Who roots against their favorite team? That sounds like BS as well

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC?

Well Durant and Lebron are better players than Melo and have had more success so of course they should get more. If I were Melo and i knew my playoff record was tough to look at i would take a paycut in order to get the best players i can to build around me

So this would actually be your thought process? Or did you just want to take a shot at Melos playoff record for the billionth time?

Not taking a shot at melo. See this is what aggravates me. If i am even a tad bit critical of melo i get labeled a melo hater. i have defended the guy plenty of times. However i dont care about his finacial welfare i jst acre about the Knicks payroll because i want to build a long standing contender. I have said a billion times i would liek to have melo back to build around him but the least he could do is take a tad bit less to help phil build the team

You're too damn sensitive. First off, not once did I label you a "melo hater". You keep trying to play victim for some reason. Second, if you read my post instead of getting emotional, you would have seen that the point was that you keep repeating that "Melos playoff record isn't the best" when, most of the time, it was nothing to do with the conversation. That would be taking a shot.

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC?

Well Durant and Lebron are better players than Melo and have had more success so of course they should get more. If I were Melo and i knew my playoff record was tough to look at i would take a paycut in order to get the best players i can to build around me

So this would actually be your thought process? Or did you just want to take a shot at Melos playoff record for the billionth time?

Not taking a shot at melo. See this is what aggravates me. If i am even a tad bit critical of melo i get labeled a melo hater. i have defended the guy plenty of times. However i dont care about his finacial welfare i jst acre about the Knicks payroll because i want to build a long standing contender. I have said a billion times i would liek to have melo back to build around him but the least he could do is take a tad bit less to help phil build the team

You're too damn sensitive. First off, not once did I label you a "melo hater". You keep trying to play victim for some reason. Second, if you read my post instead of getting emotional, you would have seen that the point was that you keep repeating that "Melos playoff record isn't the best" when, most of the time, it was nothing to do with the conversation. That would be taking a shot.

no need to be sensitive dude. We are both diehard knick fans lets just keep it civil. Lets Go Knicks!!

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC so they too cam compete with the Spurs.

It's not a matter of what model I *want* to use. The issue is that we *have to* build a team with better players make much less.

Excellent Point

Well I messed up and went back to edit it. I guess you figured out what I was trying to say though. I seriously don't understand why people are concerned about Melo's perspective. We're Knicks' fans, right? We have to worry about it whether this works from the Knicks' perspective. If Melo's best interests and the Knicks' best interests don't align, you can't side with Melo if you're a Knicks' fan.

I'm looking at both sides...the players side and the front office side. As a player, if 11 time champion Phil Jackson puts a max contract in front of me, I'm signing it. The problem I'm seeing is, no one seems to put any blame on Phil. Everyone is blaming the player for signing a contract that probably should have never been offered in the first place.

He is the only person I would blame.

Yeah i like Phil but im not crazy about him offering 129 million to a 30 year old its risky for any player in their 30's

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC?

Well Durant and Lebron are better players than Melo and have had more success so of course they should get more. If I were Melo and i knew my playoff record was tough to look at i would take a paycut in order to get the best players i can to build around me

So this would actually be your thought process? Or did you just want to take a shot at Melos playoff record for the billionth time?

Not taking a shot at melo. See this is what aggravates me. If i am even a tad bit critical of melo i get labeled a melo hater. i have defended the guy plenty of times. However i dont care about his finacial welfare i jst acre about the Knicks payroll because i want to build a long standing contender. I have said a billion times i would liek to have melo back to build around him but the least he could do is take a tad bit less to help phil build the team

You're too damn sensitive. First off, not once did I label you a "melo hater". You keep trying to play victim for some reason. Second, if you read my post instead of getting emotional, you would have seen that the point was that you keep repeating that "Melos playoff record isn't the best" when, most of the time, it was nothing to do with the conversation. That would be taking a shot.

no need to be sensitive dude. We are both diehard knick fans lets just keep it civil. Lets Go Knicks!!

Yeah, honestly I'm skeptical but I'm going to try to keep an open mind rather than ruling out the possibility of it working. I won't enjoy being a fan otherwise! I'll just hope it somehow works out great

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC?

