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Last night's was a reminder of how good Melo is. We should be talking about how to build around him!
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playa2
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1/26/2014  3:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/26/2014  3:31 PM
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:I'm surprised how many haven't learned from JR playing for the money last yr , but in the end he couldn't sustain it mentally to get big money.

Melo isn't a mental midget like JR is, he's more business savvy.

Melo is going to show all he's capable of doing (Reb, play good spot defense, score in bunches) for one season until he gets his big payday from Dolan on his free agency tour.

Why are people so blind, one season of JR balling becoming our 2nd leading scorer trying to play the right way.

That's what this season is all about. The following season he can play however he wants to, the money would have already exchanged hands.

We can't even trade JR now that he has his money.....how soon people forget it's a business for the players too.

If Carmelo Anthony doesn't take less money in his new contract, he's not really trying to win a Championship in NYC playing for the NY Knicks.

I can never understand why people have a view that players should approach this from an altruistic point of view...It is a business for everyone my friends...

Agree. The nba and players association collectively bargained a labor agreement. It is each players job to get the best deal that they can. Unless superstars collude and play in an income tax free state, taking less won't happen.

It comes down to two choices, you back Melo to get all the money he can from Dolan and the knicks, or you want to ask Melo to take less or trade him for more players with the potential 30 million dollars you max Melo with.

You are either for Melo"the businessman" or NewYork Knicks team.

Jordan took less and became a business man OFF THE COURT. No tax breaks in Chicago, he wanted a Championship badly. Melo how bad do you want it ???


There is no gray area.

When did Jordan take less???..I know he was making 30 mil per at the end of his career..
Second thing..Would you take a pay cut at your job because it better for the company so they could hire more people and be more productive...
Third thing..Bron, Bosh, and Wade took about a 2 mil pay cut knowing if the win a ring knowing money would flow back to them in the form of endorsements..Also coupled with the fact the Florida is a tax free state..It's always business..For a pay cut to happen, there has to be a plan in place on what the organizational approach will be so that Melo isn't doing this in vain...It's not a cut and dry situation and many of u think...No one walks away from money in their everyday lives but we(you) expect athletes to do it...

Jordan was smart took less to sign others when the Pistons kept knocking the Bulls around , this was before he even won his 1st a title.

That's how bad he wanted to win.

Melo is in the media marketing capital of the world, he could make potential crazy money off the court if he and his agent were business like,and made up their minds they want to stay in NY long term and win big.

I would take less money home if my company allowed me to make money working on the side using them as my credibility.

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1/26/2014  3:39 PM
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:I'm surprised how many haven't learned from JR playing for the money last yr , but in the end he couldn't sustain it mentally to get big money.

Melo isn't a mental midget like JR is, he's more business savvy.

Melo is going to show all he's capable of doing (Reb, play good spot defense, score in bunches) for one season until he gets his big payday from Dolan on his free agency tour.

Why are people so blind, one season of JR balling becoming our 2nd leading scorer trying to play the right way.

That's what this season is all about. The following season he can play however he wants to, the money would have already exchanged hands.

We can't even trade JR now that he has his money.....how soon people forget it's a business for the players too.

If Carmelo Anthony doesn't take less money in his new contract, he's not really trying to win a Championship in NYC playing for the NY Knicks.

I can never understand why people have a view that players should approach this from an altruistic point of view...It is a business for everyone my friends...

Agree. The nba and players association collectively bargained a labor agreement. It is each players job to get the best deal that they can. Unless superstars collude and play in an income tax free state, taking less won't happen.

It comes down to two choices, you back Melo to get all the money he can from Dolan and the knicks, or you want to ask Melo to take less or trade him for more players with the potential 30 million dollars you max Melo with.

You are either for Melo"the businessman" or NewYork Knicks team.

Jordan took less and became a business man OFF THE COURT. No tax breaks in Chicago, he wanted a Championship badly. Melo how bad do you want it ???


There is no gray area.

