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Do you want Melo to return?


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stanleybostitch
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Do you want Melo to return, and if so under what circumstances?
Hell yes, pay the man what he wants. We're sunk without him.
Yes, but only if he takes a haircut.
Indifferent
No. It's time to move on and Melo won't work in system ball.
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mreinman
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7/7/2014  10:12 PM
anrst wrote:yall know this thread is completely illegible?

coming from a guy who creates a thread title starting with "I mean ..."

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/7/2014  11:31 PM
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7/7/2014  11:46 PM
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”
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7/8/2014  12:27 AM
mreinman wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:I still think that Melo coming here for the max is not gonna happen and just posturing on both sides.

It would be insanely stupid, mainly on Melo's part.

Disagree, how can you blame a player for signing a contract that his boss puts in front of him?


Is that a rhetorical question or you can't think of any reasons why people would blame him?

I understand why people would, but in reality, its unfair to vilify a player and call him selfish for signing a contract to the amount of money he's sloted to make. A slot that was negotiated by the owners and players. The main problem is having a cap on the salary but that's another discussion.

Players are paid to play. GM's /presidents are paid big bucks to put the pieces together and work around the cap. Don't offer me a contract that you don't want me to sign.

So you don't think that he should even take a small discount and give his team a better chance to win?

Do you honestly believe that it is more about the money or ego?

If Phil puts a discounted contract on the table, then Melo wont have a choice. My point is, don't blame the player for taking the money that is being offered to him. If Phil wants him to sign a 5 year 110 mil contract then that's what you put on the table. Don't put 129 mil on the table then get upset and vilify me for signing it.

I disagree. Phil offered Melo the max because Melo required him to.

Its in Melo's court not Phil's.

Phil is saying that if you handcuff me/us then we have no choice but its up to you to make the decision to take less for the good of the team.

When did Melo require the full max on the table? I must have missed that quote.....In the end, its Phil's job as the president to manage the cap, not Melo's. Don't think he's good enough for a max, sign and trade him.....

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7/8/2014  12:29 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2014  12:38 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”

Good point! 5 years, $69 mil would put Melo over $200 mil career earnings too.
5 years, $89 mil would put Melo at the exact same career earnings as Duncan has now! Not bad since he's not as good a player as Duncan anyway.
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7/8/2014  12:33 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”

Lets be fair Crush Duncan is one of the best players to play the game the past 25 years and melo is well...not.
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7/8/2014  12:33 AM
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Uptown wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:I still think that Melo coming here for the max is not gonna happen and just posturing on both sides.

It would be insanely stupid, mainly on Melo's part.

Disagree, how can you blame a player for signing a contract that his boss puts in front of him?


Is that a rhetorical question or you can't think of any reasons why people would blame him?

I understand why people would, but in reality, its unfair to vilify a player and call him selfish for signing a contract to the amount of money he's sloted to make. A slot that was negotiated by the owners and players. The main problem is having a cap on the salary but that's another discussion.

Players are paid to play. GM's /presidents are paid big bucks to put the pieces together and work around the cap. Don't offer me a contract that you don't want me to sign.

So you don't think that he should even take a small discount and give his team a better chance to win?

Do you honestly believe that it is more about the money or ego?

If Phil puts a discounted contract on the table, then Melo wont have a choice. My point is, don't blame the player for taking the money that is being offered to him. If Phil wants him to sign a 5 year 110 mil contract then that's what you put on the table. Don't put 129 mil on the table then get upset and vilify me for signing it.

I disagree. Phil offered Melo the max because Melo required him to.

Its in Melo's court not Phil's.

Phil is saying that if you handcuff me/us then we have no choice but its up to you to make the decision to take less for the good of the team.

When did Melo require the full max on the table? I must have missed that quote.....In the end, its Phil's job as the president to manage the cap, not Melo's. Don't think he's good enough for a max, sign and trade him.....

Its that simple? What were the S&T options?

And, you don't think that Melo needed a max offer from Phil? Of course he did! C'mon.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/8/2014  12:41 AM
So the question was...

Honestly at this point, I don't really care. Pick a team and lets move on.

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7/8/2014  5:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/8/2014  5:20 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”

Good point! 5 years, $69 mil would put Melo over $200 mil career earnings too.
5 years, $89 mil would put Melo at the exact same career earnings as Duncan has now! Not bad since he's not as good a player as Duncan anyway.

Is that how salaries work??? Can you pull up Jordans too, because i think Duncan can play for free now following your strawman(lol)....I guess Melo would have to pay to at that point.


StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”
Lets be fair Crush Duncan is one of the best players to play the game the past 25 years and melo is well...not.

To be fair, when I constantly hear phrases like "to be fair", I understand that hot air and hors**** are coming.......to be fair.

A phrase which should mean something but rarely does when it's used by sports players - especially British soccer players - and radio/TV commentators. You think the speaker is about to offer a balanced point of view - e.g. "I know I'm critical of X, but, to be fair, he is recovering from a bad injury", but most times, they're just trotting out the same dumb platitudes to fill airtime. Interchangeable with "at the end of the day" and "as I say".
To be fair, it is a Wednesday.

