KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:The title of this thread is interesting...Most posters here seek "high character" guys like Lin, LeBron, DHow, Wade, Bosh etc...But of all those guys, Melo was the only honest guy with his own organization letting them know exactly his intentions in the off season, so they could get something in return...But his type of character isn't desirable..Go figure...

a contract is a contract. he fulfilled his contractual obligations-- almost.

he didn't care that he decimated the team he was going to.

he wanted his money and would have been okay playing anywhere as long as he was paid.

then dolan parlayed that honesty into this latest iteration of futility.

dolan and melo are soulmates. they bonded in las vegas.

and what goes on in vegas... stays in vegas.

If u want the be honest about the whole thing, it was a great trade for the Knicks...It's the Amare signing that has killed the Knicks..Do you deny if we some how swap out Amare with Chris Paul we would be challenging the Heat for the East or maybe for a Championship rings for years to come??

After trading every single asset to get Melo, there was nothing major that the Knicks could have used to get Chris Paul, so he was never coming here, the Knicks over bid for Melo and are paying dearly for that.

Not entirely correct ..We don't have the cap room to sign Chris Paul..I know it's easy to assign blame on Melo for most things that occur in Knickland but he shows up for the most part and plays well when healthy...He has clearly out performed the guys he was traded for..The problem is Amare..If we didn't make the trade, how would we be as a team with Gallo, and Felton??..Will just coming back from injury??..Amare out the last 2.5 years?? Lottery.??

I totally agree that STAT’s contract is killing our cap, I’m just explaining that just like Melo, Chris Paul was not coming to the Knicks unless you trade for him, and while Melo was the best player on the Denver deal, I had always believed that the package that we sent as a whole was little too much. Had we kept a couple of those assets, the outlook of this team may be different now or at least the Knicks would have other options.

Also, last offseason I was very heart broken, I felt that there were some young players available for cheap that the Knicks should sign and try to develop and improve their value for future trades. Instead the Knicks started collecting players wayyyy past their prime with little value for most NBA teams and again are paying dearly for that.

like who, our focus was getting a reliable pg and retaining a few of our own players.Felton was essentially the best pg option available, nash was on top of the list.
I could understand that we are in win win situation And woodson obviously looked at the recipie for his detriot championship and thought veterns are the way to go

Sure that was the focus, thats why we end up with 9 new players on the roster and let our own point guard go.

As far as being in a Win situation, some of the best team in the NBA have young players in the roster, including the Spurs the team with the best record in the NBA. Did you check who's their starting point guard these days?

He has a point, we also had JR walk on for free, who we still can't afford to pay his true value..The only guy I see us being able to retain is Wilson Chandler, maybe, at his salary and would that put us over the top??..We also have a lot of wasted money in Novak, Kidd, Camby,and KT...So you can also point to trade but I don't see who we could have retained that would have made a difference...

Like you say may be Wilson Chandler (who would probably be our 3rd or 4th best player today), may be Mozgov, had the Knicks kept him they probably wouldn’t have amnestied Billups for Chandler. Than retaining a huge expiring contract or salary cap for that summer, also we would have our amnestied provision to use on STAT right now.
See this is why is very important to retain your assets and don’t give them away so easily.

Who is better JR or Wislon Chandler and please stop with Mozgov would you???

knicks1248 wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:yeah we got 9 new players, but i do believe we traded for kidd, camby and felton.

ppl alaways talk about we don't have pieces to make trades, yet we got rid of guys douglas, offensively challenge JJ to name a couple. TD's stock was so low i'm surprise anyone would want anything to do with him.

There are a few young good teams in the NBA that have great seasons and fall flat in the playoffs, and thats what the Knicks back office is looking at, along with woodson.

I still believe come playoffs these Veterens will turn it up if were healthy. We look like a half ass team in the preseason, then came roaring out of the gate with a sense of urgency

I dont buy that. Im tired of giving excuses. Im a diehard knick fan but im not afraid to call out this team

You can call them out all day, but injuries are injuries, veterens are veterens

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:The title of this thread is interesting...Most posters here seek "high character" guys like Lin, LeBron, DHow, Wade, Bosh etc...But of all those guys, Melo was the only honest guy with his own organization letting them know exactly his intentions in the off season, so they could get something in return...But his type of character isn't desirable..Go figure...

a contract is a contract. he fulfilled his contractual obligations-- almost.

he didn't care that he decimated the team he was going to.

he wanted his money and would have been okay playing anywhere as long as he was paid.

then dolan parlayed that honesty into this latest iteration of futility.

dolan and melo are soulmates. they bonded in las vegas.

and what goes on in vegas... stays in vegas.

