dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

dk7th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

misterearl wrote:News reporters and beat writers in New York hype Kevin Love because they have little understanding of building a cohesive roster. They promote headline and star power over strategy and good basketball.

Red Holzman would not listen to any of them.

One piece does not make a team. Choose the wrong centerpiece and you pay a steep price.

agree with all but one word. Choice.

what centerpieces have the Knicks had to choose from before Melo? I guess we saw Houston, Marbury, and Curry and McDyess and those were obviously poor choices, but were there other choices? Aside from draft and hope?

If you have talent the challenge is to maximize its impact on the court. We got close last year with all the vets and shooters on this roster and Melo responded with a scoring title, 54 wins and 3rd in MVP votes.

One guy can steer the ship but its a team thing.

acquiring melo was a poor choice. dolan should have allowed walsh to pass on the deal and then wait to acquire a complete player.

in your incredibly narrow opinion which contradicts sportswriters, broadcasters and other career basketball people

Dk.. Is Amare a complete player? Just wondering as he's Walsh's trademart aquisition. Also Walsh had Joe Johnson targeted for MAX money. Is Joe a max player?

neither are complete players. difference is that stat was acquired for money as a free agent. i have always advocated that if a team must acquire an incomplete or deeply flawed player that it be done only through free agency.

johnson is overpaid and it would have been a mistake to acquire him in a trade but as a free agent it would have been a manageable situation. the melo situation is unmanageable... or are you still in denial?

total denial. Was the situation managable last year? Or did Melo create all these problems himself this year? Maybe go further back? Was Melo responsible for Eddie Curry situation? Marbury? Larry Brown? Im SURE you hold him responsible for not resigning Lin, including picks in a trade for Bargs, JRs weed suspension, the total drop in Felton's play.. hey, let not make this too easy for you to twist. Lets talk about this year vs last and you can assign blame to Melo and the Melo "situation" accordingly.

What one of these is a result of the "unmanagable Melo sitation" ?????

1) Felton's massive drop in play resulting in being written as the worst starting PG in the NBA
2) JR's weed suspension followed by 2 mos of 35% shooting after being 6th man of year last year
3) Trading a key shooter and including picks in a trade for Bargs
4) Shump's regression (how many scoreless games this year?)

Feel free to list other reason this team is 100x worse than last and assign blame to Melo accordingly. Lets have your list there mr. Im smarter than the folks who vote the ALL NBA team, at least once I realized they put Melo in front of Paul George... lets have it there Jerry West

felton's drop in play is due more to his personal issues than what melo has done, but melo's announcing before the season started that he wanted to test free agency is not going to inspire felton to play up to his full potential. it's one thing to do your job and another to show up to a lost cause 82 times.

jr smith is a clown. that's on him mostly but melo, being the non-leader, non-mentor, non-committal type of guy he is, doesn't help clowns become less clownish.

trading away copeland and novak was grunwald's responsibility, but woodson is a big factor there since he disliked both these players. that's on woodson and grunwald, not melo.

shump's regression has nothing to do with melo, except he sees the hypocrisy, cronyism, and favoritism and as a young man with i presume a conscience is adversly affected by the malaise and dysfunction of the franchise-- of which melo is a key contributor.

LMAO!!!!! You did it!!! You found a way to blame Melo for others short comings! Your blind hate has made your posts delusional!!!!

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:when you are done laughing maybe you can answer whether the knicks imploded this season?

I'd let it go. If someone isn't willing to say that you and TKF by large were more correct than anyone else here in a year where you predicted disaster and the team is .350, then they never will.

They predict disaster every year...And you at back to team percentage huh...u paused last year...

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:when you are done laughing maybe you can answer whether the knicks imploded this season?

I'd let it go. If someone isn't willing to say that you and TKF by large were more correct than anyone else here in a year where you predicted disaster and the team is .350, then they never will.

