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We have our own Paul George in Iman Shumpert
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Bonn1997
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5/28/2013  11:44 AM
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yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
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Bonn1997 wrote:He's built like a PF - a strong 6'8", 240. He plays like an SF. Lebron is the only other SF with a body as strong (or actually stronger) than Melo's.

I think you are looking at his padding underneath if you think he is 240 lbs. The guy played at 230 and Lebron plays at 260. Melo is stonger than the average small forward which lets him bang and defend the post very well.

I am not saying you do it but it's funny how heights and weights fluctuate on boards when people are trying to make a point. Earlier in the year Melo was a 6'5 guy according to some.


You can't go by those lists. Last June Melo told reporters he weighed 251 during the season. (He said he lost 12 pounds and it brought him down to 239).
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/theres-less-of-anthony/

He also kept losing Weight. I can't find the article.


Where?! In his toes?
He looks the same as the 251-pounder he was in 2012.

I would only trust the measurements for rookies since guys add weight as they age but the listed #s don't change.

Here's a rookie PF who is 6'7" 232 (and therefore should be thicker than you're saying Melo is)

Melo looks nothing like that. He looks much more like David West but an inch shorter.

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5/28/2013  11:46 AM
Bonn1997
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5/28/2013  11:47 AM
knickscity wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:He's built like a PF - a strong 6'8", 240. He plays like an SF. Lebron is the only other SF with a body as strong (or actually stronger) than Melo's.

I think you are looking at his padding underneath if you think he is 240 lbs. The guy played at 230 and Lebron plays at 260. Melo is stonger than the average small forward which lets him bang and defend the post very well.

I am not saying you do it but it's funny how heights and weights fluctuate on boards when people are trying to make a point. Earlier in the year Melo was a 6'5 guy according to some.


You can't go by those lists. Last June Melo told reporters he weighed 251 during the season. (He said he lost 12 pounds and it brought him down to 239).
http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/theres-less-of-anthony/

i remember that, it came after the seaon when Woodson told melo melo to come to camp in better shape and melo got offended.

Dude was a fat small forward doesn't equal built for poward.


Do a Google image search of "Carmelo Anthony 2012" and then do it for "Carmelo Anthony 2013." The body looks identical.
Maybe you're harsher on Melo than I am but I would not call him fat. He's not ripped but he's not fat.
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5/28/2013  11:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/28/2013  11:49 AM
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His whole body is covered and he's wearing black (which makes you look smaller).
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090103040854AAo0Bb2
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5/28/2013  11:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/28/2013  6:30 PM
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5/28/2013  12:16 PM
Melo looks a lot smaller in person than on television. Also he wears a lot of damn padding. I have no idea why, but he does.
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5/28/2013  12:26 PM
SlimChin wrote:shump is a solid player but george is a superstar in the making.

exactly. Knicks fans are delusional and I am starting wonder about the "intelligent fans" part of the Knicks fan base. My buddies (non-knick fans) are always saying how we vastly overvalue our guys. Next season, if his jumper improves further, what will it be then, Kobe comparisons.

Instead of anointing someone the next??? is in a way disrespectful to the player. He is the first Imam Shumpert. A player unlike most of today's crop. Love him, appreciate him but, let the comparisons end. They rarely fit anyway.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/28/2013  1:59 PM
Knixkik wrote:
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tkf wrote:
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tkf wrote:I like shumpert a lot.. but he is nothing like paul george...or in that class.. may never be...

Paul George is stinking it up this game. And is not coming off an ACL injury. Shumpert we TRUST


do you realize how ridiculous it is to point to one game to try to prove your point.. Ok, so what about games one and two? should we say shumpert will be the next paul george every time he has a bad game? come on man.. HE is nothing like paul george, doesn't have the game, height or length.. and shumpert can't help this... and coming off an ACL injury is irrelevant...

really why must knick fans grab hold to something, blow it through the roof and try to justify it at all cost? It is ok if shumpert won't be as good as paul George, not many players in the league will be very soon...

