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RonRon
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7/6/2014  4:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2014  4:39 PM
Unless Laker's can sell Nash to another team or convince him to retire and forgo his 10m contract, I do not see them being a contender this year, and not till Lebron comes over and Kobe is OUT of the picture with that contract

Again, I would like for CA to come at a discount with the opportunity to give us wiggle room in 2015/16 and a player option for 2016-17 in case Durant/Noah in fact are available and we were unable to lure Lebron/Kevin Love to come in 2015
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7/6/2014  4:35 PM
RonRon wrote:Unless Laker's can sell Nash to another team or convince him to retire and forgo his 10m contract, I do not see them being a contender this year, and not till Lebron comes over and Kobe is OUT of the picture with that contract

Again, I would like for CA to come at a discount with the opportunity to give us wiggle room in 2015/16 and a player option for 2016-17 in case Durant/Noah in fact are available and we were unable to lure Lebron/Kevin Love to come in 2015

Can the Lakers use the stretch provision on Nash? Or like amnesty is that only for contracts signed under previous CBA? Anyone know?
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7/6/2014  4:41 PM
If it was my decision, I would easily say LET HIM WALK IF it took a MAX 125m + in order to keep him here
We simply don't have the ability like the teams that are established already are, in order to pay him a max salary like

Houston (they have the asset's with many draft picks and a GREAT CORE in Beverly/Harden/Parsons/Jones/D12
Bulls (if they make some moves needed)

We don't have the draft picks, pieces, multiple defenders to cover his average defense and inabilities

It isn't about what is best for CA
It is about what is best for NYK's

The only reason why I would even consider paying him close to a max is if Lebron was coming in 2015 to team up with him, however, we have no guarantees that will happen either
And for christ sakes, WHAT IF CA is signed to a MAX and gets a shoulder surgery or a freak accident, do you still think Lebron would still consider coming to NYK?

Do you think his black book would consist of talents taking LESS money like Hawes did with The Clippers?

I think Josh McRoberts is a player I would target with the 3.2m MLE or in a trade with the 3.6m trade exemption gained from the Dallas deal
Also Evan Turner is a player I would consider buying LOW on as well, however, NOT on a 1 year deal, at least a 2 year deal and NOT being a player option for 2nd either

We need upgrades in the PG but I see many options out there that are young, talented, and cheap
UNDRAFTED PG's, though we would need to develop them, they could bring much better value, and we have leverage over them with TEAM OPTIONS/UNGUARANTEED MONEY
For the mini MLE or trade exemption for the PG position left
Sessions/Bayless/DJ Augistine/ maybe Vasquez (RFA)

For vet min,

Brian Roberts, not interested in the 30+ players like Ridnour/Steve Blake because I don't see them being relevant in another 2-3 years
Darrius Morris/Tourre Murry
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7/6/2014  4:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2014  4:52 PM
H1AND1 wrote:
RonRon wrote:Unless Laker's can sell Nash to another team or convince him to retire and forgo his 10m contract, I do not see them being a contender this year, and not till Lebron comes over and Kobe is OUT of the picture with that contract

Again, I would like for CA to come at a discount with the opportunity to give us wiggle room in 2015/16 and a player option for 2016-17 in case Durant/Noah in fact are available and we were unable to lure Lebron/Kevin Love to come in 2015

Can the Lakers use the stretch provision on Nash? Or like amnesty is that only for contracts signed under previous CBA? Anyone know?


They cannot amnesty him because any contracts that were given AFTER the new CBA, can not be amnestied
Also, if a player is traded, even if their contracts were given before the new CBA, the player could no longer be amnestied

I believe you can stretch him though, something like 3.3m per year that are on the books for 3 years

The most realistic scenario to me is to either trade Nash with future picks or with Randle to a team under the cap like Philly
Then AMNESTY KOBE Bryant, in hopes of a team picking him up for a decent part of his contract, about 8-12m to save some money

Then make a total rebuild with FREE AGENTS

in

Melo
Lebron

another player

or some combination of players like

Ariza
Deng
Gasol

though ALL OF THE ABOVE would have to likely take a bit less for them to do so
They would be instant favorites if they manage to stay healthy but these moves will cost a lot of money
Lakers are the #2 best team in terms of marketing and weather/business connections


Luckily they have a team option on Kendall Marshall, while they could use the services of Nick Young if he is willing to take one more year of the vet min type money in efforts of being rewarded like JR Smith was after our 54 win season
If he can continue his development like he did last year, it is pretty much a free 1st round pick

As for Robert Sacre, I actually like him as a role player, with his salary, he rebounds/hustles and does dirty work/is quite athletic and mobile
He isn't nearly as bad as some people/posters/analyst point him out to be
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7/6/2014  4:52 PM
Papabear Says

Nice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.

