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Carmelo Anthony: Not even one of the 10 best players in the League
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loweyecue
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3/7/2012  6:16 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

Hate can ruin your happiness!!

career FG % = 45.6
Kobe = 45.4

Career pts per game = 24.7
Kobe = 25.4

FT = 7.8 attempts
Kobe = 7.9

Rebounds = both at 5.8

Rings = 0
Kobe - 5

This anti Melo thing is pretty thick today. Dudes had some bad games but he is trying on defense. Then we have the other 100M start who is doing nothing atall, though he did have himslef a good game yesterday and even showed signs on defense. Melo will be fine, I think he overthinks everything and tried to hard to fit in. Now he is in denial.

TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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skeng
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3/7/2012  6:23 PM
loweyecue wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

Hate can ruin your happiness!!

career FG % = 45.6
Kobe = 45.4

Career pts per game = 24.7
Kobe = 25.4

FT = 7.8 attempts
Kobe = 7.9

Rebounds = both at 5.8

Rings = 0
Kobe - 5

This anti Melo thing is pretty thick today. Dudes had some bad games but he is trying on defense. Then we have the other 100M start who is doing nothing atall, though he did have himslef a good game yesterday and even showed signs on defense. Melo will be fine, I think he overthinks everything and tried to hard to fit in. Now he is in denial.

well, at least Melo hasn't been suggested to come off the bench with the second unit yet.. that's at least something.

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Uptown
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3/7/2012  7:10 PM
loweyecue wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

Hate can ruin your happiness!!

career FG % = 45.6
Kobe = 45.4

Career pts per game = 24.7
Kobe = 25.4

FT = 7.8 attempts
Kobe = 7.9

Rebounds = both at 5.8

Rings = 0
Kobe - 5

This anti Melo thing is pretty thick today. Dudes had some bad games but he is trying on defense. Then we have the other 100M start who is doing nothing atall, though he did have himslef a good game yesterday and even showed signs on defense. Melo will be fine, I think he overthinks everything and tried to hard to fit in. Now he is in denial.

This board is bi-polar. Stat shows some signs of life on offense (Nobody is talking about how Dirk destroyed him on the defensive end when we took the lead) and now we turn our hate to Melo. We are always in search of someone to blame. Let Melo play a good game and Stat get one of his shots blockes tonite, and the hate will swing back to Stat. Nevermind that Teflon-Lin hasn't been playing well over the last 3-4 games. I guess salary and body language determine who is going to feel the wrath of the board next.

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3/7/2012  7:16 PM
Uptown wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

Hate can ruin your happiness!!

career FG % = 45.6
Kobe = 45.4

Career pts per game = 24.7
Kobe = 25.4

FT = 7.8 attempts
Kobe = 7.9

Rebounds = both at 5.8

Rings = 0
Kobe - 5

This anti Melo thing is pretty thick today. Dudes had some bad games but he is trying on defense. Then we have the other 100M start who is doing nothing atall, though he did have himslef a good game yesterday and even showed signs on defense. Melo will be fine, I think he overthinks everything and tried to hard to fit in. Now he is in denial.

This board is bi-polar. Stat shows some signs of life on offense (Nobody is talking about how Dirk destroyed him on the defensive end when we took the lead) and now we turn our hate to Melo. We are always in search of someone to blame. Let Melo play a good game and Stat get one of his shots blockes tonite, and the hate will swing back to Stat. Nevermind that Teflon-Lin hasn't been playing well over the last 3-4 games. I guess salary and body language determine who is going to feel the wrath of the board next.

Hate is weighted based on salary.

KnicksFE
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3/8/2012  7:56 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/8/2012  7:57 AM
skeng wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:No one that knows the Basketgame considered Melo a top player even before this year.

He was always an inefficient chucker.

I consider Hubie Brown to be one of the most knowledgeable basketball person around and he has said many times that he thinke Melo is the 2nd best pure offensive player in the league behind Durant. Enough with your hate and crap about Melo, it really ruins this forum.

I guess Hubie does not know basketball. Magic said last year that he thought that Melo was the BEST PURE SCORER in the game.
All this is, is short sighted blinded-ness

And this might be true, but tell me this, if we switched out Kevin Durantula and Melo, which player do you think would fit better with his new team? It's the question of team ball, which Melo seems unaccustomed to somehow. And that is infinitely frustrating to watch.

Sure Melo is a beast, he is arguably one of the most versatile and gifted offensive player in the NBA, unfortunately offence is just one part of the game, when he is off, he doesn’t impact the game in other ways like other TRUE SUPERSTARS do. As far as talent, Melo is a top 10 talent in the NBA, but is he a top 10 player? Personally, I don’t think so, but he still young enough, he can get there with the right mindset.

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3/8/2012  8:17 AM
crzymdups wrote:Melo clogs the floor. he makes no sense on this team. team needs a three point shooter in his spot, like Gallo or even Wilson, who can slash when needed, but spread the floor otherwise.

Melo won't spread the floor, the lane gets clogged, it's easier for opposing teams to trap the PnR with a clogged lane, the offense stalls. Melo pouts, plans his shoe line for China, wonders what Lala's next TV show will be, doesn't get down on himself, man.

Melo is a better 3pt shooter than Gallo & Wilson. Just maybe not this year.