When did Jordan take less???..I know he was making 30 mil per at the end of his career..
Second thing..Would you take a pay cut at your job because it better for the company so they could hire more people and be more productive...
Third thing..Bron, Bosh, and Wade took about a 2 mil pay cut knowing if the win a ring knowing money would flow back to them in the form of endorsements..Also coupled with the fact the Florida is a tax free state..It's always business..For a pay cut to happen, there has to be a plan in place on what the organizational approach will be so that Melo isn't doing this in vain...It's not a cut and dry situation and many of u think...No one walks away from money in their everyday lives but we(you) expect athletes to do it...


Yes Jordan did make 30m per year, but with each contract, he brought a RING
Also he singed 1 year deals each year, not a LONG term deal at max possible contract, I believe it was 6 or 7 years at the time for a MAX in terms of years contract....

Also, please don't refer to what Jordan did vs what Melo has done in their careers
You cannot compare the 2, one has gotten out of the 1st round twice in their entire careers
The CBA wasn't the same back then, while they had the players around Jordan with role players and great talented players around him with YOUTH as well
We are much limited with this CBA and do not have the players around Melo to build around him if we extend him THIS summer at a max contract


We can all agree that Jordan was better in EVERY ASPECT of the game, made his team mates better, SUPER EFFICIENT at 50% shooting, HIGHLY CLUTCH, HIGHLY MOTIVATED, A GREAT LEADER, and a GREAT DEFENSIVE PLAYER
He was by far the most dominant player #1 player of all time overall in the league in his era and no one came close at his position
He had the ability to defend 3 positions at the very least


Again, you keep talking about building for Melo, what he should do for him
While I bring up what is best for the Knicks
You continue to say we lack talent but have no problem with him taking half the entire cap for one team

But you don't take account to how to fill out the roster so we WOULD NOT be lacking the talent needed to contend
BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, leaving us stuck in mediocrity
So again, do you get a pay cut out of Melo's next contract?
Why do you constantly bring up why he should get even more $$$ than he already is receiving despite the poor results we have gotten in the post season with him....
IF Melo was Jordan, we wouldn't need Kidd's leadership, his team mates would be able to play OFF his abilities as a dominant post option that is highly efficient

You are setting yourself up for BLAMING the lack of talent that would not be able to surround Melo with
In order to get talent we need CAP SPACE and/or draft picks (which we don't have much off)
We need players with GREAT DEFENSIVE ability and good OFFENSIVE ability, which are 2 way players, they DO NOT COME at the veteran minimum
So in a couple of years instead of blaming Chandler, Amare, you will be blaming a vet min player because you think Melo deserves to get his....

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1/26/2014  4:28 PM
playa2 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:I'm surprised how many haven't learned from JR playing for the money last yr , but in the end he couldn't sustain it mentally to get big money.

Melo isn't a mental midget like JR is, he's more business savvy.

Melo is going to show all he's capable of doing (Reb, play good spot defense, score in bunches) for one season until he gets his big payday from Dolan on his free agency tour.

Why are people so blind, one season of JR balling becoming our 2nd leading scorer trying to play the right way.

That's what this season is all about. The following season he can play however he wants to, the money would have already exchanged hands.

We can't even trade JR now that he has his money.....how soon people forget it's a business for the players too.

If Carmelo Anthony doesn't take less money in his new contract, he's not really trying to win a Championship in NYC playing for the NY Knicks.

I can never understand why people have a view that players should approach this from an altruistic point of view...It is a business for everyone my friends...

Agree. The nba and players association collectively bargained a labor agreement. It is each players job to get the best deal that they can. Unless superstars collude and play in an income tax free state, taking less won't happen.

It comes down to two choices, you back Melo to get all the money he can from Dolan and the knicks, or you want to ask Melo to take less or trade him for more players with the potential 30 million dollars you max Melo with.

You are either for Melo"the businessman" or NewYork Knicks team.

Jordan took less and became a business man OFF THE COURT. No tax breaks in Chicago, he wanted a Championship badly. Melo how bad do you want it ???