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7/6/2014  4:53 PM
RonRon wrote:
H1AND1 wrote:
RonRon wrote:Unless Laker's can sell Nash to another team or convince him to retire and forgo his 10m contract, I do not see them being a contender this year, and not till Lebron comes over and Kobe is OUT of the picture with that contract

Again, I would like for CA to come at a discount with the opportunity to give us wiggle room in 2015/16 and a player option for 2016-17 in case Durant/Noah in fact are available and we were unable to lure Lebron/Kevin Love to come in 2015

Can the Lakers use the stretch provision on Nash? Or like amnesty is that only for contracts signed under previous CBA? Anyone know?


They cannot amnesty him because any contracts that were given AFTER the new CBA, can not be amnestied
Also, if a player is traded, even if their contracts were given before the new CBA, the player could no longer be amnestied

I believe you can stretch him though, something like 3.3m per year that are on the books for 3 years

The most realistic scenario to me is to either trade Nash with future picks or with Randle to a team under the cap like Philly
Then AMNESTY KOBE Bryant, in hopes of a team picking him up for a decent part of his contract, about 8-12m to save some money

Then make a total rebuild with FREE AGENTS

in

Melo
Lebron

another player

or some combination of players like

Ariza
Deng
Gasol

though ALL OF THE ABOVE would have to likely take a bit less for them to do so
They would be instant favorites if they manage to stay healthy but these moves will cost a lot of money
Lakers are the #2 best team in terms of marketing and weather/business connections


Luckily they have a team option on Kendall Marshall, while they could use the services of Nick Young if he is willing to take one more year of the vet min type money in efforts of being rewarded like JR Smith was after our 54 win season
If he can continue his development like he did last year, it is pretty much a free 1st round pick

As for Robert Sacre, I actually like him as a role player, with his salary, he rebounds/hustles and does dirty work/is quite athletic and mobile
He isn't nearly as bad as some people/posters/analyst point him out to be

Yes, I know he cannot be amnestied but I was wondering whether the stretch provision had the same restriction as the amnesty clause.
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7/6/2014  4:58 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Nice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.

I know you are a big supporter of CA but I really don't know at this point

With "rumors" constantly being....

1- CA max deal

2- then CA possibly taking less for 2015

3- then Laker's appealing to CA with a MAX 4 year deal *I am sure they would also give him a player option*, similar to Heat gave Lebron/Wade/Bosh, player option in 2 years, in year 3 in which Durant/Noah could be UFA's

Then Bulls are back in it with, The Laker's, Bulls, and NYK *being favorites for a MAX DEAL*

I am sick of this drama, Papabear
I would rather him walk for NOTHING than pay him a MAX deal with no wiggle room for at least 2015

Unless, we somehow can guarantee Lebron coming with him, with the ability to move STAT *very possible if we NEVER TRADED FOR AB* and AB
I don't see how we can become contenders with the way we are constructed
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7/6/2014  5:00 PM
Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

Nice post by everyone. Deep down inside you know that he is coming back to New York. It's a done deal.

unless its for a decent paycut most of us wont share your enthusiasm. Sorry papabear
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7/6/2014  5:00 PM
Should Los Angeles Lakers Use Stretch Provision on Steve Nash?
By D.J. Foster , Featured Columnist Mar 18, 2014


Los Angeles Lakers point guard Steve Nash isn't ignorant to what his future holds. He knows the Lakers need someone who can play close to everyday, he knows his body is failing him, and at 40 years old, he knows that bouncing back from injuries and nerve damage isn't going to be easy.

Nash is at a point every player reaches in their career. He has to decide if it's worth all the pain and all the work going forward to fight a decidedly uphill battle.