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3/8/2012  8:26 AM
People it ain't about whether or not Melo is a great scorer. We can all agree to that. It is about his lack of leadership by example. His body language and stupidity in the Mavericks game says it all. It is about is effort on defense when he is not getting his shots...it is about how the Knicks always seem to be completely out of sync when he is on the floor....

He is a compiler...plain and simple. He needs to play hard and come up big during the end of games as a scorer...not necessarily score 28 points every night.

KnicksFE
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3/8/2012  9:08 AM
HugeKnick4 wrote:People it ain't about whether or not Melo is a great scorer. We can all agree to that. It is about his lack of leadership by example. His body language and stupidity in the Mavericks game says it all. It is about is effort on defense when he is not getting his shots...it is about how the Knicks always seem to be completely out of sync when he is on the floor....

He is a compiler...plain and simple. He needs to play hard and come up big during the end of games as a scorer...not necessarily score 28 points every night.

+1
That’s exactly what TRUE SUPERSTARTS do, they will your team to win regardless of the score. They just win.

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3/8/2012  9:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/8/2012  9:12 AM
KnicksFE wrote:
HugeKnick4 wrote:People it ain't about whether or not Melo is a great scorer. We can all agree to that. It is about his lack of leadership by example. His body language and stupidity in the Mavericks game says it all. It is about is effort on defense when he is not getting his shots...it is about how the Knicks always seem to be completely out of sync when he is on the floor....

He is a compiler...plain and simple. He needs to play hard and come up big during the end of games as a scorer...not necessarily score 28 points every night.

+1
That’s exactly what TRUE SUPERSTARTS do, they will your team to win regardless of the score. They just win.

Why is it that the Nuggets and George Karl never had this problme while they were winning 50+ games in a much more difficult western division?

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3/8/2012  9:19 AM
crzymdups wrote:Melo clogs the floor. he makes no sense on this team. team needs a three point shooter in his spot, like Gallo or even Wilson, who can slash when needed, but spread the floor otherwise.

Melo won't spread the floor, the lane gets clogged, it's easier for opposing teams to trap the PnR with a clogged lane, the offense stalls. Melo pouts, plans his shoe line for China, wonders what Lala's next TV show will be, doesn't get down on himself, man.

Melo isn't the problem in terms of clogging the floor. Chandler and Stat get in each others way more often. Chanlder wont move 5 feet from the basket and Stats jumper has been off. Both are PNR players and when one is running the pick and roll with Lin, the other one stands around.

Expalin to me why a combo of Duncan, Blair, Leonard, and Parker, all non-jump-shooters can all play on the floor at the same time and the lane conitnues to open like the red-sea for Parker?

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3/8/2012  9:39 AM
Uptown wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Melo clogs the floor. he makes no sense on this team. team needs a three point shooter in his spot, like Gallo or even Wilson, who can slash when needed, but spread the floor otherwise.

Melo won't spread the floor, the lane gets clogged, it's easier for opposing teams to trap the PnR with a clogged lane, the offense stalls. Melo pouts, plans his shoe line for China, wonders what Lala's next TV show will be, doesn't get down on himself, man.

Melo isn't the problem in terms of clogging the floor. Chandler and Stat get in each others way more often. Chanlder wont move 5 feet from the basket and Stats jumper has been off. Both are PNR players and when one is running the pick and roll with Lin, the other one stands around.

Expalin to me why a combo of Duncan, Blair, Leonard, and Parker, all non-jump-shooters can all play on the floor at the same time and the lane conitnues to open like the red-sea for Parker?

Because Duncan, Parker and Ginobli are better passers and move the ball much better than our big three.

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3/8/2012  9:40 AM
Uptown wrote:
KnicksFE wrote:
HugeKnick4 wrote:People it ain't about whether or not Melo is a great scorer. We can all agree to that. It is about his lack of leadership by example. His body language and stupidity in the Mavericks game says it all. It is about is effort on defense when he is not getting his shots...it is about how the Knicks always seem to be completely out of sync when he is on the floor....

He is a compiler...plain and simple. He needs to play hard and come up big during the end of games as a scorer...not necessarily score 28 points every night.

+1
That’s exactly what TRUE SUPERSTARTS do, they will your team to win regardless of the score. They just win.

Why is it that the Nuggets and George Karl never had this problme while they were winning 50+ games in a much more difficult western division?

Because they had a very good supporting cast which by the way continue to thrive this year without him, plus didn’t Carmelo made past the first round of the playoffs only once in his seven year with Denver (coincidently when they acquired Chancy Billups).

Look I’m not denying that Melo is very talented offensive player, but in order to be a top player you have to impact the game in more areas than just scoring. How many times have we seen Melo or Amare move out of the way when the other team is attempting a layup on a fast break? They should challenge the shot, just like Wade, Kobe, Lebron or Ginobli (he did it yesterday) do on a regular basis.

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3/8/2012  10:06 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Melo clogs the floor. he makes no sense on this team. team needs a three point shooter in his spot, like Gallo or even Wilson, who can slash when needed, but spread the floor otherwise.

Melo won't spread the floor, the lane gets clogged, it's easier for opposing teams to trap the PnR with a clogged lane, the offense stalls. Melo pouts, plans his shoe line for China, wonders what Lala's next TV show will be, doesn't get down on himself, man.

Melo is a better 3pt shooter than Gallo & Wilson. Just maybe not this year.


Melo's career % is 31.9. Gallo's is 36.9. That's not even close.
Carmelo Anthony: Not even one of the 10 best players in the League

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