Silverfuel wrote:

Nalod wrote:On the playground you play for recreation, pride and protect your turf.

In the worlds most famous arena there are people paying serious coin to see the game. Advertisers pay serious money to represent their product.

On the court KG yapped away but stayed cool. He wants to win the game and is paid very well to deliver.

Melo took it personal.

Thats not cool and not why he gets paid 20 mil.

It never escalated into a confrontation so I doubt he gets suspended. Im fine with a fine cuz its not my money.

So winning is what is important? You don't care what someone says or how they react as long as the team wins? So if Melo reacted that way and the Knicks won the game, you would be ok with it?

To answer your question: Yes.

Please my prism in this discussion is from the perspective of why melo is paid and what the team is trying to do. You stay true to your team if you win. You are paid to entertain.

You think little kids, parents, suit wearing execs are going around talking about how great it was to see melo melt down and the game lost? Or, "Crazy KG tried to bait melo, the two had words, them Melo got down and even by nailing a few shots after a bad game and stuck it to him"! Instead of "Melo had a bad game and KG got him out of his mind. My kids were laughing over his language but its not cool, Melo got hot, started chucking, missed key FT's and lost it. And yeah we lost to Boston at home!"

What would Oak? Or what would Clyde do?

Im old school and go with clyde. Plenty of times back in the day players got in to it.

Melo took the spotlight and made it about him. the hell with the 19,000 people, his team, or the viewers on TV. It was about Melo an the crazy man who offended him.

If KG crossed the line then deal with it after the game.

If it was on the playground they can do what they want to. Its their game in the NBA its the fans game.

If the Knicks win, and that was a very winnable game I don't mind it because if melo was the hero then he delt with it. He didn't.

Its about outcomes isn't it? WE all accountable.

In my line of work If I make a mistake two things happen. Either we accidently make money or lose. If we lose, I pay. If we win, client keeps it.

Its my perspective. Im a fan and I don't care to pay, even for a league pass to see Melo stand on principle. If KG said something despicable does the league have a protocol to deal with it? If not, then its a mans game between professionals and the real pro's keep it together.

Melo is a star and paid like one. You think if Copeland lead the league in Tech's and acted like that his career would last very long? No. Melo is the star draw, the attraction, the face of the franchise, teh straw that stirs the drink, the guy we traded half our team for, the Starphuch and our Mooby golden calf. He has the contract and avg. 29ppg. He gets paid 20mil to do this.

As woodson said: "thank goodness its not the playoffs"

Melo sent a clear message out to the tough guys and one way to defeat Melo is to mess with his temper.

Whats he gonna do now? He going to have to deal with it. you don't pay pro's 20 mil for "teaching moments"!

Nalod wrote:

Silverfuel wrote:

Nalod wrote:On the playground you play for recreation, pride and protect your turf.

In the worlds most famous arena there are people paying serious coin to see the game. Advertisers pay serious money to represent their product.

On the court KG yapped away but stayed cool. He wants to win the game and is paid very well to deliver.

Melo took it personal.

Thats not cool and not why he gets paid 20 mil.

It never escalated into a confrontation so I doubt he gets suspended. Im fine with a fine cuz its not my money.

So winning is what is important? You don't care what someone says or how they react as long as the team wins? So if Melo reacted that way and the Knicks won the game, you would be ok with it?

To answer your question: Yes.

Please my prism in this discussion is from the perspective of why melo is paid and what the team is trying to do. You stay true to your team if you win. You are paid to entertain.

You think little kids, parents, suit wearing execs are going around talking about how great it was to see melo melt down and the game lost? Or, "Crazy KG tried to bait melo, the two had words, them Melo got down and even by nailing a few shots after a bad game and stuck it to him"! Instead of "Melo had a bad game and KG got him out of his mind. My kids were laughing over his language but its not cool, Melo got hot, started chucking, missed key FT's and lost it. And yeah we lost to Boston at home!"

What would Oak? Or what would Clyde do?

Im old school and go with clyde. Plenty of times back in the day players got in to it.

Melo took the spotlight and made it about him. the hell with the 19,000 people, his team, or the viewers on TV. It was about Melo an the crazy man who offended him.

If KG crossed the line then deal with it after the game.

If it was on the playground they can do what they want to. Its their game in the NBA its the fans game.

If the Knicks win, and that was a very winnable game I don't mind it because if melo was the hero then he delt with it. He didn't.

Its about outcomes isn't it? WE all accountable.

In my line of work If I make a mistake two things happen. Either we accidently make money or lose. If we lose, I pay. If we win, client keeps it.

Its my perspective. Im a fan and I don't care to pay, even for a league pass to see Melo stand on principle. If KG said something despicable does the league have a protocol to deal with it? If not, then its a mans game between professionals and the real pro's keep it together.