In Grantland's documentary series "The Finish Line", Nash has been open and honest about his intentions. He wants to leave on his own terms, and he wants to keep playing because of the money.

Nash is due $9.7 million next year. Unless he retires, he'll receive the salary he's due. Nash knows this.

He also knows that the Lakers may use the stretch provision on him, which would allow the Lakers to pay him $3.23 million over the next three seasons instead of in one lump sum.

In Grantland's series, Nash acknowledged what seems like the most likely end to his career.

"I'd imagine that's the outcome," Nash told his agent, Bill Duffy.

"If the Lakers release me this summer this is it. You know, I finally got my kids here in L.A., I'm not going to move them again, and I'm not going to be without them for another year. So, it's either back with the Lakers next year or I'm done."

Essentially, Nash has placed the future of his career with the Lakers. He's planning on playing next year, but if the Lakers do use the stretch provision on him, he'll call it quits.


Nash is making the best financial decision by doing that, and the Lakers might have to follow suit. Here's what Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak told Dave McMenamin of ESPNLosAngeles.com about Nash's situation.

"We have to see where we are next summer," Kupchak said when asked about the possibility of using the stretch provision. "A lot of is going to be based on what Steve says and what we see. If he's out there playing at a high level and he's working during the summer at a high level, that'll be a factor in what we do."

Even if Nash looks good in workouts, it's going to be tough for the Lakers to justify hanging on to him at the price point of $9.7 million.

Lakers head coach Mike D'Antoni has shown plenty of times in the past that he can take unheralded point guards like Jeremy Lin and Kendall Marshall and turn them into productive players in his system. With that in mind, it's not clear how much of an upgrade Nash would be over Marshall or another pickup, even if he were to enjoy consistent health at his advanced age.

Basically, point guard is the one position the Lakers really can't afford to pay a major salary to at this stage.


That being said, Nash would have at least some value as an expiring contract next year if the Lakers chose to keep him on board. While it's highly doubtful a team would be acquiring him for his play, the Lakers could use Nash as a salary match or relief for a team looking to get rid of a long-term deal.

The main issue with that, however, is that the Lakers would then have about $6 million less in free agency to play with. Because of the size of Kobe Bryant's two-year contract extension worth $48.5 million, every bit of available cap space is important if the Lakers want to attract premium talent this offseason.

With Nash's full salary on the books, that becomes more difficult, particularly if the goal is a veteran max player like Carmelo Anthony.

According to Bleacher Report's Kevin Ding, however, signing a max free agent this offseason may not be the priority.

To Kupchak, paying maximum dollars to star players who the Lakers are not certain can deliver championship performances would be bad business—and is, in fact, exactly what has happened in New York with the Knicks struggling despite having Carmelo Anthony.

So don’t expect to see Anthony or Chris Bosh—if he opts out of his Miami Heat contract—getting epic offers from the Lakers.

Even if the Lakers don't have plans of going after max players, it makes sense to leave the door open. Besides, cap space provides flexibility, even if it's not going to be used on a free agent. For example, the Utah Jazz were able to land two future first-round picks last season from the Golden State Warriors just for taking on a few big expiring deals.

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Simply put, the best case scenario with Nash just isn't good enough. Even if he and Bryant magically return to the level they were playing at three years ago, then what? Will the Lakers have enough to contend for a title in a stacked Western Conference? Probably not.

It's hard to say it, but the $6 million in cap space gained by stretching Nash offers a higher ceiling than Nash does, even if eats into the 2015 offseason cap room a bit. The Lakers need to find ways to restock the cupboard and play for the future, and stretching Nash can present opportunities to accomplish that.

