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Bonn1997
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6/14/2012 9:44 AM
Mray20 wrote:Have you watched Wade this season and playoffs? He is up and down he can't put together a string of good games , he'll have a good second half sometimes or one good game and the next stink it up Did you watch Carmelo this season? Other than a 4 week stretch, he looked like a below average NBA player. |
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Mray20
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6/14/2012 9:50 AM
You mean this season when Melo played banged up for most of the season and then the last month single handily carried the Knicks into the playoffs by playing power forward averaging 30 points shooting 50 percent from the field and 46 percent from 3 point land without Amare and Lin? Yea he looked much better than Wade has this season
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2012 9:59 AM
That 4 week stretch merely compensated for some of the harm he did during the rest of the season. The team is still sub .500 in games Melo plays in. Tyson is the one who carried this team into the playoffs.
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JohnStarksFan
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6/14/2012 10:05 AM
Mray20 wrote:You mean this season when Melo played banged up for most of the season You're killing your own point with that one. Come on. Dude has a history of being "banged up" and it's nothing major, he's on the sideline with little injuries that stem from poor physical conditioning and poor shape that other athletes wouldn't let keep them out of the game for very long. Lord have mercy. |
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Mray20
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6/14/2012 10:08 AM
Since when is averaging 12 points 11 rebounds in april carrying a team into the playoffs?
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2012 10:12 AM
JohnStarksFan wrote:Mray20 wrote:You mean this season when Melo played banged up for most of the season You read this thread and it's hard to imagine we're talking about a player whose team is .470 with him in the lineup. |
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Mray20
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6/14/2012 10:48 AM
You're talking about a player who has been to the playoffs every single year of his career, I seem to recall Wade leading his team to the lottery a couple of times , Melo on the Knicks is a small sample this team has had alot of injuries and changes during his time here.
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JrZyHuStLa
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6/14/2012 11:19 AM
CashMoney wrote:muhaha wrote:gunsnewing wrote:muhaha wrote:Career wise, there is no comparison. Reggie is up there too. |
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2012 11:36 AM LAST EDITED: 6/14/2012 11:39 AM
Mray20 wrote:You're talking about a player who has been to the playoffs every single year of his career, I seem to recall Wade leading his team to the lottery a couple of times , Melo on the Knicks is a small sample this team has had alot of injuries and changes during his time here. More than 50% of the teams make the playoffs. That's not an accomplishment. Making the playoffs just means you're not below average. |
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JohnStarksFan
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6/14/2012 12:35 PM
Mray20 wrote:You're talking about a player who has been to the playoffs every single year of his career, I seem to recall Wade leading his team to the lottery a couple of times , Melo on the Knicks is a small sample this team has had alot of injuries and changes during his time here. Melo had guys on that roster from day 1. His rookie season he led a lot, but after that, he was the head guy, but was flanked by a lot names every year: And what was the result year after year? First round exit. 08-09 with no one else on the squad besides Michael Beasley and an injured Jermaine O'Neal, they went to the playoffs and pushed the series to 7 games against the Hawks. Then he led the next year to a first round exit with a team on his back. Let's be real, do you just wish he smiled more during games? Didn't hit the floor so much? What is it? |
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2012 12:54 PM
And it was ONE lottery year Good catch. That year was clearly an aberration in Wade's career. |
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Mray20
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6/14/2012 1:55 PM
We can go on and on but you seem like one of these guys that just doesn't like Melo and no matter what he does outside of winning a championship won't be good enough. When OKC wins in 6 and wade has 2 good games and the rest does nothing lets revisit this.
No layups!
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Bonn1997
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6/14/2012 2:02 PM
Mray20 wrote:We can go on and on but you seem like one of these guys that just doesn't like Melo and no matter what he does outside of winning a championship won't be good enough. When OKC wins in 6 and wade has 2 good games and the rest does nothing lets revisit this. You're right that I do not like the way Melo plays. It's not effective. Your last comment indicates that you don't appreciate the importance of sample size. Short of a career-ending injury to Wade, there's nothing that could happen in one playoff series to change which of the two is the better player. |
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JohnStarksFan
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6/14/2012 2:05 PM
Mray20 wrote:We can go on and on but you seem like one of these guys that just doesn't like Melo and no matter what he does outside of winning a championship won't be good enough. When OKC wins in 6 and wade has 2 good games and the rest does nothing lets revisit this. It goes beyond winning the championship. It's the way he's played for a decade. One-sided, until Woody took over. He had some of his worst shooting games when he played his best defense of his CAREER. Why? Because he didn't know how hard it would be to put in so much effort on both sides of the court. I've never liked guys who kill the stat sheet, don't distribute the ball well, and choose not to play hard-nosed D ALL the time. I actually like him more after the second half of the season, he showed some new qualities. If he can work as hard on D and getting guys openings as he has on his offensive gifts, he could be the KING of NY basketball for the next 5,6,7 years. If he does that, maybe we could have a further discussion. Until then, Wade has his number. |
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Mray20
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6/14/2012 2:06 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:Mray20 wrote:We can go on and on but you seem like one of these guys that just doesn't like Melo and no matter what he does outside of winning a championship won't be good enough. When OKC wins in 6 and wade has 2 good games and the rest does nothing lets revisit this. You're not looking at the big picture in my opinion Wade is declining do to injuries and age catching up to him and this is the beginning of it, time will tell though. No layups!
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JohnStarksFan
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6/14/2012 2:09 PM
Mray20 wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:Mray20 wrote:We can go on and on but you seem like one of these guys that just doesn't like Melo and no matter what he does outside of winning a championship won't be good enough. When OKC wins in 6 and wade has 2 good games and the rest does nothing lets revisit this. It's the same thing for Melo, he has sat out more games than Wade in the last 4 seasons, without playoffs. FACT. |