Well Durant and Lebron are better players than Melo and have had more success so of course they should get more. If I were Melo and i knew my playoff record was tough to look at i would take a paycut in order to get the best players i can to build around me

So this would actually be your thought process? Or did you just want to take a shot at Melos playoff record for the billionth time?

Not taking a shot at melo. See this is what aggravates me. If i am even a tad bit critical of melo i get labeled a melo hater. i have defended the guy plenty of times. However i dont care about his finacial welfare i jst acre about the Knicks payroll because i want to build a long standing contender. I have said a billion times i would liek to have melo back to build around him but the least he could do is take a tad bit less to help phil build the team

You're too damn sensitive. First off, not once did I label you a "melo hater". You keep trying to play victim for some reason. Second, if you read my post instead of getting emotional, you would have seen that the point was that you keep repeating that "Melos playoff record isn't the best" when, most of the time, it was nothing to do with the conversation. That would be taking a shot.

no need to be sensitive dude. We are both diehard knick fans lets just keep it civil. Lets Go Knicks!!

Quality response Irish

Uptown wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:Because they care more about Melo than they do the Knicks.

BS!!! I root for Melo only because he wears the Blue and Orange. Was a Knick fan long before he was a Knick and will be long after. I dont root against my fav team because of one player like some posters do around here....

+1. Not a big Melo fan before he came to NY. Watching his play won me over. Trying to provide some balance and truth with his harsh critics on here has made me even more of a fan.

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

MaTT4281 wrote:

Frank Isola ‏@FisolaNYDN 33m
I'm pretty sure Carmelo will take less than $129 million. Not saying it will be five years $100 but it won't be $129 million

Watch it will probably be 120-125 million and he will say he took less lol

which would still make him the highest paid player in the game.

Exactly which is crazy when you think of guys like lebron durant duncan parker dirk and even noah who have had more success especially in postseason

It's not crazy when you realize that these salaries and the amount you can make are set in stone and all depend on the years you have put in. Dirk and Duncan have had max salaries in the past. Durant hasn't put in as many years as Melo yet, but do you have any doubt that he wont get his money? If Lebron stays in Miami, he would have gotten more as well....

Oh it's *not* crazy when you look at it from Melo's perspective. But that's not my concern. I'm looking at it from the Knicks' perspective. We have to find a way to build a team that competes against teams with hall-of-famers making only around $10 mil a year (SAS) or the best player on the planet making millions less than Melo.

If you want to use San An as a model, then its the whole leagues problem if they want to wrestle the trophy from them. If this is the case, Bosh is an idiot for taking the max, he should have requested 10 mil per so they can add more talent after Lebron departed. Speaking of Lebron, he's an idiot too for taking the max, he should have only taken 10 mil so they can sign Love outright next year and possibly Marc Gasol so they can compete with the Spurs.

Durant is coming up for FA's too. He's he gonna take a serious pay cut so they can add more talent to OKC?

Well Durant and Lebron are better players than Melo and have had more success so of course they should get more. If I were Melo and i knew my playoff record was tough to look at i would take a paycut in order to get the best players i can to build around me

So this would actually be your thought process? Or did you just want to take a shot at Melos playoff record for the billionth time?

Not taking a shot at melo. See this is what aggravates me. If i am even a tad bit critical of melo i get labeled a melo hater. i have defended the guy plenty of times. However i dont care about his finacial welfare i jst acre about the Knicks payroll because i want to build a long standing contender. I have said a billion times i would liek to have melo back to build around him but the least he could do is take a tad bit less to help phil build the team

You're too damn sensitive. First off, not once did I label you a "melo hater". You keep trying to play victim for some reason. Second, if you read my post instead of getting emotional, you would have seen that the point was that you keep repeating that "Melos playoff record isn't the best" when, most of the time, it was nothing to do with the conversation. That would be taking a shot.

no need to be sensitive dude. We are both diehard knick fans lets just keep it civil. Lets Go Knicks!!

Quality response Irish

Im Italian but the point is lets just see what happens. I always wnated melo back i just would have preferred he take a bit less.