There is no gray area.

When did Jordan take less???..I know he was making 30 mil per at the end of his career..
Second thing..Would you take a pay cut at your job because it better for the company so they could hire more people and be more productive...
Third thing..Bron, Bosh, and Wade took about a 2 mil pay cut knowing if the win a ring knowing money would flow back to them in the form of endorsements..Also coupled with the fact the Florida is a tax free state..It's always business..For a pay cut to happen, there has to be a plan in place on what the organizational approach will be so that Melo isn't doing this in vain...It's not a cut and dry situation and many of u think...No one walks away from money in their everyday lives but we(you) expect athletes to do it...

Jordan was smart took less to sign others when the Pistons kept knocking the Bulls around , this was before he even won his 1st a title.

That's how bad he wanted to win.

Melo is in the media marketing capital of the world, he could make potential crazy money off the court if he and his agent were business like,and made up their minds they want to stay in NY long term and win big.

I would take less money home if my company allowed me to make money working on the side using them as my credibility.

I'm not sure about that..This was another point in his career, but I specifically remember Jordan and Pippen being pissed at Tony Kukoc contract...Bulls signed Kukoc for more money than Jordan and Pippen was making and they took it out on him in the World Games before coming to the Bulls...I would love to see proof that he took less...

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1/26/2014  4:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/26/2014  4:44 PM
RonRon wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
playa2 wrote:I'm surprised how many haven't learned from JR playing for the money last yr , but in the end he couldn't sustain it mentally to get big money.

Melo isn't a mental midget like JR is, he's more business savvy.

Melo is going to show all he's capable of doing (Reb, play good spot defense, score in bunches) for one season until he gets his big payday from Dolan on his free agency tour.

Why are people so blind, one season of JR balling becoming our 2nd leading scorer trying to play the right way.

That's what this season is all about. The following season he can play however he wants to, the money would have already exchanged hands.

We can't even trade JR now that he has his money.....how soon people forget it's a business for the players too.

If Carmelo Anthony doesn't take less money in his new contract, he's not really trying to win a Championship in NYC playing for the NY Knicks.

I can never understand why people have a view that players should approach this from an altruistic point of view...It is a business for everyone my friends...

Agree. The nba and players association collectively bargained a labor agreement. It is each players job to get the best deal that they can. Unless superstars collude and play in an income tax free state, taking less won't happen.

It comes down to two choices, you back Melo to get all the money he can from Dolan and the knicks, or you want to ask Melo to take less or trade him for more players with the potential 30 million dollars you max Melo with.

You are either for Melo"the businessman" or NewYork Knicks team.

Jordan took less and became a business man OFF THE COURT. No tax breaks in Chicago, he wanted a Championship badly. Melo how bad do you want it ???


There is no gray area.

When did Jordan take less???..I know he was making 30 mil per at the end of his career..
Second thing..Would you take a pay cut at your job because it better for the company so they could hire more people and be more productive...
Third thing..Bron, Bosh, and Wade took about a 2 mil pay cut knowing if the win a ring knowing money would flow back to them in the form of endorsements..Also coupled with the fact the Florida is a tax free state..It's always business..For a pay cut to happen, there has to be a plan in place on what the organizational approach will be so that Melo isn't doing this in vain...It's not a cut and dry situation and many of u think...No one walks away from money in their everyday lives but we(you) expect athletes to do it...


Yes Jordan did make 30m per year, but with each contract, he brought a RING
Also he singed 1 year deals each year, not a LONG term deal at max possible contract, I believe it was 6 or 7 years at the time for a MAX in terms of years contract....