To be fair, as I say, I'm talking into a microphone at the end of the day, Gary

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7/8/2014  6:44 AM
Anji wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”

Good point! 5 years, $69 mil would put Melo over $200 mil career earnings too.
5 years, $89 mil would put Melo at the exact same career earnings as Duncan has now! Not bad since he's not as good a player as Duncan anyway.

Is that how salaries work??? Can you pull up Jordans too, because i think Duncan can play for free now following your strawman(lol)....I guess Melo would have to pay to at that point.


StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”
Lets be fair Crush Duncan is one of the best players to play the game the past 25 years and melo is well...not.

To be fair, when I constantly hear phrases like "to be fair", I understand that hot air and hors**** are coming.......to be fair.

A phrase which should mean something but rarely does when it's used by sports players - especially British soccer players - and radio/TV commentators. You think the speaker is about to offer a balanced point of view - e.g. "I know I'm critical of X, but, to be fair, he is recovering from a bad injury", but most times, they're just trotting out the same dumb platitudes to fill airtime. Interchangeable with "at the end of the day" and "as I say".
To be fair, it is a Wednesday.

To be fair, as I say, I'm talking into a microphone at the end of the day, Gary


I'll let Crush handle this since he's the one who thought Duncan's earnings were important enough to post here.
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7/8/2014  7:29 AM
Overwhelming.
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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7/8/2014  7:33 AM
The Fd up thing is you know Melo is going to want an opt out after 2 years so he can try to get another max deal
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7/8/2014  7:37 AM
Jmpasq wrote:The Fd up thing is you know Melo is going to want an opt out after 2 years so he can try to get another max deal

That would not surprise me at all

I really hope it ends soon and we don't have to deal with this ever again.

If not for Phil Jackson I think I'd be rooting for a new team right now. I really can't take this melodrama any more. It's just not fun anymore. I want to be a New York Knicks fan again

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7/8/2014  7:42 AM
Knicksfan wrote:So the question was...

Honestly at this point, I don't really care. Pick a team and lets move on.

This

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7/8/2014  9:05 AM
Melo would want to opt out after two year? LOL. That's rich. In two years and he'll have knee problems and back issues to add to the shoulders.
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7/8/2014  9:48 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Anji wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”

Good point! 5 years, $69 mil would put Melo over $200 mil career earnings too.
5 years, $89 mil would put Melo at the exact same career earnings as Duncan has now! Not bad since he's not as good a player as Duncan anyway.

Is that how salaries work??? Can you pull up Jordans too, because i think Duncan can play for free now following your strawman(lol)....I guess Melo would have to pay to at that point.


StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”
Lets be fair Crush Duncan is one of the best players to play the game the past 25 years and melo is well...not.

To be fair, when I constantly hear phrases like "to be fair", I understand that hot air and hors**** are coming.......to be fair.

A phrase which should mean something but rarely does when it's used by sports players - especially British soccer players - and radio/TV commentators. You think the speaker is about to offer a balanced point of view - e.g. "I know I'm critical of X, but, to be fair, he is recovering from a bad injury", but most times, they're just trotting out the same dumb platitudes to fill airtime. Interchangeable with "at the end of the day" and "as I say".
To be fair, it is a Wednesday.

To be fair, as I say, I'm talking into a microphone at the end of the day, Gary


I'll let Crush handle this since he's the one who thought Duncan's earnings were important enough to post here.

Yeah, Crush, can you get us some of tkf/dtkf's tweets about how Melo set the game back 150 years and isn't worth Landry Field's money? Then follow up with how Lin was a distraught victim forced into signing his contract.

But to be fair...

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7/8/2014  9:51 AM
jrodmc wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
Anji wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”

Good point! 5 years, $69 mil would put Melo over $200 mil career earnings too.
5 years, $89 mil would put Melo at the exact same career earnings as Duncan has now! Not bad since he's not as good a player as Duncan anyway.

Is that how salaries work??? Can you pull up Jordans too, because i think Duncan can play for free now following your strawman(lol)....I guess Melo would have to pay to at that point.


StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
“@EatAllThePizza: @JADubin5 @HPbasketball the best is when guys point to Duncan for taking less when he's made over $200 million dollars”
Lets be fair Crush Duncan is one of the best players to play the game the past 25 years and melo is well...not.

To be fair, when I constantly hear phrases like "to be fair", I understand that hot air and hors**** are coming.......to be fair.

A phrase which should mean something but rarely does when it's used by sports players - especially British soccer players - and radio/TV commentators. You think the speaker is about to offer a balanced point of view - e.g. "I know I'm critical of X, but, to be fair, he is recovering from a bad injury", but most times, they're just trotting out the same dumb platitudes to fill airtime. Interchangeable with "at the end of the day" and "as I say".
To be fair, it is a Wednesday.

To be fair, as I say, I'm talking into a microphone at the end of the day, Gary


I'll let Crush handle this since he's the one who thought Duncan's earnings were important enough to post here.

Yeah, Crush, can you get us some of tkf/dtkf's tweets about how Melo set the game back 150 years and isn't worth Landry Field's money? Then follow up with how Lin was a distraught victim forced into signing his contract.

But to be fair...

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