They predict disaster every year...And you at back to team percentage huh...u paused last year...

I don't know what you mean by pause but they've still been more right than anyone else.
Maybe just take notes instead of calling them names (comment not aimed at you specifically but several here)

Year before last you quoted Mr. .470 constantly and stopped(paused)..Now you are quoting winning percentages again??..Guess quoting .659 isn't as much fun..Those two are constantly moving the goal post..dk7 predicted the Knicks would finish 3-7th seed last year..When they finished 2nd he claimed it was a "disappointing year"...He felt the Knicks should have beat Indy...He said losing 4-2 to Indy was an annihilation...I'm glad at least you have a handle on what he means and when he is actually right...

Last year they lived but it was certainly an aberration.

How can anyone predict such a high seed with Felton + 2 oldies as your PG? JR having a career year (wonder why) ...

Living and dying with the chuck when the chuckers are notoriously bad shooters is not winning basketball.

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:when you are done laughing maybe you can answer whether the knicks imploded this season?

I'd let it go. If someone isn't willing to say that you and TKF by large were more correct than anyone else here in a year where you predicted disaster and the team is .350, then they never will.

They predict disaster every year...And you at back to team percentage huh...u paused last year...

I don't know what you mean by pause but they've still been more right than anyone else.
Maybe just take notes instead of calling them names (comment not aimed at you specifically but several here)

Year before last you quoted Mr. .470 constantly and stopped(paused)

I think the team's been around .510 in the Melo era.

It's the Melo era when the rest of the team don't show up...

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:when you are done laughing maybe you can answer whether the knicks imploded this season?

I'd let it go. If someone isn't willing to say that you and TKF by large were more correct than anyone else here in a year where you predicted disaster and the team is .350, then they never will.

Uptown was laughing at DK blaming feltons horrendous play, jr's immaturity, and shump's regression all on Melo. You're a pretty rational guy Bonn. You can't actually agree with that.

Well Bonn knows that based on the larger sample size, these players sucked their whole careers.

And I am sure he knows that Shumpert has been awful offensively since his college days.

Tyson also had his best years with Melo so I guess he would have to give that credit somewhat to Melo.

Melo can make the team better though by taking higher percentage shots. If he would pass up those contested long 2's then by default his assist numbers would rise.

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:when you are done laughing maybe you can answer whether the knicks imploded this season?

I'd let it go. If someone isn't willing to say that you and TKF by large were more correct than anyone else here in a year where you predicted disaster and the team is .350, then they never will.

Uptown was laughing at DK blaming feltons horrendous play, jr's immaturity, and shump's regression all on Melo. You're a pretty rational guy Bonn. You can't actually agree with that.

you are distorting through false generalizations. homey don't play dat

dk7th wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

dk7th wrote:when you are done laughing maybe you can answer whether the knicks imploded this season?

I'd let it go. If someone isn't willing to say that you and TKF by large were more correct than anyone else here in a year where you predicted disaster and the team is .350, then they never will.

Uptown was laughing at DK blaming feltons horrendous play, jr's immaturity, and shump's regression all on Melo. You're a pretty rational guy Bonn. You can't actually agree with that.

you are distorting through false generalizations. homey don't play dat

felton's drop in play is due more to his personal issues than what melo has done, but melo's announcing before the season started that he wanted to test free agency is not going to inspire felton to play up to his full potential. it's one thing to do your job and another to show up to a lost cause 82 times.

jr smith is a clown. that's on him mostly but melo, being the non-leader, non-mentor, non-committal type of guy he is, doesn't help clowns become less clownish.

trading away copeland and novak was grunwald's responsibility, but woodson is a big factor there since he disliked both these players. that's on woodson and grunwald, not melo.

shump's regression has nothing to do with melo, except he sees the hypocrisy, cronyism, and favoritism and as a young man with i presume a conscience is adversly affected by the malaise and dysfunction of the franchise-- of which melo is a key contributor.