CrushAlot wrote:

3G4G wrote:

tkf wrote:

3G4G wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/8204/whats-the-point-melo-as-the-facilitator

"Whereas it's customary for Melo to first touch the ball 15 to 20 feet out, now he's bringing it up the court and facilitating. He said he's excited about his new role and using the preseason to feel out his new teammates' positioning in halfcourt sets.
"For me to have the ball in my hands and to run the offense, I kind of enjoy doing that," Anthony said. "I have a lot of guys that I can kick the ball to and make something happen -- get people in their position, get people in their spots and get guys where they feel comfortable at. That's something that I've been trying to do throughout this whole training camp."

Didn't he complain about running the team as a point forward coming out of the lockout season? Isn't this what D'Antoni wanted him to do to open up spacing for Amar'e?

exactly, i posted the article where he said he was uncomfortable with it.....dude is funny man..

Now.... Maidservants want to give him credit for running it Woody Hockey Assist style

You guys know this article is from 2011?

Yes we do...... yet his facilitation/facilitating this year has been glorified beyond when he rebuked this style of play in the past

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Right. As much as I hate Dantoni's coaching philosophy I think you have to wait to see what the team looks like with Nash and once Pau is traded for complimentary pieces before callig this a failure what 5 games in?

So its okay for Kobe, Howard, Gasol, to have to wait for Nash. But its Melo's fault for not being successful in the same system with Tony Douglas as his PG.

Didn't Dwight Howard lead a team to the finals practically by himself? Now he has to depend on Nash?

in the lakers case nash was brought here as part of a grand plan with specific players in mind.

knicks were not afforded that luxury with the carmelo trade.

this is another case of apples and oranges.

of course the lakers NEED nash.

and so the question remains: did the knicks truly need carmelo?

dk7th wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Right. As much as I hate Dantoni's coaching philosophy I think you have to wait to see what the team looks like with Nash and once Pau is traded for complimentary pieces before callig this a failure what 5 games in?

So its okay for Kobe, Howard, Gasol, to have to wait for Nash. But its Melo's fault for not being successful in the same system with Tony Douglas as his PG.

Didn't Dwight Howard lead a team to the finals practically by himself? Now he has to depend on Nash?

in the lakers case nash was brought here as part of a grand plan with specific players in mind.

knicks were not afforded that luxury with the carmelo trade.

this is another case of apples and oranges.

of course the lakers NEED nash.

and so the question remains: did the knicks truly need carmelo?

Come on now. Was the grand plan mike brown and the Princeton offense? The triangle? I don't think dantoni was on the radar when Nash was hired. If dantoni was the plan good luck.

Rookie wrote:Dwight says he will leave the Lakers if he doesn't think they can win a ring. Didn't take long for the wheels to fall off the bus in L.A.

"So I want to do it the best that I can and I’m going to take everything in I can to get what I can out of the NBA. Which, for me, is winning a championship," Howard said. "So if I have to play on another team or do whatever I have to do to get one, that’s my goal. This is my passion, so I’ll continue to fight."

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/12/3/3721530/dwight-howard-lakers-championship-magic

Dwight Howard's problem is his own and nobody else's. All the greatest shooting coaches in the world wouldn't be able to get him to make his free throws. Defense? you don't need a damn coach to remind you how to play defense. You play freaking DEFENSE. Either you do or you don't.

I have no idea what is going on with Pau Gasol. He's looking more and more like he's lost in the forest out there. MDA seems fixated on kicking Pau's butt and making a statement out of it.

Now Kobe is jumping on the 'blame' game. The free throws, turnovers and defense are killing the Lakers. All MDA can do is move pieces around and hope he lands on someone that is having a hot shooting night.

NUPE wrote:It's never Dantoni's fault. Dantoni never has enough pieces. Kobe, Dwight and Pau are not enough. He must have a total of five all stars / HOF's starting. LMAO! Get real. The guy is sucking.

Why not? if you have Steve Nash on your team just waiting for clearance on his injury, wouldn't you constantly talk about him coming back too? Nash is a Lakers. What else is MDA supposed to say regarding Nash? You talk about players on your team. MDA is talking about players on his team. He isn't talking about Jeremy Lin's progress.

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ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:
He said leaving PHX was a mistake.

Hindsight: He had new owners who wanted to change things, he was a free agent coach who got a bidding war going between NY and Chicago. HE was not being loved by Sarver and his croney Kerr. They

He felt a long term rebuild in NY with Walsh with a good chance to land lebron and make 24mil a good deal.

Melo made a money grab, Amare made a money grab.

Fans be real, this is a business!

Yea but he chose Chris Duhon over Derrick Rose...who does that?