Effectively ending the career of a legend like Nash won't be fun or easy, but it's what's best for business.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1997530-should-los-angeles-lakers-use-stretch-provision-on-steve-nash
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7/6/2014  5:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2014  5:59 PM
With Lebron's agent meeting with

Lakers
Cleveland
Bulls
Dallas
Suns

And CA's interest in Laker's

It is very possible that The Laker's would somehow find a way to get both

Lebron and Melo

in addition to the rumor of Phil Jackson offering a MAX contract to CA and he is still hesitant
it is very possible that they are considering the possibly of trading Kobe, stretching or entice Nash to retire (by offering him a 5 year, 25m, Head COACHING JOB like Fisher/Kerr/Kidd recently got with their teams

Then go after UFA's like

Ariza returning to LA LAKER's
Deng playing a Battier type role
Gasol resigning

lets say

20m - 18m Melo with a player option for next season and 2016-17
20m - 18m Lebron with a player option for next season and 2016-17

or

a trade for Kevin Love with Randle and his contract is only about 15-16m, leaving more wiggle room
a trade for either Dragic/Bledsoe

7-8m Ariza
5-8m Deng

rest going to Pau Gasol anywhere form 5-8m

or

Jordan Hill/Channing Frye signed instead, with Josh McRoberts being a even cheaper option instead

2m LLE or Bi Annual Exemption to use on another player,

possibly PG like Sessions/Bayless/Mo Williams, which would be less than their "value" though would be very enticing to play with that level of talent for a 2 year deal

At G/F, SF, Ray Allen/ Evan Turner/ Mike Miller

Kris Humphries/Jermaine Oneil/Amir Johnson *team option from Toronto*


In addition to the development of Kendall Marshall on a team option, while targeting a combination of undrafted PG's like

DeAndre Kane
Deonte Burton
Sean Kilpatrick

vet min's include

Darrius Morris/Toure Murry
Ridnour/Steve Blake/Brian Roberts

Nick Young coming back on a 2 year player option to get rewarded like JR Smith was
Wesley Johnson, Ebanks/ Donte Green/ Chris Johnson ex Grizzlies/Boston

Rashard Lewis
James Johnson
Luke Babbit

stretch PF/C in BJ Mullens/ Ryan Kelly on a 2 year player option *so he get's early bird rights for next season*

Kmart/ Chris Johnson *ex Twolve* or Jordan Hendrix
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smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:

According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-lakers-emerge-as-contenders-for-carmelo-anthony-1404674407?KEYWORDS=chris+herring

I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?

How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!

Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....

because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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7/6/2014  7:17 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2014  8:10 PM
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:

According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-lakers-emerge-as-contenders-for-carmelo-anthony-1404674407?KEYWORDS=chris+herring

I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?

How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!

Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....

because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?

DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.

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Simple. Melo can take all the M&Ms in the bowl but if he wants to have friends over, he should leave some M&M's for them.

Melo said he'd would not eat all the M&M's if Pau or Lebron would come over. When Phil said this Melo got upset cuz he wants to be "They guy that gave his friends M&M's".

Thursday, Phil went to Costco and got a big bag of M&M's. He said Melo could have them all. Melo wants the M&M's and got sad when Uncle Phil told him his friends would not come over and play if he ate them all.


sources then said there was an uncomfortable silence. Melo then said to PHil: just get another bag of M&M's? PHil said: Knicks can only buy one bag, but if Melo wanted to (Yes, third person in the room) then he can buy more and give him to his friends.

Melo got upset again. Phil then got out an Apple pie and started cutting it into pieces. La La got Phils attention and told phil to not do that given Melo was already confused. She said in private Melo would have wanted both Pie and M&M's and if he has too much sugar he can't stop smiling.
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ESPN reports there is a "strong" possibility that LeBron and Melo join Kobe in LA.

Not sure if this is accurate. It was retweeted by one of the guys on Knickswag.
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7/6/2014  10:00 PM
Melo wants the whole bag, so does Melo. Kobe already has his bag.

The three of them can play, but won't they need other players besides Randle, Nash and Sacre???

What about peanut M&M's?
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BigRedDog wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:

According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-lakers-emerge-as-contenders-for-carmelo-anthony-1404674407?KEYWORDS=chris+herring

I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?

How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!

Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....

because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?

DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.

some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.

what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?

and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?

simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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7/6/2014  10:10 PM
dk7th wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:

According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-lakers-emerge-as-contenders-for-carmelo-anthony-1404674407?KEYWORDS=chris+herring

I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?

How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!

Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....

because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?

DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.

some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.

what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?

and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?

simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?