If u want the be honest about the whole thing, it was a great trade for the Knicks...It's the Amare signing that has killed the Knicks..Do you deny if we some how swap out Amare with Chris Paul we would be challenging the Heat for the East or maybe for a Championship rings for years to come??

After trading every single asset to get Melo, there was nothing major that the Knicks could have used to get Chris Paul, so he was never coming here, the Knicks over bid for Melo and are paying dearly for that.

Not entirely correct ..We don't have the cap room to sign Chris Paul..I know it's easy to assign blame on Melo for most things that occur in Knickland but he shows up for the most part and plays well when healthy...He has clearly out performed the guys he was traded for..The problem is Amare..If we didn't make the trade, how would we be as a team with Gallo, and Felton??..Will just coming back from injury??..Amare out the last 2.5 years?? Lottery.??

I totally agree that STAT’s contract is killing our cap, I’m just explaining that just like Melo, Chris Paul was not coming to the Knicks unless you trade for him, and while Melo was the best player on the Denver deal, I had always believed that the package that we sent as a whole was little too much. Had we kept a couple of those assets, the outlook of this team may be different now or at least the Knicks would have other options.

Also, last offseason I was very heart broken, I felt that there were some young players available for cheap that the Knicks should sign and try to develop and improve their value for future trades. Instead the Knicks started collecting players wayyyy past their prime with little value for most NBA teams and again are paying dearly for that.

like who, our focus was getting a reliable pg and retaining a few of our own players.Felton was essentially the best pg option available, nash was on top of the list.
I could understand that we are in win win situation And woodson obviously looked at the recipie for his detriot championship and thought veterns are the way to go

Sure that was the focus, thats why we end up with 9 new players on the roster and let our own point guard go.

As far as being in a Win situation, some of the best team in the NBA have young players in the roster, including the Spurs the team with the best record in the NBA. Did you check who's their starting point guard these days?

He has a point, we also had JR walk on for free, who we still can't afford to pay his true value..The only guy I see us being able to retain is Wilson Chandler, maybe, at his salary and would that put us over the top??..We also have a lot of wasted money in Novak, Kidd, Camby,and KT...So you can also point to trade but I don't see who we could have retained that would have made a difference...

Like you say may be Wilson Chandler (who would probably be our 3rd or 4th best player today), may be Mozgov, had the Knicks kept him they probably wouldn’t have amnestied Billups for Chandler. Than retaining a huge expiring contract or salary cap for that summer, also we would have our amnestied provision to use on STAT right now.
See this is why is very important to retain your assets and don’t give them away so easily.

Who is better JR or Wislon Chandler and please stop with Mozgov would you???

never been a big jr smith fan. I always though wilson chandler was unappreciated in new york

Wilson was my favorite Knick but he isn't better than JR and we got JR for free ...People are hanging on to the trade but it's Amare that is killing us...

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:The title of this thread is interesting...Most posters here seek "high character" guys like Lin, LeBron, DHow, Wade, Bosh etc...But of all those guys, Melo was the only honest guy with his own organization letting them know exactly his intentions in the off season, so they could get something in return...But his type of character isn't desirable..Go figure...

a contract is a contract. he fulfilled his contractual obligations-- almost.

he didn't care that he decimated the team he was going to.

he wanted his money and would have been okay playing anywhere as long as he was paid.

then dolan parlayed that honesty into this latest iteration of futility.

dolan and melo are soulmates. they bonded in las vegas.

and what goes on in vegas... stays in vegas.

If u want the be honest about the whole thing, it was a great trade for the Knicks...It's the Amare signing that has killed the Knicks..Do you deny if we some how swap out Amare with Chris Paul we would be challenging the Heat for the East or maybe for a Championship rings for years to come??

After trading every single asset to get Melo, there was nothing major that the Knicks could have used to get Chris Paul, so he was never coming here, the Knicks over bid for Melo and are paying dearly for that.

