holfresh wrote:playa2 wrote:CrushAlot wrote:holfresh wrote:playa2 wrote:I'm surprised how many haven't learned from JR playing for the money last yr , but in the end he couldn't sustain it mentally to get big money.Melo isn't a mental midget like JR is, he's more business savvy.
Melo is going to show all he's capable of doing (Reb, play good spot defense, score in bunches) for one season until he gets his big payday from Dolan on his free agency tour.
Why are people so blind, one season of JR balling becoming our 2nd leading scorer trying to play the right way.
That's what this season is all about. The following season he can play however he wants to, the money would have already exchanged hands.
We can't even trade JR now that he has his money.....how soon people forget it's a business for the players too.
If Carmelo Anthony doesn't take less money in his new contract, he's not really trying to win a Championship in NYC playing for the NY Knicks.
I can never understand why people have a view that players should approach this from an altruistic point of view...It is a business for everyone my friends...
Agree. The nba and players association collectively bargained a labor agreement. It is each players job to get the best deal that they can. Unless superstars collude and play in an income tax free state, taking less won't happen.
It comes down to two choices, you back Melo to get all the money he can from Dolan and the knicks, or you want to ask Melo to take less or trade him for more players with the potential 30 million dollars you max Melo with.
You are either for Melo"the businessman" or NewYork Knicks team.
Jordan took less and became a business man OFF THE COURT. No tax breaks in Chicago, he wanted a Championship badly. Melo how bad do you want it ???
There is no gray area.
When did Jordan take less???..I know he was making 30 mil per at the end of his career..
Second thing..Would you take a pay cut at your job because it better for the company so they could hire more people and be more productive...
Third thing..Bron, Bosh, and Wade took about a 2 mil pay cut knowing if the win a ring knowing money would flow back to them in the form of endorsements..Also coupled with the fact the Florida is a tax free state..It's always business..For a pay cut to happen, there has to be a plan in place on what the organizational approach will be so that Melo isn't doing this in vain...It's not a cut and dry situation and many of u think...No one walks away from money in their everyday lives but we(you) expect athletes to do it...
Yes Jordan did make 30m per year, but with each contract, he brought a RING
Also he singed 1 year deals each year, not a LONG term deal at max possible contract, I believe it was 6 or 7 years at the time for a MAX in terms of years contract....
Also, please don't refer to what Jordan did vs what Melo has done in their careers
You cannot compare the 2, one has gotten out of the 1st round twice in their entire careers
The CBA wasn't the same back then, while they had the players around Jordan with role players and great talented players around him with YOUTH as well
We are much limited with this CBA and do not have the players around Melo to build around him if we extend him THIS summer at a max contract
We can all agree that Jordan was better in EVERY ASPECT of the game, made his team mates better, SUPER EFFICIENT at 50% shooting, HIGHLY CLUTCH, HIGHLY MOTIVATED, A GREAT LEADER, and a GREAT DEFENSIVE PLAYER
He was by far the most dominant player #1 player of all time overall in the league in his era and no one came close at his position
He had the ability to defend 3 positions at the very least
Again, you keep talking about building for Melo, what he should do for him
While I bring up what is best for the Knicks
You continue to say we lack talent but have no problem with him taking half the entire cap for one team
But you don't take account to how to fill out the roster so we WOULD NOT be lacking the talent needed to contend
BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, leaving us stuck in mediocrity
So again, do you get a pay cut out of Melo's next contract?
Why do you constantly bring up why he should get even more $$$ than he already is receiving despite the poor results we have gotten in the post season with him....
IF Melo was Jordan, we wouldn't need Kidd's leadership, his team mates would be able to play OFF his abilities as a dominant post option that is highly efficient
You are setting yourself up for BLAMING the lack of talent that would not be able to surround Melo with
In order to get talent we need CAP SPACE and/or draft picks (which we don't have much off)
We need players with GREAT DEFENSIVE ability and good OFFENSIVE ability, which are 2 way players, they DO NOT COME at the veteran minimum
So in a couple of years instead of blaming Chandler, Amare, you will be blaming a vet min player because you think Melo deserves to get his....