It ended up to be another empty and void starphuch. If LA wants to go that route to try thats their biz.

Im not worried about him.

Even with steve nash there still going to be a bunch of mis fits, those guys just don't compliment each other..I know it was preseaon, but going 0-8 and 1-4 to start a season with that much talent can only mean one thing, they lack chemistry big time..

MDA, has again been toss a below avg pg, and thats only half his promblem..look at gasol numbers, he's avg 12pts on 42% shooting on the season, that coming from a guy who's career avg is 18.5 on 51% shooting.

Did anybody bother to read WOODSONS Q&A with steve serby in sundays NY post..He mention that if the entire team is not on board 100%, it won't work, he also mention that he had the luxury of hand picking his aquistions over the summer, getting guys that fit, guys that are smart, guys bench guys that won't require a lot of minute but can be factors when the do play..Gasol is not on board at all, he's bitching and whinning and he is a key piece on that team..

Q: Have you noticed a change in commitment from a year ago to now?

A: Yes. And a lot of that is the players that we filled in this summer to be on our ball club. We brought in some veteran guys that, their clock is ticking, too. I forgot to mention Rasheed Wallace is on this team, he has a ring, too. A lot of those veteran guys — a few of ’em — haven’t had an opportunity to win a title. Like Marcus Camby ... Raymond Felton, [Carmelo Anthony], Amar’e [Stoudemire] ... they haven’t tasted an NBA title. So, we were able to assemble guys that we thought could come in here and help us, didn’t have to worry about playing big minutes, but be a positive piece to our puzzle. And I think that’s been the difference so far this early season is the fact that we have veteran guys that are hungry ... that really believe that this team, if we stay healthy and we stay together that we got a legitimate shot.
Charles Wenzelberg/New York Post
Mike Woodson

Q: How do you get a team to believe?

A: First you gotta trust one another, and that was a big theme when we started camp. The only way you’re gonna be a team — and it’s gotta be team and win. That’s all I think about —team, win. And how that happens, you gotta trust one another and you gotta be committed.

A coach will have very little success if he doesn't have the type of players that fit his system, it's a known fact..Why do some of you keep blaming MDA for coaching a roster he had nothing to do with and expecting him to adapt..Its ridiculous to think that..

The guy essentially won 2 gold medals with his system..

knicks1248 wrote:Some people just hate without thinking..

Even with steve nash there still going to be a bunch of mis fits, those guys just don't compliment each other..I know it was preseaon, but going 0-8 and 1-4 to start a season with that much talent can only mean one thing, they lack chemistry big time..

MDA, has again been toss a below avg pg, and thats only half his promblem..look at gasol numbers, he's avg 12pts on 42% shooting on the season, that coming from a guy who's career avg is 18.5 on 51% shooting.

Did anybody bother to read WOODSONS Q&A with steve serby in sundays NY post..He mention that if the entire team is not on board 100%, it won't work, he also mention that he had the luxury of hand picking his aquistions over the summer, getting guys that fit, guys that are smart, guys bench guys that won't require a lot of minute but can be factors when the do play..Gasol is not on board at all, he's bitching and whinning and he is a key piece on that team..

Q: Have you noticed a change in commitment from a year ago to now?

A: Yes. And a lot of that is the players that we filled in this summer to be on our ball club. We brought in some veteran guys that, their clock is ticking, too. I forgot to mention Rasheed Wallace is on this team, he has a ring, too. A lot of those veteran guys — a few of ’em — haven’t had an opportunity to win a title. Like Marcus Camby ... Raymond Felton, [Carmelo Anthony], Amar’e [Stoudemire] ... they haven’t tasted an NBA title. So, we were able to assemble guys that we thought could come in here and help us, didn’t have to worry about playing big minutes, but be a positive piece to our puzzle. And I think that’s been the difference so far this early season is the fact that we have veteran guys that are hungry ... that really believe that this team, if we stay healthy and we stay together that we got a legitimate shot.
Charles Wenzelberg/New York Post
Mike Woodson

Q: How do you get a team to believe?

A: First you gotta trust one another, and that was a big theme when we started camp. The only way you’re gonna be a team — and it’s gotta be team and win. That’s all I think about —team, win. And how that happens, you gotta trust one another and you gotta be committed.

A coach will have very little success if he doesn't have the type of players that fit his system, it's a known fact..Why do some of you keep blaming MDA for coaching a roster he had nothing to do with and expecting him to adapt..Its ridiculous to think that..

The guy essentially won 2 gold medals with his system..

bold part -- wouldnt having the best players on earth have had something to do with that? i suspect they coulda won playing many diff offensive systems with that talent.