Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Kidd has value as a ballmover not ballstopper. He's a team guy. I think the biggest impact this will have is on the Lin/Melo relationship. A lot of us saw some tension between Melo and Lin last year. Kidd will defuse that and make Melo put team and winning first and still set him up enough to get his. Kidd is basically a coach on the floor at this point. It's not a sexy move, but I think it is a good move.

Starting line up opening night will be:

Lin
Kidd
Melo
Amar'e
Tyson

bench: JR, Novak, Jorts, Jeffries?, Shawne Williams?, (SHUMP)

It'd be nice if we could convince Dallas to do a sign and trade and still keep the $3M MLE to make a run at Camby.

This is an improvement of the team. Allows the pieces that are already here to mix better and that is huge.

Will feel a lot better once Lin is matched, JR is signed, Novak is signed and we hear Shump is rehabbing and getting better.

You really think there is a chance Kidd starts at SG?

to start the season with Shumpert out? yes. JR will be firepower off the bench.

And I think that lineup will likely close out most games.

it gives the knicks two ballmovers to get the ball to their two best scorers.

kidd and lin can both shoot the 3 as well. kidd basically only shoots straight away 3s at this point in his career. 85% of his shots last year were 3pt shots. but he moves the ball and defends well.

i think kidd starts the game, closes out the first half, starts the third quarter, then closes out the game. Lin will play about 35+ minutes, some with kidd, some without.

i think the knicks may add that argentian PG playing in Spain... Prigioni? to be the third string PG.

Still another week of unofficial news?

We had better match the contract for Lin, though. The thought of a Felton/Kidd backcourt "weighs" on my mind. Maybe Dallas screws around with Lin, now.

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

VCoug wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Kidd passes, rebounds, and defends well. What does Mayo do well?

Younger, better shooter, and he's not terrible with the ball in his hands. Basically, he's a better version of JR.

Younger doesn't get you points. If it did, we could get 5 year olds to play for us. Terrible with ball in hands? Like most fans, you're paying too much attention to "skill" and too little to outcome. The skill matters only if it gives you some tangible better outcome. Kidd actually had a slightly higher true shooting %. I still don't see anything Mayo does well.

Their effective fg% and true shooting% are pretty similar but Mayo is much younger and can still improve. Kidd is at the end of his career and is only going to get worse.

Chandler/Mahimini
Stoudemire/Jefferies/Harrelson
Anthony/Novak
Mayo/Jones(Smith)/Shumpert
Lin/Kidd

joec32033 wrote:Great signing. I wanted him more than Nash because he stated he was ready and willing to be a backup. He is a great teacher for Lin. I would be ecstatic if we could get Kidd in a SnT for Toney, Gadz and a second or something. I am loving the fact we kept our MLE. I think OJ Mayo is a GREAT fit at the full MLE (he is young, has solid potential, and isn't injury prone). I would resign Smith(maybe....I still would give Dantay Jones a call first), sign Mahimini to the vet min(or even a guy like Kmart), resign Novak and Jefferies...

Chandler/Mahimini
Stoudemire/Jefferies/Harrelson
Anthony/Novak
Mayo/Jones(Smith)/Shumpert
Lin/Kidd

What if Lin don't work out?

callmened wrote:im not happy with this signing...hes old and slow even though hes smart as hell...id rather have felton...hopefully this is a sign and TRADE to dallas so we can save money to get other players

Steven Hawkins is smart as hell too, I dont want his trying to guard Rondo...

holfresh wrote:How do you give a guy who played 18 years in the NBA a three year contract...

When you're desperate enough to but this is Kidd we're talking about. He isn't some has-been bench scrub. He's a seasoned pro. A veteran. A superstar. A Champion.

gunsnewing wrote:Knicks would not bring in Kidd to backup Felton. Knicks aren't crazy enough to lose Lin and $200 billion dollars

Knicks are stupid and the coach is not committed to starting Lin. But none of this makes any sense anymore. If Lin leaves, I'll definitely take a break from watching pro-ball. My interest has waned considerably as is. So - whatever.