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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
7/8/2014 5:09 AM
If we traded Shump with Amar'e, it leaves us with zero defense in the backcourt:
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
7/8/2014 6:48 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:CrushAlot wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:Its interesting how Philly and Utah are treating free agency though. They aren't using free agency to sign free agents. They are using free agency and there massive cap space to add unwanted short term contracts to acquire assets.They immediately get an asset and have the potential of doubling up if they end up moving these vets to contenders at the trade deadline. It would be good practice to not add contracts that take up future cap space unless we're getting a great player also. |
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/8/2014 10:00 AM
EnySpree wrote:I'm thinking this might be a plan b type deal if Melo signs elsewhere. Thaddeus Young would be a nice piece.I forgot they also got Jerami Grant and KJ Mc Daniel in the second round. Getting either of those guys thrown in would be great. I thought both might go in the first round. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27405 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
7/8/2014 10:01 AM
EnySpree wrote:I'm thinking this might be a plan b type deal if Melo signs elsewhere. Thaddeus Young would be a nice piece. +1. Once he learns how to shoot, he'll be a monster. |
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smackeddog
Posts: 38391 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
7/8/2014 10:51 AM
EnySpree wrote:smackeddog wrote:If we traded Shump with Amar'e, it leaves us with zero defense in the backcourt: He's better than Tim Jr and Calderon! Shump seemed to motivate/inspire the team to play better defense when he started playing good defense. He took a step back last year, but before that he was capable of being a good defender. |
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38419 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
7/8/2014 10:58 AM
I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.
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dwiley20
Posts: 20756 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 2/18/2014 Member: #5755 |
7/8/2014 1:00 PM
smackeddog wrote:If we traded Shump with Amar'e, it leaves us with zero defense in the backcourt: ugh thats very ugly situation.....i think we should keep them....its all about the coach n system to have ball hog melo in that can work to amares advantage...hardaway is pathetic on d n is soft...omg....we need to keep amare n shump,,,amare has added alot of muscles and can bang in the post like bargs can also |
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fishmike
Posts: 53864 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/8/2014 1:29 PM
NYKBocker wrote:I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.what if he is giving you 15/6 off the bench and shooting 55% and playing a great P&R next to Larkin and the Knicks are leading the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East. Still trade him? I think we could see that scenario.. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27405 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
7/8/2014 1:31 PM LAST EDITED: 7/8/2014 1:32 PM
fishmike wrote:NYKBocker wrote:I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.what if he is giving you 15/6 off the bench and shooting 55% and playing a great P&R next to Larkin and the Knicks are leading the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East. Still trade him? I think we could see that scenario.. The pick and roll is de-emphasized in the triangle in lieu of better floor spacing and coordinated player movement. That right there is why Amar'e should be on the block. |
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
7/8/2014 1:45 PM
I think melo is waiting to see what kind of deal phil maybe able to swing, and then that will dictate what kind of contract he will sign.
Thats why stat is now been shopped to a team with major cap space, everyone trying to dump a salary to gain a star is calling phili.. ES
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fishmike
Posts: 53864 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/8/2014 1:52 PM
NardDogNation wrote:they have already said it wont be a pure triangle and Fish is free to put his own wrinkles in. Also Larkin was literally the best P&R PG in college, if you what your saying is true makes his aquisition puzzling.fishmike wrote:NYKBocker wrote:I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.what if he is giving you 15/6 off the bench and shooting 55% and playing a great P&R next to Larkin and the Knicks are leading the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East. Still trade him? I think we could see that scenario.. I suspect the Amare thing is just a feel it out. We all know he's not a part of the future here so its just a matter of time. The question is when and does PHil try to get something out of him first? Then again maybe he stays as bench guy for years like McDyess did in Det. Anything is possible at this point. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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NYKBocker
Posts: 38419 Alba Posts: 474 Joined: 1/14/2003 Member: #377 USA |
7/8/2014 2:16 PM
fishmike wrote:NYKBocker wrote:I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.what if he is giving you 15/6 off the bench and shooting 55% and playing a great P&R next to Larkin and the Knicks are leading the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East. Still trade him? I think we could see that scenario.. Great question. I guess it depends on what we are getting back. If you sell, might as well sell high. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53864 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/8/2014 2:24 PM
NYKBocker wrote:tough one... but I can really see Amare having a bounce back season. He works crazy hard. If he's playing really well and the Knicks are a top 4 seed what do you do? Gotta figure we stand pat but that would be selling high!fishmike wrote:NYKBocker wrote:I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.what if he is giving you 15/6 off the bench and shooting 55% and playing a great P&R next to Larkin and the Knicks are leading the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East. Still trade him? I think we could see that scenario.. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27405 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
7/8/2014 2:32 PM
fishmike wrote:NYKBocker wrote:tough one... but I can really see Amare having a bounce back season. He works crazy hard. If he's playing really well and the Knicks are a top 4 seed what do you do? Gotta figure we stand pat but that would be selling high!fishmike wrote:NYKBocker wrote:I would rather use Stat as an asset to get something in return at the trade deadline. That HUGE expiring contract is going to be great come February.what if he is giving you 15/6 off the bench and shooting 55% and playing a great P&R next to Larkin and the Knicks are leading the Atlantic and are 3rd in the East. Still trade him? I think we could see that scenario.. The concern about Amar'e has never been his game. It's been his health. 20 consecutive game of good play won't dissuade the skeptics. |