Also, please don't refer to what Jordan did vs what Melo has done in their careers
You cannot compare the 2, one has gotten out of the 1st round twice in their entire careers

The CBA wasn't the same back then, while they had the players around Jordan with role players and great talented players around him with YOUTH as well
We are much limited with this CBA and do not have the players around Melo to build around him if we extend him THIS summer at a max contract


We can all agree that Jordan was better in EVERY ASPECT of the game, made his team mates better, SUPER EFFICIENT at 50% shooting, HIGHLY CLUTCH, HIGHLY MOTIVATED, A GREAT LEADER, and a GREAT DEFENSIVE PLAYER
He was by far the most dominant player #1 player of all time overall in the league in his era and no one came close at his position
He had the ability to defend 3 positions at the very least


Again, you keep talking about building for Melo, what he should do for him
While I bring up what is best for the Knicks
You continue to say we lack talent but have no problem with him taking half the entire cap for one team

But you don't take account to how to fill out the roster so we WOULD NOT be lacking the talent needed to contend
BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, leaving us stuck in mediocrity
So again, do you get a pay cut out of Melo's next contract?
Why do you constantly bring up why he should get even more $$$ than he already is receiving despite the poor results we have gotten in the post season with him....
IF Melo was Jordan, we wouldn't need Kidd's leadership, his team mates would be able to play OFF his abilities as a dominant post option that is highly efficient

You are setting yourself up for BLAMING the lack of talent that would not be able to surround Melo with
In order to get talent we need CAP SPACE and/or draft picks (which we don't have much off)
We need players with GREAT DEFENSIVE ability and good OFFENSIVE ability, which are 2 way players, they DO NOT COME at the veteran minimum
So in a couple of years instead of blaming Chandler, Amare, you will be blaming a vet min player because you think Melo deserves to get his....

1. When did I compare Melo and MJ??????
2. When did I say Melo should receive more money than he is receiving????
3. When did I say I had no problem with Melo being half the salary cap???
4. Where have you ever seen me write "what the Knicks should do for Melo"????

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1/26/2014  4:48 PM
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug

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1/26/2014  9:27 PM
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/26/2014  9:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/26/2014  9:53 PM
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...

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1/27/2014  6:13 AM
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...

Do you see me posting about Melo at every occasion ? No but you do and most of your comments are driven by hate making it hard to read and staying neutral

His performance was very good if not more (he broke several records, if Gallo was the one you would have gone crazy) in this specific game only a blind hater can't give him any credit for it ...

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Magic to Melo: Stay in NY
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/53052/magic-melo-should-stay-in-n-y?ex_cid=espnapi_public
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1/27/2014  11:43 AM
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug

I dial into tkf at moments like this just to see what a parody of troll reality he's become. He's actually a pretty funny read now.

I hate to see someone take 30 shots and make 50% of them. It's really not entertaining. And 13 rebounds? jeez, anyone can do that. 10 of 10 from the line, I've seen trained dogs in movies make foul shots.

Yeah, lightning always strikes at least once every day in the NBA.

Haterism, where amazing happens.

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1/27/2014  11:43 AM
Red1976 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...

Do you see me posting about Melo at every occasion ? No but you do and most of your comments are driven by hate making it hard to read and staying neutral

His performance was very good if not more (he broke several records, if Gallo was the one you would have gone crazy) in this specific game only a blind hater can't give him any credit for it ...

why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/27/2014  11:56 AM
tkf wrote:why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

were you impressed with melo at this point in 2013?

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

were you impressed with melo at this point in 2013?


nope.... I was impressed with jason kidd.. as my post back then indicated... he is gone and lookie, lookie... knicks are in the gutter... go figure..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/27/2014  12:20 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

were you impressed with melo at this point in 2013?

No, 12% shooting for 3 months and the inability to make open layups, that impresses him.

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1/27/2014  12:24 PM
tkf wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

were you impressed with melo at this point in 2013?


nope.... I was impressed with jason kidd.. as my post back then indicated... he is gone and lookie, lookie... knicks are in the gutter... go figure..

i completely agree with you that kidd and wallace made a huge difference with this team, but AT THAT TIME... you had no clear VISION of this.
you couldn't sit there with a straight face and say... oh yeah i knew all along that Carmelo was not the reason that this team was playing better.
that would be exactly what people call you...being a hater.

leadership and winning right? you should be impressed with Carmelo and all of the Knicks at that point because you had no idea what was going on in the locker room.

