3G4G wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:How come Tyson isn't getting any rope since he proved to help a team win a Championship in the past and Melo proved nothing in the past besides 1st round exits? Also didn't Tyson limp into the playoffs? Isn't Melo hurt somewhat now?

So why the pitchforks and flaming bottles for Tyson?

Really dude?

Jose Barea and Jason Terry won a championship too. Dallas didnt pay any of them because they knew the reason they won was because f their big dog Dirk Nowitski. Nowitski needed that supporting cast to get over the top.

Chandler, Barea, and Terry havent done a DAM thing since they left. Mark Cuban knew reality. While you want to pretend Tyson is some major piece of a championship puzzle.

Shouldn't have used our Amnesty money on him then if this is so apparent. I wanted at the time for the money to be fragmented across a couple players and 2 players I mentioned at the time was Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry....

Dude. Jarret Jack and Carl Landry. LMAO. Im done...............

Knicks had to use the cap space and Chandler was the best option. Chandler needs to be surrounded by shooter or play with an ELITE PG. The Clippers or Warriors would be a great home for him.

If Amare was healthy this wouldn't be a discussion because Chandler's flaws would be hidden since Amare and Melo would bear the brunt of the scoring load. That isnt the case though and Chandler needs to go.

Nalod wrote:Bogut is a very good player who is always been injured.

Melo took us to the playoffs. Gallo, amare and wilson had us over .500 and likley going to the playoffs that year. If Melo is on the Nets who knows how many teams look after that.

Melo took us to the playoffs. Its nice. Two first round bumps, because we depleted. Ok, thats the price we pay. Not his fault and all the while we have a star.

2nd seed and first place !! This is nice.

According to Playa, it it don't matter.

So Jury is out. gotta beat Indy!

Otherwise, it don't matter!

Amare Stoudemire beasting had the Knicks playing over .500 ball. Denver plays fine without Gallo and Chandler. Gallo, Chandler, and Felton are role players. That is the reality.

AnubisADL wrote:

Nalod wrote:Bogut is a very good player who is always been injured.

Melo took us to the playoffs. Gallo, amare and wilson had us over .500 and likley going to the playoffs that year. If Melo is on the Nets who knows how many teams look after that.

Melo took us to the playoffs. Its nice. Two first round bumps, because we depleted. Ok, thats the price we pay. Not his fault and all the while we have a star.

2nd seed and first place !! This is nice.

According to Playa, it it don't matter.

So Jury is out. gotta beat Indy!

Otherwise, it don't matter!

Amare Stoudemire beasting had the Knicks playing over .500 ball. Denver plays fine without Gallo and Chandler. Gallo, Chandler, and Felton are role players. That is the reality.

Yep........

Amare Beasting puts us in the playoffs.

What have not seen is the value added of Melo+Amare=Chemistry!

WE can talk all we want about "stars" and what not.

Melo as investment to keep knicks starphuckedly relevent at the box office with a declining Amare I get.

As an actual valid contentender? Lets see.

If not, then regular season is all we got (not complaining), then thats just a differnt meaurement.

Nalod wrote:Yep........

Amare Beasting puts us in the playoffs.

What have not seen is the value added of Melo+Amare=Chemistry!

WE can talk all we want about "stars" and what not.

Melo as investment to keep knicks starphuckedly relevent at the box office with a declining Amare I get.

As an actual valid contentender? Lets see.

If not, then regular season is all we got (not complaining), then thats just a differnt meaurement.

I heard the same argument about McGrady years ago. His team never got out the first round. Dude took scrubs to the playoffs YEARLY while Grant Hill sat on the bench in a suit. McGrady was so good he made people forgot about about Grant Hill. Grant Hill crippled a franchises ability to improve like Amare is doing right now. No one is talking about Amare because Melo was getting it done without him. He isn't crying to the media and throwing his teammates under the bus.

Kobe wasnt doing much with scrubs in LA either. Pau Gasol, Bynum, and Odom helped get them over the top.

VCoug wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

3G4G wrote:How come Tyson isn't getting any rope since he proved to help a team win a Championship in the past and Melo proved nothing in the past besides 1st round exits? Also didn't Tyson limp into the playoffs? Isn't Melo hurt somewhat now?

So why the pitchforks and flaming bottles for Tyson?

Really dude?

Jose Barea and Jason Terry won a championship too. Dallas didnt pay any of them because they knew the reason they won was because f their big dog Dirk Nowitski. Nowitski needed that supporting cast to get over the top.

Chandler, Barea, and Terry havent done a DAM thing since they left. Mark Cuban knew reality. While you want to pretend Tyson is some major piece of a championship puzzle.

Those guys weren't resigned because Cuban wanted to go after Deron Williams and Dwight Howard last offseason and he needed their cap space to do it. Are you really claiming that a team that went from a championship to out of the playoffs in 2 seasons made the right decisions?

Cuban had to know both those guys would be a long shot, Berea went for the money, not even waiting for Cuban to offer him a sheet. So, I think you reasoning is flawed. He also credited Tyson MORE THAN ONCE for being the piece that put them over the hump. So, your wrong about Tyson (or Cuban was lying).
Cuban even told Dirk that the next season would be difficult since he was saving cap money not for the season directly after the Championship but, the season after that

Andrew wrote:Jarret Jack was in the middle of a 4 year contract when we had amnesty money.

We had cap space and teams with cap space can take on salary and not dish out equal salary.....hence Jack had been traded twice since signing that deal.

We could have traded someone like Fields/Douglas for Jack..... when he was playing for the Raps....

Where is Landry playing now and is Douglas on our team anymore?

AnubisADL wrote:3G4G really talking about Jarret Jack and Carl Landry, who are coming off the bench for a playoff team.

Come on now man.

You really trying to clown 2 guys who are currently playing better than J.R. Smith who comes off the bench for us?

Melo hot and Melo cold---> Melo warm = look at me, i'm in the second round.

Ray is the X factor, but he's not a PG. He's a small, slashing SG with a major chip on his shoulder, still. Priggy and Kidd are the only PG's on this team, and Shump is becoming too valuable as a scoring/defending threat to be saddled with distribution duties as well. Have to play with that instinct unfettered by a quarterback's methodicalness. I had dreams of Shump becoming the next Clyde/Oscar Robertson at the point. I don't think that's going to happen.

We starphuqued because it's all the rage in the NBA that matters, in case you haven't been reading the papers.

It will be too funny if OKC tries to go the starphucque route this off season.