Melo is a star and paid like one. You think if Copeland lead the league in Tech's and acted like that his career would last very long? No. Melo is the star draw, the attraction, the face of the franchise, teh straw that stirs the drink, the guy we traded half our team for, the Starphuch and our Mooby golden calf. He has the contract and avg. 29ppg. He gets paid 20mil to do this.

As woodson said: "thank goodness its not the playoffs"

Melo sent a clear message out to the tough guys and one way to defeat Melo is to mess with his temper.

Whats he gonna do now? He going to have to deal with it. you don't pay pro's 20 mil for "teaching moments"!

well said!

dk7th wrote:

IronWillGiroud wrote:

dk7th wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:

dk7th wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:a student stands before his sensei. the sensei is holding a staff. the sensei says "if you remain standing before me i will beat you with this staff. if you run i will chase you down and beat you with this staff."

what does the student do?

Uses the ignore function?

thanks for answering the question.

What happens if instead of standing or running, he simply walks away?

getting warmer

he hugs the sensei and if he needs to he takes him to the ground, so that the sensei can't move his arms and can't strike at the student

not bad my friend but dralphaeus is clearly a man of good sense.

You honor me, sensei. >bowing<

NYKBocker wrote:

NYDiva wrote:The Daily News reported that they were 'estranged'. It was the first I'd heard of it.

If KG knew about this then KG really is 5 tool douchebag.

dk7th wrote:
sounds like you're on tilt just like melo was. jordan asserted that the game is 90% mental. garnett exploits weak-minded players when he can to gain an advantage. garnett's motivation is to win the game... apparently melo forgot this very simple fact-- that is being weak-minded and lacking in poise. hopefully melo wises up and does the only thing that will shut garnett up: play within himself and certainly ignore the trash talk-- and win the game!

Great post...

Other examples of "weak-minded" players lacking poise

Michael Jordan

Larry Bird and Dr. J

Kobe Bryant

sebstar wrote:

dk7th wrote:
sounds like you're on tilt just like melo was. jordan asserted that the game is 90% mental. garnett exploits weak-minded players when he can to gain an advantage. garnett's motivation is to win the game... apparently melo forgot this very simple fact-- that is being weak-minded and lacking in poise. hopefully melo wises up and does the only thing that will shut garnett up: play within himself and certainly ignore the trash talk-- and win the game!

Great post...

Other examples of "weak-minded" players lacking poise

Michael Jordan

Larry Bird and Dr. J

Kobe Bryant

Such a shame that Melo chose to stoop to the level of these low-iq, thug players and their base instincts. What business does Melo have acting like a human being?

sebstar wrote:Other examples of "weak-minded" players lacking poise

Michael Jordan

Larry Bird and Dr. J

Kobe Bryant

Such a shame that Melo chose to stoop to the level of these low-iq, thug players and their base instincts. What business does Melo have acting like a human being?

Whats amazing about these moments is the hometown broadcasters commentary.

Jordan is somehow totally justified in going after Reggie after a harmless little bump (which is totally upscaled to MJ being "leveled") by Miller. Then he scratches Miller & no one says anything about it.

Heinsohn, the worlds most notorious "homer" announcer, says that Bird is basically assaulted by Dr J & Malone with no mention of Bird's foul that precipitates the whole thing. FWIW Dr. J's three stiff jabs to Bird's dome are the 2nd best punches in NBA history. Kermit Washington's roundhouse to Rudy T being #1 & Chris Childs right cross to Kobe's chin being #3

and lastly the Rocket's announcers talking about Artest's bravery & not backing down to anyone. And then rightly questioning why he was assessed with a foul when Kobe started the whole thing.

It's clearly all in how an event is framed, which brings me back to the issue at hand and wanting to ask the question "why are so many here so willing to suck at the teat of KG's supposed greatness???" Where is the outrage that our star player was fouled 4-5 times before the play escalated into double techs? Where is the anger at KG speaking out about a player's personal life in such a disrespectful manner that if he had been in a bar in Texas or Florida (or one of those other Stan Your Ground states) it might've escalated into a shootout?? Where is our level of fan dedication & Homerism???

gunsnewing wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:I don't blame Melo for losing it during the game. Someone should have tried to talk him down after it was over. Im not sure if anyone did. Sure doesn't look that way.

That is the biggest problem. No one stepped up. His own teammates let him hang himself. I'm sure they heard what KG said. If KG knows whats going on with lala than I'm sure his melo's teammates do too. They should have stuck up for him. Eventhough Sheed, Felton and Shump were in street cloths

Yeah. I was a little disappointed with how Melo's teammates reacted or rather their non-reaction.