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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1/27/2014  12:28 PM
Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

were you impressed with melo at this point in 2013?


nope.... I was impressed with jason kidd.. as my post back then indicated... he is gone and lookie, lookie... knicks are in the gutter... go figure..

i completely agree with you that kidd and wallace made a huge difference with this team, but AT THAT TIME... you had no clear VISION of this.
you couldn't sit there with a straight face and say... oh yeah i knew all along that Carmelo was not the reason that this team was playing better.
that would be exactly what people call you...being a hater.

leadership and winning right? you should be impressed with Carmelo and all of the Knicks at that point because you had no idea what was going on in the locker room.

Ask him about Gallo's behind the back pass highlight vid. It's a classic.

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1/27/2014  1:13 PM
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...

Do you see me posting about Melo at every occasion ? No but you do and most of your comments are driven by hate making it hard to read and staying neutral

His performance was very good if not more (he broke several records, if Gallo was the one you would have gone crazy) in this specific game only a blind hater can't give him any credit for it ...

why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

Gallo was mentioned within a parenthesis and not the focus of my point. So we can remove Gallo and the main elements of my post stand unchanged

54 wins last year and I was happy (not for the 2nd round exit, but this is not my point here), 17 wins thus far and I'm not happy, but Melo has been playing consistent since last year which invalidates your point about winning, because if this year he is the main culprit for you about the team loosing, last year he surely had some influence with the team winning. One cannot go without the other, or only if Carmelo has no effect at all both on winning and loosing and thus you should be indifferent about him as he has no effect on what matters so much for you ...

This is where you can't pretend to have any credibility talking about Melo. He had a very efficient game, breaking historic records in a win, and you are just unable to give him credit for even one game ? You are not impressed by leadership and winning, just by your own personal agenda with a person you don't even know ...

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Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Cartman718 wrote:
tkf wrote:why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

were you impressed with melo at this point in 2013?


nope.... I was impressed with jason kidd.. as my post back then indicated... he is gone and lookie, lookie... knicks are in the gutter... go figure..

i completely agree with you that kidd and wallace made a huge difference with this team, but AT THAT TIME... you had no clear VISION of this.
you couldn't sit there with a straight face and say... oh yeah i knew all along that Carmelo was not the reason that this team was playing better.
that would be exactly what people call you...being a hater.

leadership and winning right? you should be impressed with Carmelo and all of the Knicks at that point because you had no idea what was going on in the locker room.

well....?

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1/27/2014  2:41 PM
Red1976 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...

Do you see me posting about Melo at every occasion ? No but you do and most of your comments are driven by hate making it hard to read and staying neutral

His performance was very good if not more (he broke several records, if Gallo was the one you would have gone crazy) in this specific game only a blind hater can't give him any credit for it ...

why bring up gallo? again you are focused on the wrong thing... hence the bigger problem with your post.. Actually I never want to see gallo do that.. I would take consistent play and a winning team.. like he has been on.... how about that for a change , or does 17-27 make you happy.. take the game for what it is worth for all It is worth..... This guy doesn't impress me as much as he does you guys.. I am impressed with leadership, and winning...

Gallo was mentioned within a parenthesis and not the focus of my point. So we can remove Gallo and the main elements of my post stand unchanged

54 wins last year and I was happy (not for the 2nd round exit, but this is not my point here), 17 wins thus far and I'm not happy, but Melo has been playing consistent since last year which invalidates your point about winning, because if this year he is the main culprit for you about the team loosing, last year he surely had some influence with the team winning. One cannot go without the other, or only if Carmelo has no effect at all both on winning and loosing and thus you should be indifferent about him as he has no effect on what matters so much for you ...

This is where you can't pretend to have any credibility talking about Melo. He had a very efficient game, breaking historic records in a win, and you are just unable to give him credit for even one game ? You are not impressed by leadership and winning, just by your own personal agenda with a person you don't even know ...

