VCoug wrote:No, the most we could have offered is around $24M over four years.

nyk4ever wrote:

JohnStarksFan wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Are there people really advocating crappy fat Felton over Lin?

Word. It's this reaction that is probably driving Lin away. At this point maybe he's better off somewhere else where the fans will appreciate him more. He ****ing revitalized this franchise and gave the fans more than anyone else for the last decade. This sucks if he isn't a Knick next year, even if he fizzled out.

wow dude it was a two-week stretch.. dude didn't even play in the playoffs. and let's not forget LIN IS THE ONE WHO SIGNED THE OFFER SHEET WITH THE ROCKETS, which included the poison pill yr3 making it nearly impossible for the knicks to match.

i like lin, i think he can be a pretty good player, but let's not act like we are letting lebron walk here. if you ask me, the book on lin is still wide-open and he has alot to prove in this league.

also: i will be happy if we are matching, i think the felton/kidd/lin pg combo can work great and accentuate each players strengths.

So you are exactly who I'm talking about, typical cynical Knicks fan who knows too much, thinks too much like a GM and not enough like a fan. And I'm calling myself out here too, because I've been like that as well. BUT, Do you remember watching those games during Linsanity? How do you let that kid go? He single-handedly resparked the love of NY Knick basketball in this city. I was working with kids at the time, and to see them talk about the Knicks, bring in basketballs, bring in the NY post for me to read and get excited about, it was something else. I mean, if we get a ring with Kidd/Felton, AWESOME, but if we don't, and this doesn't work, a lot of NYers are gonna become Nets fans and say **** this team once and for all.

FlipPoker wrote:Lin is as good as gone now. They have three point guards with Kidd, Felton and Prigioni. I guess Lin was too risky at too high a price. Houston drove up Lin's price, now they have to pay for it. Touche Houston!

Felton may end up outplaying Lin over the next few years. And at $10 million over 3 years he's a bargain. I loved what Lin did in New York, but I think this move makes a lot of sense.

Felton will NEVER outplay Lin, not consistently.

holfresh wrote:Felton is the Hizzee big babay!!!!

holfresh wrote:Felton is the Hizzee big babay!!!!

Yes, you are correct. He is as fat as Big Baby Davis.

nixluva wrote:I LOVED LINSANITY... but, that shipped sailed when Melo came back and the reality of trying to mesh the 2 styles was evident that Woody wanted to go more with a Melo Centric offense. Yeah I know Lin had some good games when he played with Melo before he went down, but it wasn't meant to last. Woody wanted a more STAT and Melo centered offense and If that's the case then they don't need Lin for that style to work. This is why adding Kidd was such a huge move. I think they felt that even Nash would've been able to thrive in a Melo Centric style given his experience in the league. I don't know if they felt as comfortable with Lin and then when you add in that HUGE 3rd year cap hit... That may have sealed it. I'll be shocked if they keep Lin. Shocked and happy, but I don't think so.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:Felton is the Hizzee big babay!!!!

man you love felton like he was lebron

It's not about Felton..Its about Amare..Key to the Knicks is getting Amare his looks...Felton/Kid will do that for sure...I want Lin back too, but think he looks for his own shot first...

holfresh wrote:

IrishKnickFan wrote:

holfresh wrote:Felton is the Hizzee big babay!!!!

man you love felton like he was lebron

It's not about Felton..Its about Amare..Key to the Knicks is getting Amare his looks...Felton/Kid will do that for sure...I want Lin back too, but think he looks for his own shot first...

Yes...and thats why Lin is not a championship type PG right now for this team, as long as Melo and Stat here. Especially not for 25 mil. I love Lin and I hope they match, but I still like the other moves they made with Kidd and Felton.

Mray20 wrote:We need a pg who can hit some shots play tough d and who can get the ball to Amare and Melo, Felton is a great choice, Lin is a shoot first point guard and he has no defense , He thrived under Dantoni where he was allowed to do whatever he wanted. Felton played under Larry Brown in the slow it down half court offense and helped take a bad team to the playoffs with the Bobcats , I have no doubt he will excel under Woodson considering he was trained by Brown and has a similar philosophy of how the game should be played . He's not gonna put up big numbers but he will play his role and play hard.

Most revisionist history of all time.

Felton is just as bad as a defender. In fact, he was run out of Charlotte by LArry Brown for being overweight and a bad defender. He didn't lead anyone to anything.

Speaking of D'Antoni's system, no player thrived under that more than Felton. Guy from mediocre to All-star in that half-season he was here and now he's back to mediocre. He wasn't "trained" by Brown. Biggest lie I've ever read yet.

Mray20 wrote:We need a pg who can hit some shots play tough d and who can get the ball to Amare and Melo, Felton is a great choice, Lin is a shoot first point guard and he has no defense , He thrived under Dantoni where he was allowed to do whatever he wanted. Felton played under Larry Brown in the slow it down half court offense and helped take a bad team to the playoffs with the Bobcats , I have no doubt he will excel under Woodson considering he was trained by Brown and has a similar philosophy of how the game should be played . He's not gonna put up big numbers but he will play his role and play hard.

I knew there was a reason I never changed my moniker or site name! I agree that Felton is a good fit but we should still match Lin and not let him go for nothing. If the rumor I heard is correct and we can find a way to trade Lin for something of value from Houston than that is a more acceptable option than just letting him walk. Either way having Felton back on board can do nothing but help.

crzymdups wrote:

FeltonandAmare wrote:

Mray20 wrote:We need a pg who can hit some shots play tough d and who can get the ball to Amare and Melo, Felton is a great choice, Lin is a shoot first point guard and he has no defense , He thrived under Dantoni where he was allowed to do whatever he wanted. Felton played under Larry Brown in the slow it down half court offense and helped take a bad team to the playoffs with the Bobcats , I have no doubt he will excel under Woodson considering he was trained by Brown and has a similar philosophy of how the game should be played . He's not gonna put up big numbers but he will play his role and play hard.

I knew there was a reason I never changed my moniker or site name! I agree that Felton is a good fit but we should still match Lin and not let him go for nothing. If the rumor I heard is correct and we can find a way to trade Lin for something of value from Houston than that is a more acceptable option than just letting him walk. Either way having Felton back on board can do nothing but help.

any rumor you heard about the Knicks matching on Lin and then trading him to Houston is wrong. Knicks cannot sign and trade with Houston now that the offer sheet is signed. Knicks, if they match Lin, could not trade him to Houston for a year.

(which, frankly, I think the Knicks should match and trade him to Houston in a year)

Trade him in a year?

If he is a bust, houston won't touch him. If he is not, NY will never part with him.