Not entirely correct ..We don't have the cap room to sign Chris Paul..I know it's easy to assign blame on Melo for most things that occur in Knickland but he shows up for the most part and plays well when healthy...He has clearly out performed the guys he was traded for..The problem is Amare..If we didn't make the trade, how would we be as a team with Gallo, and Felton??..Will just coming back from injury??..Amare out the last 2.5 years?? Lottery.??

I totally agree that STAT’s contract is killing our cap, I’m just explaining that just like Melo, Chris Paul was not coming to the Knicks unless you trade for him, and while Melo was the best player on the Denver deal, I had always believed that the package that we sent as a whole was little too much. Had we kept a couple of those assets, the outlook of this team may be different now or at least the Knicks would have other options.

Also, last offseason I was very heart broken, I felt that there were some young players available for cheap that the Knicks should sign and try to develop and improve their value for future trades. Instead the Knicks started collecting players wayyyy past their prime with little value for most NBA teams and again are paying dearly for that.

like who, our focus was getting a reliable pg and retaining a few of our own players.Felton was essentially the best pg option available, nash was on top of the list.
I could understand that we are in win win situation And woodson obviously looked at the recipie for his detriot championship and thought veterns are the way to go

Sure that was the focus, thats why we end up with 9 new players on the roster and let our own point guard go.

As far as being in a Win situation, some of the best team in the NBA have young players in the roster, including the Spurs the team with the best record in the NBA. Did you check who's their starting point guard these days?

He has a point, we also had JR walk on for free, who we still can't afford to pay his true value..The only guy I see us being able to retain is Wilson Chandler, maybe, at his salary and would that put us over the top??..We also have a lot of wasted money in Novak, Kidd, Camby,and KT...So you can also point to trade but I don't see who we could have retained that would have made a difference...

Like you say may be Wilson Chandler (who would probably be our 3rd or 4th best player today), may be Mozgov, had the Knicks kept him they probably wouldn’t have amnestied Billups for Chandler. Than retaining a huge expiring contract or salary cap for that summer, also we would have our amnestied provision to use on STAT right now.
See this is why is very important to retain your assets and don’t give them away so easily.

Who is better JR or Wislon Chandler and please stop with Mozgov would you???

never been a big jr smith fan. I always though wilson chandler was unappreciated in new york

Wilson was my favorite Knick but he isn't better than JR and we got JR for free ...People are hanging on to the trade but it's Amare that is killing us...

First of all im not hanging on to the trade. My biggest problem is the other trades ans signings we made. Using the amnesty on billups instead of amare was dumb, signing kidd to a 3 year deal was dumb, Camby has also been a bust, not keeping lin has been bad, giving novak 4 years has been a disaster

Not saying u but others who u see me quoting...I too think Amare would have been better to use the amnesty but I don't play the 20/20 hindsight game...And believe me..I could show u threads that I started about the Kidd sigining, NOvak, and all the old dudes, but whats the point now...

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:The title of this thread is interesting...Most posters here seek "high character" guys like Lin, LeBron, DHow, Wade, Bosh etc...But of all those guys, Melo was the only honest guy with his own organization letting them know exactly his intentions in the off season, so they could get something in return...But his type of character isn't desirable..Go figure...

a contract is a contract. he fulfilled his contractual obligations-- almost.

he didn't care that he decimated the team he was going to.

he wanted his money and would have been okay playing anywhere as long as he was paid.

then dolan parlayed that honesty into this latest iteration of futility.

dolan and melo are soulmates. they bonded in las vegas.

and what goes on in vegas... stays in vegas.

If u want the be honest about the whole thing, it was a great trade for the Knicks...It's the Amare signing that has killed the Knicks..Do you deny if we some how swap out Amare with Chris Paul we would be challenging the Heat for the East or maybe for a Championship rings for years to come??

After trading every single asset to get Melo, there was nothing major that the Knicks could have used to get Chris Paul, so he was never coming here, the Knicks over bid for Melo and are paying dearly for that.

Not entirely correct ..We don't have the cap room to sign Chris Paul..I know it's easy to assign blame on Melo for most things that occur in Knickland but he shows up for the most part and plays well when healthy...He has clearly out performed the guys he was traded for..The problem is Amare..If we didn't make the trade, how would we be as a team with Gallo, and Felton??..Will just coming back from injury??..Amare out the last 2.5 years?? Lottery.??

