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Knicks22
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1/16/2014  8:40 PM
kidding, right?
Phil Jackson - coaching some of the truly greatest players in history, coached a system and, got once-a generation players to buy into it.
Woodson has no system - offensively or defensively - and,does such a inept job of coaching plays late and close that Melo - one of the great scorers in the league - is 1 for 20 late and close... that's not all on Melo, that's on an absolute failure of a coach to set up a play
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1/16/2014  8:41 PM
Pacers remind me of the 90's Knicks. Tough defensive team. I just want the knicks to start over at this point
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1/16/2014  8:41 PM
nixluva wrote:
Knicks22 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks D was just not aware at all. Pacers set plays and overall chemistry is on an Elite level now!!! THIS IS WHAT GREAT COACHING LOOKS LIKE!!!

This isn't a team getting by on individual talent. They play TEAM BALL!!!

well said. how much is it coaching, or,the character of players is always the debate, but, agree - nice to see true team ball...

It's coaching. This team wasn't this crisp offensively. Now you can see they've been coached to execute all those ball and player movements to perfection. The speed and precision of their set makes it clear how well coached they are.


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So what you are saying if the Pacers coach was coaching the Knicks the knicks would look and Play like the Pacers? Man you are dreaming. The Pacers are young and Talented. This ain't about Woody it's about the Knicks taking care of business. Look I love the Knicks but I also know when they are over matched and all the best coaches in the league could not make this unit like the Pacers. I will say that Woody don't trust the young players on the Knicks and that will be his undoing. The Knicks have already given up.

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1/16/2014  8:41 PM
I thought it was maybe Tyson's ego to play roy but Woody had amare playing roy too.
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1/16/2014  8:45 PM 
3rd Qtr 8:29
IND 72 NYK 56
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1/16/2014  8:45 PM
horrible defense by bargs what else is new
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1/16/2014  8:47 PM
Lance is toying with carmelo.. with the MJ fake.. jeez that dude has catcher mitts for hands...

Paul george is a friggin beast..

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1/16/2014  8:47 PM
nixluva wrote:
Papabear wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks D was just not aware at all. Pacers set plays and overall chemistry is on an Elite level now!!! THIS IS WHAT GREAT COACHING LOOKS LIKE!!!

This isn't a team getting by on individual talent. They play TEAM BALL!!!


Papabear Says

Come on Nixluva Phil Jackson himself couldn't help this Knicks team so stop bashing Woody. Woody ain't out there missing shots. The players are. Felton can't defend no one. This is not on the coach. It's the players missing assignment and can't hit the shots. You just don't like Woody.

Man it's the coach!!! Look at the decisions. Bargs not guarding Hibbert. Going with Beno instead of MURRY who has been statistically the best guard defensively. Don't even talk about the offense!


Woodson sucks but it's not all on him. This is a mediocre, unintelligent team.
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1/16/2014  8:48 PM
Papabear wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Knicks22 wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks D was just not aware at all. Pacers set plays and overall chemistry is on an Elite level now!!! THIS IS WHAT GREAT COACHING LOOKS LIKE!!!

This isn't a team getting by on individual talent. They play TEAM BALL!!!

well said. how much is it coaching, or,the character of players is always the debate, but, agree - nice to see true team ball...

It's coaching. This team wasn't this crisp offensively. Now you can see they've been coached to execute all those ball and player movements to perfection. The speed and precision of their set makes it clear how well coached they are.


Papabear Says

So what you are saying if the Pacers coach was coaching the Knicks the knicks would look and Play like the Pacers? Man you are dreaming. The Pacers are young and Talented. This ain't about Woody it's about the Knicks taking care of business. Look I love the Knicks but I also know when they are over matched and all the best coaches in the league could not make this unit like the Pacers. I will say that Woody don't trust the young players on the Knicks and that will be his undoing. The Knicks have already given up.

