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tkf
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4/21/2014  11:31 AM
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/21/2014  11:58 AM
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

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4/21/2014  12:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2014  12:01 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.


Come on, man. That's just personal attacking without an actual argument backed by supporting evidence. Some of TKF's views are out there but empty attacking like that brings the forum down.
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4/21/2014  1:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2014  1:28 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/21/2014  1:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2014  1:44 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.


Come on, man. That's just personal attacking without an actual argument backed by supporting evidence. Some of TKF's views are out there but empty attacking like that brings the forum down.

It's definetly not a personal attack, but some people don't realize what they have until it's gone. Then i'm so ick of hering that the knicks will have to give melo the max, and he's saying over and over again that he's willing to take less to get better supporting talent.

Not only that, no one seems to be considering the amount of gutting any team acquiring him will have to do just to get him, which his essential rebuiling. they make it seem like the KNICKS is his last option, when he's said more then a scratch CD, that he wants to stay in NY..

I hate Melo ball just as bad as any other fan, but im smart enough to see that MELO ball was woodsons idea, and that his talent it one of the best we have in the NBA. To say that I would prefer a bunch of role players, and a few unknown draft picks for his talent is not smart IMO..

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4/21/2014  1:47 PM
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

He's top 5 at his position, how can that be dumb..NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

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Melon ain't goin nowhere unless NY tells melon they may be in tanking mode and not so the year after,
If melon gets word they try to redeem nyk team by making 2014/2015 NBA playoffs and and show Carmelo then he stays at least 1 yr option
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4/21/2014  2:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/21/2014  2:54 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

He's top 5 at his position, how can that be dumb..NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

ROFL!!! now you back tracking.. top 5 at his position... who cares!!! that is a far cry from top 5 player.. you can be top 5 at your position and be the 24th best player in the league.. you know that right?

let me ask you this... what has any of that Done for the KNICKS?


NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

Paul George....and loul deng.. I like guys who can defend..

but that is not the problem.. I can name you some top 5 PG's, SG's, PF's and Centers I would take ahead of him as well..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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4/21/2014  3:26 PM
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

He's top 5 at his position, how can that be dumb..NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

ROFL!!! now you back tracking.. top 5 at his position... who cares!!! that is a far cry from top 5 player.. you can be top 5 at your position and be the 24th best player in the league.. you know that right?

let me ask you this... what has any of that Done for the KNICKS?


NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

Paul George....and loul deng.. I like guys who can defend..

but that is not the problem.. I can name you some top 5 PG's, SG's, PF's and Centers I would take ahead of him as well..


Top 5 SF on the Knicks!
Just kidding
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4/21/2014  3:53 PM
It's interesting because...

1. The best-case scenario is retaining Melo at a digestable number (say, 15-17 million per) so you can afford a couple of more max contracts and have him in place to help with free agent gathering in 2015...

AND

2. The worst-case scenario is paying him 130 million dollars and sinking salary cap space and flexibility for 5 seasons.

As far as trades go, Houston is probably the best partner. I don't think Chicago will go the sign-and-trade route because they're waiting on Rose and are in position to dismantle in the event he doesn't get back to form. I also hate Gibson's contract. Lin/Asik/filler is much better because Asik is a cheap rotational player in the long-term and he makes Tyson Chandler replacable if I can trade him for a pick.

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4/21/2014  3:54 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

He's top 5 at his position, how can that be dumb..NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

ROFL!!! now you back tracking.. top 5 at his position... who cares!!! that is a far cry from top 5 player.. you can be top 5 at your position and be the 24th best player in the league.. you know that right?

let me ask you this... what has any of that Done for the KNICKS?


NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

Paul George....and loul deng.. I like guys who can defend..

but that is not the problem.. I can name you some top 5 PG's, SG's, PF's and Centers I would take ahead of him as well..


Top 5 SF on the Knicks!
Just kidding

seriously.. who else do we have at SF on the knicks?
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4/21/2014  4:10 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

you aren't going to get melo to mature. that's a big assumption, and i am sure jackson will consider that lack of potential if he makes an offer to extend melo. but then jackson has to also feel comfortable that melo is teachable, coachable, a genuine student of the game, and will dedicate himself to getting in supreme shape. i haven't seen it so i am pessimistic.

personally if i thought melo were smarter he might be able to be a wing in the triangle-- the midpost position is out of the question with him-- but jackson is going to make that judgement. personally i hope they let melo walk unless he agrees to play for 12-13 million. jackson should not be thinking what the market will bear, although i am sure melo would be, seeing how greedy he has been-- we should be thinking about what is the absolute best thing for the knicks for a change. paying carmelo 14-17 million and hoping he can learn the triangle seems like a very dubious proposition.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/21/2014  4:10 PM
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

I'm calling BS on the bolded! No one here characterizes that description....

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4/21/2014  4:25 PM
tkf wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

He's top 5 at his position, how can that be dumb..NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

ROFL!!! now you back tracking.. top 5 at his position... who cares!!! that is a far cry from top 5 player.. you can be top 5 at your position and be the 24th best player in the league.. you know that right?

let me ask you this... what has any of that Done for the KNICKS?


NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

Paul George....and loul deng.. I like guys who can defend..

but that is not the problem.. I can name you some top 5 PG's, SG's, PF's and Centers I would take ahead of him as well..


Top 5 SF on the Knicks!
Just kidding

seriously.. who else do we have at SF on the knicks?

Pual george and lou deng..Don't make me laugh, lou deng was sold for a bag of rocks, and paul george while is a solid defender, has been missing in action, and there's been a slew of indi fans that will agree with me.

I like defense just as much, but niether of those guys are top flight defenders (maybe george, deng can stay healthy). melo takes both of them one on one easy and you know it..

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4/21/2014  6:47 PM
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

Papabear Says

TKF you better get use to it. Why do you think Dolan bought Jackson in for? To get Melo signed. If the Knicks had a 50/50 season Jackson would not be here. Melo is the top priority. Listen to what the man sez. Melo will still be a Knick when you are still crying about the Pacers.

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4/21/2014  6:52 PM
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
tkf wrote:
alwaysaknick wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
tkf wrote:
JS3 wrote:He can go where Woody goes...
And i love Melo.

You can see that the personal that Jackson is bringing is a combination of Bulls, and Lakers staff, this is the first selling point for Melo.

The second, a new coach, new system and new role players that will support Melo, as he plays the role of Jordan/Bryant.

If all the above is not enough for Melo, yes, he can leave NY, just let us know as soon as you can, you screwed us once in the mid season, you eff owe us

It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...

yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....

I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?


Really?
It's like saying "I love the Knicks but they suck right now". Saying "I love Melo" doesn't mean he puts him above the team. You had your favorite player before the trade. Were you more a fan of his or a fan of the Knicks?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

not sure how saying " I love the knicks but they suck" applies to anything that is said here.... my point is, how can you love a player that has sabotaged your team? sorry man but that analogy sucks... doesn't apply..

My favorite player doesn't even play on the knicks.. I had players I liked, when they were traded, I still wanted what was best for the knicks...,I would never want whats best for a player over the team... you have a problem with that?

Melo's a sore topic here to say the least and sometimes posters feel the need to preface that they don't actually hate him in order to no be lumped in with a certain crowd.

well the problem is people lumping people.. maybe if we focus more on the topics and less on what posters like, and who they are, this would not be a problem...

the point is, if you are a fan of the team, you should not be worrying about how people feel about one player.. carmelo should not be a sore topic, but he is because people are trying to force some knicks fans from expressing their displeasure with him and how he has pretty much hurt this franchise with how he got here, his lack of leadership and his big MOUTH!!


It's not just you, but I find it funny with a lot of fans who will profess their love for melo.. "and I love melo" "I love melo" "don't get me wrong I love melo"...
yet yall will say in the next breath things like, "You screwed us in the mid season" ... well how can you love a player that screws your team.. and he has done so more than just once....
I thought we were supposed to be knicks fans first.... which is why I say, I don't think some knick fans care if the knicks win, just as long as they win with someone " leading the knicks" " dragging us into the playoffs" "carrying us on his back".. what the hell ever happened to rooting for a team full of good players who play for each other..and win?

Does this sound the post of a person whos not worried about how people feel about one player?


NO.. it sounds like a person who is confused as to why people can't grasp the fact that if you are a knick fan, that should be the most important thing.... for example teamball since you seem to not get whats going on here..

If I say the KNICKS suck.. rarely do I get any opposition, maybe a few here and there..

If i say carmelo is a playoff loser..(which is a DAMN FACT) I get basically what amounts to internet death threats... see the difference?

I don't care if you love carmelo... I actually sympathize with some of his fans.. but don't tell me I am not a fan because I don't like this dude.. I have stated why I don't like him and why I don't want him on this team, and it is all basketball related.. I dislike him because I like the knicks more.. this clown, JR smith are at the bottom of my basketball list.. and for good reasons..

Great post.

Same here, I was always accused by other fans from other forums that I personally have a dispute with Melo and in fact, we just care for the TEAM.

yea, and those fans are the extremist.. they seem to care more about the knicks as long as carmelo "leads" the way.. it is odd.. If any player I feel is hurting my team... I want him gone... there will be no love for that player....

The Idea of some or you wanted to get rid of a top 5 talent, now that he has the right guy in place to help in mature and take his game to the next leverl, is about as dumb as he gets.

THE FACT that you keep referring to him as a top 5 talent is even dumber....

The term top 5 talent is just being thrown around.... and it is reaching a level of ridiculousness that is becoming epic...

He's top 5 at his position, how can that be dumb..NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

ROFL!!! now you back tracking.. top 5 at his position... who cares!!! that is a far cry from top 5 player.. you can be top 5 at your position and be the 24th best player in the league.. you know that right?

let me ask you this... what has any of that Done for the KNICKS?


NAME me another SF that you would take after LBJ and KD

Paul George....and loul deng.. I like guys who can defend..

but that is not the problem.. I can name you some top 5 PG's, SG's, PF's and Centers I would take ahead of him as well..

Papabear Says

Your opinion regarding Melo is irrelevant it means nothing, you hate the man above and beyond the sport.

Papabear
I think melo is gone

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