I totally agree that STAT’s contract is killing our cap, I’m just explaining that just like Melo, Chris Paul was not coming to the Knicks unless you trade for him, and while Melo was the best player on the Denver deal, I had always believed that the package that we sent as a whole was little too much. Had we kept a couple of those assets, the outlook of this team may be different now or at least the Knicks would have other options.

Also, last offseason I was very heart broken, I felt that there were some young players available for cheap that the Knicks should sign and try to develop and improve their value for future trades. Instead the Knicks started collecting players wayyyy past their prime with little value for most NBA teams and again are paying dearly for that.

like who, our focus was getting a reliable pg and retaining a few of our own players.Felton was essentially the best pg option available, nash was on top of the list.
I could understand that we are in win win situation And woodson obviously looked at the recipie for his detriot championship and thought veterns are the way to go

Sure that was the focus, thats why we end up with 9 new players on the roster and let our own point guard go.

As far as being in a Win situation, some of the best team in the NBA have young players in the roster, including the Spurs the team with the best record in the NBA. Did you check who's their starting point guard these days?

He has a point, we also had JR walk on for free, who we still can't afford to pay his true value..The only guy I see us being able to retain is Wilson Chandler, maybe, at his salary and would that put us over the top??..We also have a lot of wasted money in Novak, Kidd, Camby,and KT...So you can also point to trade but I don't see who we could have retained that would have made a difference...

Like you say may be Wilson Chandler (who would probably be our 3rd or 4th best player today), may be Mozgov, had the Knicks kept him they probably wouldn’t have amnestied Billups for Chandler. Than retaining a huge expiring contract or salary cap for that summer, also we would have our amnestied provision to use on STAT right now.
See this is why is very important to retain your assets and don’t give them away so easily.

Who is better JR or Wislon Chandler and please stop with Mozgov would you???

never been a big jr smith fan. I always though wilson chandler was unappreciated in new york

Wilson was my favorite Knick but he isn't better than JR and we got JR for free ...People are hanging on to the trade but it's Amare that is killing us...

First of all im not hanging on to the trade. My biggest problem is the other trades ans signings we made. Using the amnesty on billups instead of amare was dumb, signing kidd to a 3 year deal was dumb, Camby has also been a bust, not keeping lin has been bad, giving novak 4 years has been a disaster

Not saying u but others who u see me quoting...I too think Amare would have been better to use the amnesty but I don't play to 20/20 hindsight game...

I respect that you wnat to be positive but to be fair things dont look good now and probably next year. I mean we had to rebuild soo anyway but it sucks that denver has control over 2 of our first round picks in the future. Im a knick fan but i gotta give Denver a ton of credit they really turned a bad situation into a very good young team full of depth

Gallo and Will aren't difference makers..They are role players...Denver needs a Melo...Again, If Amare was playing we wouldnt have this conversation nor would u care about those guys on Denver...

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:The title of this thread is interesting...Most posters here seek "high character" guys like Lin, LeBron, DHow, Wade, Bosh etc...But of all those guys, Melo was the only honest guy with his own organization letting them know exactly his intentions in the off season, so they could get something in return...But his type of character isn't desirable..Go figure...

a contract is a contract. he fulfilled his contractual obligations-- almost.

he didn't care that he decimated the team he was going to.

he wanted his money and would have been okay playing anywhere as long as he was paid.

then dolan parlayed that honesty into this latest iteration of futility.

dolan and melo are soulmates. they bonded in las vegas.

and what goes on in vegas... stays in vegas.

If u want the be honest about the whole thing, it was a great trade for the Knicks...It's the Amare signing that has killed the Knicks..Do you deny if we some how swap out Amare with Chris Paul we would be challenging the Heat for the East or maybe for a Championship rings for years to come??

After trading every single asset to get Melo, there was nothing major that the Knicks could have used to get Chris Paul, so he was never coming here, the Knicks over bid for Melo and are paying dearly for that.

Not entirely correct ..We don't have the cap room to sign Chris Paul..I know it's easy to assign blame on Melo for most things that occur in Knickland but he shows up for the most part and plays well when healthy...He has clearly out performed the guys he was traded for..The problem is Amare..If we didn't make the trade, how would we be as a team with Gallo, and Felton??..Will just coming back from injury??..Amare out the last 2.5 years?? Lottery.??

I totally agree that STAT’s contract is killing our cap, I’m just explaining that just like Melo, Chris Paul was not coming to the Knicks unless you trade for him, and while Melo was the best player on the Denver deal, I had always believed that the package that we sent as a whole was little too much. Had we kept a couple of those assets, the outlook of this team may be different now or at least the Knicks would have other options.

