Uptown wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

It depends on what you mean by a "big deal." If you want fame and money, then there is NO better way to do it than to have a high PPG. If you're just talking about lay fan and player perception, it's a gigantic deal. If you're talking about how much the player is contributing to the team's wins, PPG is a poor stat to use.

again - your lack of context with your statistical analysis is concerning. On this iteration of this team, arguable PPG understates Melo's (and JR's) value to this team. Melo is the singular reason - especially with Amare's injury - that the rest of the team gets clean looks at three. That you give him little to no credit makes no sense, other than the fact that you want to cling to your stat humping ways. This ain't baseball

It's all about efficiency and win shares, don't you read Berri?

According to win shares, Tyson Chandler>Melo LOLOLOLOLOL

To heck with KD and Melo sitting out, I wanna know why Byron Scott didn't activate Anderson Verajo tonite to give hmm a shot to win the EFFICIENCY title Thats the real story...

it's laughable that literally no one in the sporting world is talking about how friggin efficient Anderson Varejao is - wtf! IT'S WHY I WATCH THE GAMES

seriously, I watch the games for efficiency the way TKF watches basketball to see cute white boys run up and down the court, instead of spending time with his wife and kids

Bonn1997 wrote:What stat are you looking at? He's not in the top 20 in win shares.

you mean other than 53 and #2?

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

It depends on what you mean by a "big deal." If you want fame and money, then there is NO better way to do it than to have a high PPG. If you're just talking about lay fan and player perception, it's a gigantic deal. If you're talking about how much the player is contributing to the team's wins, PPG is a poor stat to use.

again - your lack of context with your statistical analysis is concerning. On this iteration of this team, arguable PPG understates Melo's (and JR's) value to this team. Melo is the singular reason - especially with Amare's injury - that the rest of the team gets clean looks at three. That you give him little to no credit makes no sense, other than the fact that you want to cling to your stat humping ways. This ain't baseball

your statement only makes sense to the degree that he actually passes out of doubles and keeps the ball moving. he doesn't actually rack up assists directly. when he plays the right way he creates open looks. when he doesn't, he doesn't. lets see if he plays the right way in the playoffs.

dk7th wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

BFD. one segment on a whore show looking to scrounge up interest that includes shameless self-promotion by a gunner. tell me something-- when was the last time anybody on here spoke about the gervin/thompson duel?

Its a historical moment and will arise any time there is another duel for the scoring title be next year or 20 years down the road. Melo's month of April is historical (in context) they way he overtook Durant for the title at the end. This, along with Shaq and Robinson and Thompson and Gervin are in the books and as I said will be revisited when its appropriate.

dk7th wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

Uptown wrote:Turn to ESPN right now and watch George Gervin and David Thompson Brag talk about the scoring title/race they had over 30 years. To quote the Ice Man, "We are talking about me and David Thompsons duel 35 years later. Thats how important it is. I'm a part of NBA history." Somebody needs to tell Ice Man, Thompson and ESPN that according to some here, its not a big deal...

It depends on what you mean by a "big deal." If you want fame and money, then there is NO better way to do it than to have a high PPG. If you're just talking about lay fan and player perception, it's a gigantic deal. If you're talking about how much the player is contributing to the team's wins, PPG is a poor stat to use.

again - your lack of context with your statistical analysis is concerning. On this iteration of this team, arguable PPG understates Melo's (and JR's) value to this team. Melo is the singular reason - especially with Amare's injury - that the rest of the team gets clean looks at three. That you give him little to no credit makes no sense, other than the fact that you want to cling to your stat humping ways. This ain't baseball

your statement only makes sense to the degree that he actually passes out of doubles and keeps the ball moving. he doesn't actually rack up assists directly. when he plays the right way he creates open looks. when he doesn't, he doesn't. lets see if he plays the right way in the playoffs.

and that makes sense only to a degree? when the perimeter defense sags to deal with Melo, it leads to open looks. I don't care about how the stat keeper scores assists. I really don't care what the statistical analysis yields either. Like I told you months ago, this team is the best team the Knicks have fielded since the 1993-94 team and the Melo is the best player we've had the pleasure of watching since Ewing

CONTEXT

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:What stat are you looking at? He's not in the top 20 in win shares.

you mean other than 53 and #2?

Can you provide a link. I don't think you mean win shares. You might mean wins produced or some other stat that I would give much less weight to.

clearly - I'm talking about 53 wins and the #2 seed. Context my man, context. This response sums up why most discount what you sell

I was responding to your quote about Anderson Varejao. You seem to be lost in a different discussion.

sorry - I'm Allanfan'ed and it's rare to see this many of the trolls out at once. It's like seeing Haley's Comet or something

No problem. I should have quoted your post. I'll just ignore the word "troll" and accept the apology.

My Congrats to Melo. Job well done. I love having you as a Knick. This is just one of the accomplishments you will do as a Knicks. When we win a title and it may not be this year but within the next 3 years you will be the king of New York.

NUPE wrote:

3G4G wrote:Naahh Durant gave up 2 weeks ago and Brooks so much as said so. No Hardcore competitive drive. Too much Momma's boy like Lebron/Rose/Vince. Much like Kobe gave up last yr and conceded to Durant more so out of feeling out of touch with it. Doesn't mean what it used to mean these days..... because these guys, this generation, is trying to maintain high level of respect/friendship/love with each other. It's like they're personally assisting towards career resumes. It's kind of a joke really.

Although Durant does a cut throat brings hands together move(which he got fined 25k by the league for) which translate to..."Kill Em Now Pray For Em Later"

It's like dude you're not that kind of a player still. Durant is rapidly approaching Lebron level not having it all there yet. The major difference for him going forward who can he collude with to get him over the hump?

LoL at this bullcrap...

Well let me dig into my card catalog of internet files and correct your posture

“He can have it,” Durant said flatly after OKC’s Thursday morning shootaround….

“I mean the stuff he’s doing right now, every time he touches the ball it looks like it’s going to go in,” Durant said. “He’s having a nice run right now and his confidence is high. I’m sure he’s going to take over. If it happens, cool.”

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...scoring-title/

What true competitive athlete says such a thing especially if you're leading at the time of statement?

3G4G wrote:

NUPE wrote:

3G4G wrote:Naahh Durant gave up 2 weeks ago and Brooks so much as said so. No Hardcore competitive drive. Too much Momma's boy like Lebron/Rose/Vince. Much like Kobe gave up last yr and conceded to Durant more so out of feeling out of touch with it. Doesn't mean what it used to mean these days..... because these guys, this generation, is trying to maintain high level of respect/friendship/love with each other. It's like they're personally assisting towards career resumes. It's kind of a joke really.

Although Durant does a cut throat brings hands together move(which he got fined 25k by the league for) which translate to..."Kill Em Now Pray For Em Later"

It's like dude you're not that kind of a player still. Durant is rapidly approaching Lebron level not having it all there yet. The major difference for him going forward who can he collude with to get him over the hump?

LoL at this bullcrap...

Well let me dig into my card catalog of internet files and correct your posture

“He can have it,” Durant said flatly after OKC’s Thursday morning shootaround….

“I mean the stuff he’s doing right now, every time he touches the ball it looks like it’s going to go in,” Durant said. “He’s having a nice run right now and his confidence is high. I’m sure he’s going to take over. If it happens, cool.”

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...scoring-title/

What true competitive athlete says such a thing especially if you're leading at the time of statement?

Yo, its a simple question....