Man you just don't get it. Yes the Pacers have talent, but the coach has maximized that talent!!! All Vogel's players know what to do and they play as a unit. Just having talent doesn't mean you get this level of execution on both ends. You haven't seen GREAT coaching in so long that you can't recognize it anymore.
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1/16/2014  8:49 PM
TeamBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Papabear wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks D was just not aware at all. Pacers set plays and overall chemistry is on an Elite level now!!! THIS IS WHAT GREAT COACHING LOOKS LIKE!!!

This isn't a team getting by on individual talent. They play TEAM BALL!!!


Papabear Says

Come on Nixluva Phil Jackson himself couldn't help this Knicks team so stop bashing Woody. Woody ain't out there missing shots. The players are. Felton can't defend no one. This is not on the coach. It's the players missing assignment and can't hit the shots. You just don't like Woody.

Man it's the coach!!! Look at the decisions. Bargs not guarding Hibbert. Going with Beno instead of MURRY who has been statistically the best guard defensively. Don't even talk about the offense!


Woodson sucks but it's not all on him. This is a mediocre, unintelligent team.
Exactly. Anybody who just blames woodson is not paying attention. This isnt a good team
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1/16/2014  8:50 PM 
3rd Qtr 7:19
IND 78 NYK 56
nixluva
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1/16/2014  8:53 PM
BULLSHIT!!! We play the most simplistic and yet awkward offense and our coach doesn't help this team at all. Woody got clowned by Vogel last year and it continues. THE PACERS DONT HAVE 20 PTs BETTER TALENT!
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1/16/2014  8:54 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
TeamBall wrote:
nixluva wrote:
Papabear wrote:
nixluva wrote:Knicks D was just not aware at all. Pacers set plays and overall chemistry is on an Elite level now!!! THIS IS WHAT GREAT COACHING LOOKS LIKE!!!

This isn't a team getting by on individual talent. They play TEAM BALL!!!


Papabear Says

Come on Nixluva Phil Jackson himself couldn't help this Knicks team so stop bashing Woody. Woody ain't out there missing shots. The players are. Felton can't defend no one. This is not on the coach. It's the players missing assignment and can't hit the shots. You just don't like Woody.

Man it's the coach!!! Look at the decisions. Bargs not guarding Hibbert. Going with Beno instead of MURRY who has been statistically the best guard defensively. Don't even talk about the offense!


Woodson sucks but it's not all on him. This is a mediocre, unintelligent team.
Exactly. Anybody who just blames woodson is not paying attention. This isnt a good team

I totally agree! I have been a woody hater since we lost to the heat in his first playoffs. His faults got exposed to me during that series and they were the same faults that helped end our playoff run last season. Even I know that with a player like JR on the team no way could it be all on woody. This team is poorly constructed, but that does not absolve woody of his share of the blame.
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1/16/2014  8:55 PM 
3rd Qtr 5:06
IND 80 NYK 59
StarksEwing1
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1/16/2014  8:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/16/2014  8:56 PM
nixluva wrote:BULLSHIT!!! We play the most simplistic and yet awkward offense and our coach doesn't help this team at all. Woody got clowned by Vogel last year and it continues. THE PACERS DONT HAVE 20 PTs BETTER TALENT!
Pacers are a better Team plain and simple. Look im not defending woodson but you are placing all the blame on him. the knicks arent a good TEAM. They play no defense, ahve no starting point guard, and other that melo have no scorers. Bargs JR Smith and shumpert are all inconsistent. they need to rebuild
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1/16/2014  8:58 PM
I hate the Pacers.
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1/16/2014  8:58 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:I hate the Pacers.
I do too BUT i wish the Knicks played like them
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1/16/2014  8:58 PM
Yo Kenny just showed you the great sets the Pacers run. The trust they have. Reggie just said the Knicks lack off ball movement. I could go on and on describing all the issues with Woodson's coaching!!! Not to mention his use of the roster.
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1/16/2014  8:59 PM
wtf are the Pacers fans booing for?
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