Also, last offseason I was very heart broken, I felt that there were some young players available for cheap that the Knicks should sign and try to develop and improve their value for future trades. Instead the Knicks started collecting players wayyyy past their prime with little value for most NBA teams and again are paying dearly for that.

like who, our focus was getting a reliable pg and retaining a few of our own players.Felton was essentially the best pg option available, nash was on top of the list.
I could understand that we are in win win situation And woodson obviously looked at the recipie for his detriot championship and thought veterns are the way to go

Sure that was the focus, thats why we end up with 9 new players on the roster and let our own point guard go.

As far as being in a Win situation, some of the best team in the NBA have young players in the roster, including the Spurs the team with the best record in the NBA. Did you check who's their starting point guard these days?

He has a point, we also had JR walk on for free, who we still can't afford to pay his true value..The only guy I see us being able to retain is Wilson Chandler, maybe, at his salary and would that put us over the top??..We also have a lot of wasted money in Novak, Kidd, Camby,and KT...So you can also point to trade but I don't see who we could have retained that would have made a difference...

Like you say may be Wilson Chandler (who would probably be our 3rd or 4th best player today), may be Mozgov, had the Knicks kept him they probably wouldn’t have amnestied Billups for Chandler. Than retaining a huge expiring contract or salary cap for that summer, also we would have our amnestied provision to use on STAT right now.
See this is why is very important to retain your assets and don’t give them away so easily.

Who is better JR or Wislon Chandler and please stop with Mozgov would you???

never been a big jr smith fan. I always though wilson chandler was unappreciated in new york

Wilson was my favorite Knick but he isn't better than JR and we got JR for free ...People are hanging on to the trade but it's Amare that is killing us...

First of all im not hanging on to the trade. My biggest problem is the other trades ans signings we made. Using the amnesty on billups instead of amare was dumb, signing kidd to a 3 year deal was dumb, Camby has also been a bust, not keeping lin has been bad, giving novak 4 years has been a disaster

Not saying u but others who u see me quoting...I too think Amare would have been better to use the amnesty but I don't play to 20/20 hindsight game...

I respect that you wnat to be positive but to be fair things dont look good now and probably next year. I mean we had to rebuild soo anyway but it sucks that denver has control over 2 of our first round picks in the future. Im a knick fan but i gotta give Denver a ton of credit they really turned a bad situation into a very good young team full of depth

Gallo and Will aren't difference makers..They are role players...Denver needs a Melo...Again, If Amare was playing we wouldnt have this conversation nor would u care about those guys on Denver...

You do realize that i wasnt crticizing melo i was just giving credit to another team. I mean its ok to give credit to another team even though im a knicks fan

I never said or indicated anything to suggest that u did criticize him...

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

holfresh wrote:

dk7th wrote:

holfresh wrote:The title of this thread is interesting...Most posters here seek "high character" guys like Lin, LeBron, DHow, Wade, Bosh etc...But of all those guys, Melo was the only honest guy with his own organization letting them know exactly his intentions in the off season, so they could get something in return...But his type of character isn't desirable..Go figure...

a contract is a contract. he fulfilled his contractual obligations-- almost.

he didn't care that he decimated the team he was going to.

he wanted his money and would have been okay playing anywhere as long as he was paid.

then dolan parlayed that honesty into this latest iteration of futility.

dolan and melo are soulmates. they bonded in las vegas.

and what goes on in vegas... stays in vegas.

If u want the be honest about the whole thing, it was a great trade for the Knicks...It's the Amare signing that has killed the Knicks..Do you deny if we some how swap out Amare with Chris Paul we would be challenging the Heat for the East or maybe for a Championship rings for years to come??

After trading every single asset to get Melo, there was nothing major that the Knicks could have used to get Chris Paul, so he was never coming here, the Knicks over bid for Melo and are paying dearly for that.

Not entirely correct ..We don't have the cap room to sign Chris Paul..I know it's easy to assign blame on Melo for most things that occur in Knickland but he shows up for the most part and plays well when healthy...He has clearly out performed the guys he was traded for..The problem is Amare..If we didn't make the trade, how would we be as a team with Gallo, and Felton??..Will just coming back from injury??..Amare out the last 2.5 years?? Lottery.??