Do you know how ridiculous it is to point to a playoff series to anoint a player as being better than a 9 year vet who eclipsed him in nearly every relevant metric?

if you were ever around and paid attention instead of these silly drive by post you would realize that I said this well before the series started, at the beginning of the season.... Time in the league has nothing to do with who is better now.... Paul George is a better player right NOW!!

Only anti Melo fans will believe that. Like I said, take Melo off our team and replace him with George and we don't win 54 games and get to the 2nd round, simple as that. We would be a 43-45- win team. George is a great up and coming player but stop overrating him.


We could speculate endlessly on what would happen in different fictional scenarios. It looks to me though like you're paying attention only to the PPG difference between Melo and George. You're not factoring in that our defense would be better, our rebounding would be better, and our teammates performance would be better since George gets more assists and fewer turnovers.
George shuts down his opponent (well maybe not when it's Lebron). Per 100 possessions, his opponent scores almost ten less points than Melo's does.

Actually teammates performance would be much better with Melo because teams actually double him and design a defense to stop him. Melo is a main reason we were such a good 3-point shooting team this season. Stop looking at Melo's scoring alone and consider how he impacts the game by how opponents defend him.

LOL this is one of the biggest myths perpetrated about this basketball player. first he has a very hard disciplining himself to keep the ball moving so that the ball stays ahead of the defender. second, when he puts the ball on the floor he almost NEVER makes a pass off the dribble to an open teammate once the defense collapses on him.

all he is is an out-of-shape regular season flash-in-the-pan scorer. a lot of regular-season sizzle to hypnotize and no steak come playoff time. and now he has a sh!t-ton to prove next season.

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5/28/2013  2:36 PM
I'm not worried about Melo. Right now i'm more concerned about getting more out of Shump. He wasn't able to really develop more of his game last summer, so this is a very important summer of development for the kid. I'd like to see a better handle, better ability to explode off the dribble, better ability to finish around the basket and maybe adding a few more midrange moves to his game to go along with his improved 3pt jumper.

He just needs to tighten up his overall skills. Love his strength, defense and full court speed. He just hasn't fully tapped into his offensive potential. A guy that is as athletic as Shump should be MUCH more dynamic at scoring the ball. I think we'll see a much more confident and take charge player next year. He showed a glimpse of that confidence in the playoffs this year.

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5/28/2013  5:05 PM
Hersports85 wrote:Melo looks a lot smaller in person than on television. Also he wears a lot of damn padding. I have no idea why, but he does.
I think because he takes so much contact and rarely is rewarded for it.
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5/28/2013  6:25 PM
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
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holfresh wrote:It has nothing to do with height and weight...It's the game you play...Its how u use your strength and size along with your game..Gallo is a SF...Barkley is a PF..Arron McKey is a SF at 6'10".Dale Davis is a PF 6' 8/9"..Xavier McDaniel is a SF..Hakeem is a center..Bill Russell at 6'9" is a center..Magic is a PG..

I'm actually disputing melo has the PF body, his game actually does resemble a pf when he actually uses it.

How so?..Bron is bigger and he is a SF..Goes to the hole with more power..still a SF..


Lebron prefers to play SF

No kidding, who doesn't prefer to play their natural position...

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5/28/2013  6:31 PM
holfresh wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:
knickscity wrote:
holfresh wrote:It has nothing to do with height and weight...It's the game you play...Its how u use your strength and size along with your game..Gallo is a SF...Barkley is a PF..Arron McKey is a SF at 6'10".Dale Davis is a PF 6' 8/9"..Xavier McDaniel is a SF..Hakeem is a center..Bill Russell at 6'9" is a center..Magic is a PG..

I'm actually disputing melo has the PF body, his game actually does resemble a pf when he actually uses it.

How so?..Bron is bigger and he is a SF..Goes to the hole with more power..still a SF..


Lebron prefers to play SF

No kidding, who doesn't prefer to play their natural position...

You mean a 260 guy doesn't like to take the pounding down low because he is not accustom to it?

We have our own Paul George in Iman Shumpert

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