NYKBocker wrote:

Nalod wrote:Chanting "MVP" to anyone not named Durant or Lebron is just homerism.

I don't like Melo but you have to admit that he is having an MVP type season. If he continues this play and the Knicks keep winning then I don't think we can disregard his greatness.

tell me, if the suns winn 55 games, will they have a MVP candidate?

if the warriors win 55+ games will they have one?

sixers?

grizzlies?

hawks?

spurs?

kings?

mavs?

or is it just lebron, durant and of course the best pure scorer in the history of man.. carmeloooooooooooooooooooooooooo?

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Nalod wrote:Chanting "MVP" to anyone not named Durant or Lebron is just homerism.

I don't like Melo but you have to admit that he is having an MVP type season. If he continues this play and the Knicks keep winning then I don't think we can disregard his greatness.

Actually he's not having one.

Melo is shooting 44% and 35% averaging 27ppg. While his ppg is pretty darn good statistically in comparison to his other seasons his numbers aren't MVP. He happens to be on a team with a 4-0 record therefore by default he's in the race.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Nalod wrote:Chanting "MVP" to anyone not named Durant or Lebron is just homerism.

I don't like Melo but you have to admit that he is having an MVP type season. If he continues this play and the Knicks keep winning then I don't think we can disregard his greatness.

Actually he's not having one.

Melo is shooting 44% and 35% averaging 27ppg. While his ppg is pretty darn good statistically in comparison to his other seasons his numbers aren't MVP. He happens to be on a team with a 4-0 record therefore by default he's in the race.

Kobe won it while shooting 45% and 36% from three.....

Exactly.

FG% has very little to nothing to do with being MVP.

It's silly how people nitpick every single thing he can improve on when he's clearly the best player on what is hopefully one of the best teams.

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Nalod wrote:Chanting "MVP" to anyone not named Durant or Lebron is just homerism.

I don't like Melo but you have to admit that he is having an MVP type season. If he continues this play and the Knicks keep winning then I don't think we can disregard his greatness.

Actually he's not having one.

Melo is shooting 44% and 35% averaging 27ppg. While his ppg is pretty darn good statistically in comparison to his other seasons his numbers aren't MVP. He happens to be on a team with a 4-0 record therefore by default he's in the race.

Kobe won it while shooting 45% and 36% from three.....

Kobe won it for other reasons besides what his offensive numbers suggested....Kobe did not win the MVP award after 4gms.

3G4G wrote:

knickscity wrote:

3G4G wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Nalod wrote:Chanting "MVP" to anyone not named Durant or Lebron is just homerism.

I don't like Melo but you have to admit that he is having an MVP type season. If he continues this play and the Knicks keep winning then I don't think we can disregard his greatness.

Actually he's not having one.

Melo is shooting 44% and 35% averaging 27ppg. While his ppg is pretty darn good statistically in comparison to his other seasons his numbers aren't MVP. He happens to be on a team with a 4-0 record therefore by default he's in the race.

Kobe won it while shooting 45% and 36% from three.....

Kobe won it for other reasons besides what his offensive numbers suggested....Kobe did not win the MVP award after 4gms.

again, what is it with the Kobe and melo comparisons.... Two different players and from a talent perspective, not even close.... as you said, kobe did not win mpv after 4 games.. I think people need to go back and look at kobe's numbers, better yet, go back and look at some game film....this constant bringing kobe up to validate carmelo is absolutely insane!!!

kobe is as good now, towards the end of his career as carmelo is in his prime... a 27 year old kobe is head and shoulder above carmelo.. why is this even a discussion?

knickscity wrote:The poster claimed Melos play right now is too inefficient statwise.

I'm not comparing the players themselves.

both bryant and melo are the least efficient scorers in the league. the eFG% and the TS% lag well behind the likes of lbj, dirk, wade, durant.

it is one of the reasons why they have always been divisive figures, where they are overrated by many and lionized by many. my opinion has always been that bryant is overrated and he should count his blessings that he played for a franchise that has friends in high places like memphis, and that they had shaq during his prime.

knickscity wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knickscity wrote:The poster claimed Melos play right now is too inefficient statwise.

I'm not comparing the players themselves.

both bryant and melo are the least efficient scorers in the league. the eFG% and the TS% lag well behind the likes of lbj, dirk, wade, durant.

it is one of the reasons why they have always been divisive figures, where they are overrated by many and lionized by many. my opinion has always been that bryant is overrated and he should count his blessings that he played for a franchise that has friends in high places like memphis, and that they had shaq during his prime.

I wouldn't go that far on the latter.

No one has won multiple titles without superior talent.

Kobe is superior talent.

i have no quibble with his being a superior talent to melo. what they have in common is that they are overrated as scorers. bryant had a ton of help but he is a more well-rounded player whereas melo is not that well-rounded. it will be an interesting test for bryant to see how well he adapts to the presence of nash. i actually think he will adapt-- it is a question of will not a question of skill.

at the end of the day i think bryant needed more help than other championship players did and it is due directly to his scoring inefficiency.