I totally agree that STAT’s contract is killing our cap, I’m just explaining that just like Melo, Chris Paul was not coming to the Knicks unless you trade for him, and while Melo was the best player on the Denver deal, I had always believed that the package that we sent as a whole was little too much. Had we kept a couple of those assets, the outlook of this team may be different now or at least the Knicks would have other options.

Also, last offseason I was very heart broken, I felt that there were some young players available for cheap that the Knicks should sign and try to develop and improve their value for future trades. Instead the Knicks started collecting players wayyyy past their prime with little value for most NBA teams and again are paying dearly for that.

like who, our focus was getting a reliable pg and retaining a few of our own players.Felton was essentially the best pg option available, nash was on top of the list.
I could understand that we are in win win situation And woodson obviously looked at the recipie for his detriot championship and thought veterns are the way to go

Sure that was the focus, thats why we end up with 9 new players on the roster and let our own point guard go.

As far as being in a Win situation, some of the best team in the NBA have young players in the roster, including the Spurs the team with the best record in the NBA. Did you check who's their starting point guard these days?

He has a point, we also had JR walk on for free, who we still can't afford to pay his true value..The only guy I see us being able to retain is Wilson Chandler, maybe, at his salary and would that put us over the top??..We also have a lot of wasted money in Novak, Kidd, Camby,and KT...So you can also point to trade but I don't see who we could have retained that would have made a difference...

Like you say may be Wilson Chandler (who would probably be our 3rd or 4th best player today), may be Mozgov, had the Knicks kept him they probably wouldn’t have amnestied Billups for Chandler. Than retaining a huge expiring contract or salary cap for that summer, also we would have our amnestied provision to use on STAT right now.
See this is why is very important to retain your assets and don’t give them away so easily.

Who is better JR or Wislon Chandler and please stop with Mozgov would you???

never been a big jr smith fan. I always though wilson chandler was unappreciated in new york

Wilson was my favorite Knick but he isn't better than JR and we got JR for free ...People are hanging on to the trade but it's Amare that is killing us...

First of all im not hanging on to the trade. My biggest problem is the other trades ans signings we made. Using the amnesty on billups instead of amare was dumb, signing kidd to a 3 year deal was dumb, Camby has also been a bust, not keeping lin has been bad, giving novak 4 years has been a disaster

Not saying u but others who u see me quoting...I too think Amare would have been better to use the amnesty but I don't play to 20/20 hindsight game...

I respect that you wnat to be positive but to be fair things dont look good now and probably next year. I mean we had to rebuild soo anyway but it sucks that denver has control over 2 of our first round picks in the future. Im a knick fan but i gotta give Denver a ton of credit they really turned a bad situation into a very good young team full of depth

Gallo and Will aren't difference makers..They are role players...Denver needs a Melo...Again, If Amare was playing we wouldnt have this conversation nor would u care about those guys on Denver...

I totally disagree; we would still have this conversation today since there is very little indication that Amare and Melo can thrive playing together.

Actually Amare and Melo can play very well toghether. Its our guards that lack the creativity to get them involve equally. Kidds lack of penetrationturns this team into a perimeter team, but since melo hardly moves the ball once he gets it we became a iso team.

Priggs clearly doesn't shoot enough by far, doesn't get consistent minutes, and if the PnR isn't there he's worthless.

Felton is to damn inconsistent, great one minute, head scratching the next.

overall we need a pg that combines felton, kidd and priggs attributes all in one for our bigs to be effective, and for the team to stop relying on melo to bail us out.

We just need guards like sessions, kember,parker, ect who penetrate often and can pass and has a decent jump shot. I thought felton would do that but he settles to much like jr and shump for jumpers

KnicksFE wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I don't necessary think we need an elite pg, cause most of our bigs (amare melo tyson sheed kt and now kmart) can shoot and finish from the paint and perimeter..
We just need guards like sessions, kember,parker, ect who penetrate often and can pass and has a decent jump shot. I thought felton would do that but he settles to much like jr and shump for jumpers

Those guys can finish around the basket and shoot from the perimeter yes, however, all of our big guys are average passers at best, so you do need more than Session or Felton for them to thrive together (not just play together) but thrive together. Parker (MVP Candidate)sure will make this team much better, and will also take Kemba over any of our guards.

the sub-par passing skills of the frontcourt prevents the team from excelling.