Is this civil or is it taking rumors and running with it to trash a guy that you enjoy trashing?
because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?
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dk7th wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
dk7th wrote:
Uptown wrote:
smackeddog wrote:So the latest explanation for the sudden interesting LA is apparently this:

According to a person familiar with the situation, Anthony felt as if he got mixed signals from the New York Knicks during his meeting with the team on Thursday. While Anthony and his camp were told that he could have a maximum contract if he wanted it, a source said, team president Phil Jackson continued to preach the virtues of taking less than the maximum—a message that left Anthony questioning whether the max offer was sincere.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/los-angeles-lakers-emerge-as-contenders-for-carmelo-anthony-1404674407?KEYWORDS=chris+herring

I'm sorry, is Melo an idiot? A shameless hypocrite? A BS artist? Or is he just trying to try and shift the blame to NY because he's chosen to go elsewhere?

How can you go on record as saying it's not about money, and you'll take a pay cut if it means winning, then when the team offers you the max but says if you take less they can build more of a winning team, pretend like your confused and disrespected?!

Where are the actual quotes from Melo? Can't believe you guys have such strong reactions to media speculation, third-fourth hand info and thinking out loud reports.....

because he has a posse, handlers, an entourage and they're all bitches who can't keep quiet. and they're collectively an extension of the primadonna himself. do you really want this dewd in a knick uniform?

DK7 u really have NO clue where any of this sheet is coming from. Just another reason to bust on Melo. Ur posts sound like u are getting more and more desperate as the decision is coming. I hope if Melo resigns u take ur azz somewhere else. I for one am getting tired of this biased bullsheet coming from u.

some have said that rumor is a subset of propaganda and propaganda has an agenda behind it, to persuade the gullible masses of said agenda. i think this is a very transparent instance of this age-old phenomenon.

what do you believe is melo's agenda here? or is the notion of rumor and propaganda unfamiliar?

and if you are familiar with it, do you condone it?

simple questions asked in a most civil way. can you respond with civility?

Maybe I am naive but I don't believe this propaganda is coming from Melo directly. I really think its just the media making crap up just to sell their crap. If u want to rip Melo why not wait a day or so for the decision to come down instead of reacting to stupid rumors?

fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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7/6/2014  11:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/6/2014  11:33 PM
I dunno man -- supposedly Melo and Kobe spotted playing a pick up game together at UCLA sometime earlier today per Ian Begley. Honestly, I think he's gone. I think LA brings back Pau Gasol and plan on assembling a team featuring Kobe/Melo/Gasol at the top. They probably think that's good enough for a chip. I certainly don't but whatever, let them delude themselves...Funny thing, I kinda think it's for the best now, even if we don't get a thing back for him. Honestly, $129mm for a 30-year-old with 2 bad shoulders, a ton of mileage on that body and an incomplete game just doesn't feel right to me. Still wanna try to get something for him -- ANYTHING! -- but if that's truly not in the cards, if this dude willing to just walk out on us to go team up with his boy Kobe, I say let him go and let's turn the page.

Funny -- when LeBron was a FA, I was waiting with bated breath on his "decision," as absurd as it was. Remember all the hype about him coming here, even the day of: LeBron spotted in Conn. where Allan Houston supposedly has a house, Jared Dudley saying on twitter that he was coming to NY, blah, blah, blah...I honestly thought he was coming here. I bought into all the hype. After all, he was/still is the best player in the sport. Of course I was geeked up and excited, like everyone else. I gotta tell ya man -- I don't feel anywhere near the same level of excitement over Melo's decision. I mean if this dude stays, ok he stays...What's next, Phil? We won 37 games with this guy last year, he's gonna take the max with 2 bad shoulders, we never got past the 2nd round since he's been here and we're over the cap for the time being (meaning this year will pretty much be a transition year until we step into same major cap relief with no guarantees, he'll then be a year older, etc....And then a lot of people aren't really excited about next summer's FA class anyway)...And if he goes, ok. Good luck buddy. Maybe we should consider ourselves lucky...I dunno man -- anyone else out there kinda feel the same way?
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I have never felt that is to our advantage to keep him. I would be seriously disappointed if we give him the max and he takes it. Despite all reports it still looks like Phil is asking him to take lead while also saying the max is out there which at least shows me we haven't come out and formally offered it to him.

He won't win anything in LA, I thought he had fervent shot at Chicago but he isn't smart enough to take led money and go there.

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