I think dk said it best.. playoffs are the true measuring stick if you are going to be a contender.. 54 wins was nice for the regular season, but there are no trophies for that... champions are born in the playoffs.. we were fools gold... our season was up and down.. hot start, bad middle, ended in a flurry.. that is not the sign of a contender...

This team isn't good.. I could care less if carmelo score 92, that is for the carmelo fan boys.. I thought you guys were knicks fans.. does it matter that this team is 10 games under .500, we don't own a pick in this years draft or the year after? that we don't have any blue chip young players to develop and the so called star of this team, doesn't defend, isn't a leader and is holding this desperate fanbase hostage? it is sad.. so NO!! i don't find it any more imperessive than terrance ross scoring 51 the other night, or chandler parsons Hitting 10 consecutive three point shots in a half... all great individual achievements.. difference is.. Parsons is on a team that is playoff bound.. ross team leads the division.. carmeloser team is out of the playoffs at this point..

As a fan, we should care less of what he does individually...

but NY is looking for a hero.. in all the wrong places..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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1/27/2014  2:45 PM
Papabear wrote:
tkf wrote:
Red1976 wrote:
Marcala12 wrote:
tkf wrote:
Dagger wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:
SJUknicksfan wrote:
tkf wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
tkf wrote:it was a good performance nothing more... his team is 11 games under .500 it is a reminder not to make this more than it is.. again I figured I would see these types of threads, would appear... but the next game I am sure will wake you guys up again.. a personal achievment for carmelo.. nothing more...

62 points and 0 assist don't impress me..

Um...62 points doesn't impress you? And he should get an assist for every time he was doubled last night which led to open shots.

no it doesn't not to the level of how you guys are impressed.. this league has seen guys drop 70+ and 80... I have seen guys like willie burton and tony delk drop 50+... it is no secret that at any point someone can have a hot, hot scoring night.. jamal crawford scoring 16 consecutive baskets.. impressed me.... 10 consecutive threes impress me..

Melo could've done this in 2 separate occasions last year. Woodson even admitted last night he messed up by pulling him and cooling him off. Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo


ok guns then i guess you are expecting him to do this 4 or 5 more times this year.. and I don't want to hear about him not having help.. he did this without amare, kenyon, bargs.. etc.. you see how this argument becomes one of contradiction?

Guys like Tony Delk can do it once but not as often as guys like Jordan Kobe Lebron and Melo

ok guns I mentioned Allan Houston, And jamal crawford. they have done so multiple times.. I never seen any threads about building around them? and honestly we went to the finals with Houston....that would have been a more valid argument on his behalf..

I still think they should probably trade him but if you can't enjoy a night like last night why even follow the team? Honestly...

You want to talk about 0 assists? When you're shooting 66% percent on a high volume of shots assists do not matter at all. I notice you didn't mention the 13 rebounds...

I follow the nba... but watching someone take 30+ shots is not why I watch....again, I'm different. some guys like no hitters in baseball where the pitcher walks 7 batters..I much rather see a 20 strikeout game... 62 points nice, but that night is over and this team is still bad.... reality hits fast..

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night in the nba....

there was a lot of unusual scoring last night huh? that's your excuse to minimize Melo's achievement? Something was just in the air and it allowed him to score a lot, that's all it was. On what planet do you think this bullet point of yours has any merit? You've said it twice now, and even listed the players who had good nights last night...quite a limb you're out on there.

Funny that in the previous 5,000 Knicks games, not one Knicks player ever took advantage of an "unusual scoring night" to the same magnitude that Melo did last night.

Can there be a more blatant form of trolling than this? "Nothing to see here, aliens came down and made a bunch of people score a lot more than they ever could without their help"

IF you cant' respect the performance last night, you're not a real fan of the team, and you're not a rational person.

this .... hate is a hell of a drug


SO is homerism and hero worship...

Papabear Says

Yes and sickness and a mental case is someone who post all day about how much he hates someone. Now that's sick!

its a bit disturbing and puzzling

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Last night's was a reminder of how good Melo is. We should be talking about how to build around him!

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