nyk4ever wrote:

upstate wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

RonRon wrote:
He also said he was never given a fair shot in the rotation, no matter what he did in practice.
So you are telling me he got in game shape, in 10 games after he was traded to the TWolves....
It is your job as the Head Coach, to let them know what they must do to contribute to the team, to utilize the players and getting the most out of their production!

If he was our best defender/shot blocker, which he was, aside from Wilson Chandler which is a SF capable of playing limited minutes at PF.

so you're just assuming dantoni didn't talk to darko? i mean all of your ideas are based on assumption.

so going by your logic. d'antoni didn't like darko and although winning is always the top priority, he chose to not play darko because he didn't like him, no matter what he could have brought to the team. so now the same goes for lin, right? dantoni doesn't like lin, so he's not playing him, even though there is a gigantic hole at the pg spot. coaches want to win and that's it. do you think d'antoni really wants to get fired that badly that he's choosing not to play JEREMY LIN? there's much better ways to do it. i guess both the warriors and the rockets are idiots too because they both let lin go. there's a reason this is his third team in 3 months.

Warriors let Lin go as one of the only unguaranteed contracts in order to make an offer to DeAndre Jordan, which the Clippers matched. GS told Lin they would take him back immediately if unclaimed and gambled that he was off the radar enough to slip through waivers. GS was wrong, as Houston picked him up. Lin beat out all of the unguaranteed contracts and made Houston's opening day roster. Just as the season was about to start, Houston got into negotiations with Dalembert, and the only unguaranteed contract on the roster was Lin, so he was let go to make room for Dalembert. Many Houston fans were irate.

so if gs wanted lin back, gambled and lost out to houston, why didn't they pick him back up after houston waived him?

GS had already picked up Ish Smith by the time Lin was available, then the Knicks picked up Lin off of waivers. Later GS picked up Nate. Since Lin first signed with GS, he has never been a free agent.

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Lin's career average is 1.4 assists to .6 turnovers. Someone do the math real quick.

What's that like 14:1 assist to turnover ratio. Again, he may be a superstar. May be the greatest pg in the history of the world for all I know, but he has shown none of this in actual game action. All he has shown is the potential to one day get minutes

No, that's like 14:6, or 7:3 or 2.33:1

Thanks Ramtour. Your math skills are invaluable

If you are going to use it to prove a point, might as well not make stuff up. 2.33:1 is pretty decent, considering 3:1 is the golden standard. Thank you, please come again.

You just proved my point. At 2.33:1 he has done nothing to separate himself. He's not a great scorer, defender or shooter and his assist to turnover ratio is mediocre. So back to my original point. Maybe he's a basketball god. Maybe he's destroying everyone including Melo in practice. But my question is what is everyone actually seeing in four minutes a night in 6 meaningless games that has separated him from td and or Bibby. Are you saying its his 2.33.1 turnover ratio?

If TD and Bibby were doing the job, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The fact is that Lin has been able to produce moderately well with literally no warm up in spot duty and has shown skills that the other two do not. If you do not play Lin, you will never know what he can bring to the table.

upstate wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Lin's career average is 1.4 assists to .6 turnovers. Someone do the math real quick.

What's that like 14:1 assist to turnover ratio. Again, he may be a superstar. May be the greatest pg in the history of the world for all I know, but he has shown none of this in actual game action. All he has shown is the potential to one day get minutes

No, that's like 14:6, or 7:3 or 2.33:1

Thanks Ramtour. Your math skills are invaluable

If you are going to use it to prove a point, might as well not make stuff up. 2.33:1 is pretty decent, considering 3:1 is the golden standard. Thank you, please come again.

You just proved my point. At 2.33:1 he has done nothing to separate himself. He's not a great scorer, defender or shooter and his assist to turnover ratio is mediocre. So back to my original point. Maybe he's a basketball god. Maybe he's destroying everyone including Melo in practice. But my question is what is everyone actually seeing in four minutes a night in 6 meaningless games that has separated him from td and or Bibby. Are you saying its his 2.33.1 turnover ratio?

If TD and Bibby were doing the job, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The fact is that Lin has been able to produce moderately well with literally no warm up in spot duty and has shown skills that the other two do not. If you do not play Lin, you will never know what he can bring to the table.

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Lin's career average is 1.4 assists to .6 turnovers. Someone do the math real quick.

What's that like 14:1 assist to turnover ratio. Again, he may be a superstar. May be the greatest pg in the history of the world for all I know, but he has shown none of this in actual game action. All he has shown is the potential to one day get minutes

No, that's like 14:6, or 7:3 or 2.33:1

Thanks Ramtour. Your math skills are invaluable

If you are going to use it to prove a point, might as well not make stuff up. 2.33:1 is pretty decent, considering 3:1 is the golden standard. Thank you, please come again.

You just proved my point. At 2.33:1 he has done nothing to separate himself. He's not a great scorer, defender or shooter and his assist to turnover ratio is mediocre. So back to my original point. Maybe he's a basketball god. Maybe he's destroying everyone including Melo in practice. But my question is what is everyone actually seeing in four minutes a night in 6 meaningless games that has separated him from td and or Bibby. Are you saying its his 2.33.1 turnover ratio?

Um, I don't know why you think I proved your point. Nothing to separate himself from who? Top PG of the league? He is below the golden standard atm, sure. Do you need him to have 3:1 ratio in order for people to be able to say that he is our best,healthy, PG without you thinking that its somehow proving your point? And please spare us from going back to your original failed attempt at sarcasm, us knick fans have already been through enough pain.

This is one of those circle arguments. I'm asking what has he shown in his four minutes of meaningless play in blow outs to separate himself from tony and bibby. I'm not saying he is or isn't better. I'm asking you or anyone else what has he done on a basketball court to prove to all of us that he is our best pg and should be starting over the other three guys. There is nothing that stands out. Not assist to turnover, not shooting, not defense, not rebounding? What am I missing. Hes shown potential but no results.

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Lin's career average is 1.4 assists to .6 turnovers. Someone do the math real quick.

What's that like 14:1 assist to turnover ratio. Again, he may be a superstar. May be the greatest pg in the history of the world for all I know, but he has shown none of this in actual game action. All he has shown is the potential to one day get minutes

No, that's like 14:6, or 7:3 or 2.33:1

Thanks Ramtour. Your math skills are invaluable

If you are going to use it to prove a point, might as well not make stuff up. 2.33:1 is pretty decent, considering 3:1 is the golden standard. Thank you, please come again.

You just proved my point. At 2.33:1 he has done nothing to separate himself. He's not a great scorer, defender or shooter and his assist to turnover ratio is mediocre. So back to my original point. Maybe he's a basketball god. Maybe he's destroying everyone including Melo in practice. But my question is what is everyone actually seeing in four minutes a night in 6 meaningless games that has separated him from td and or Bibby. Are you saying its his 2.33.1 turnover ratio?

Um, I don't know why you think I proved your point. Nothing to separate himself from who? Top PG of the league? He is below the golden standard atm, sure. Do you need him to have 3:1 ratio in order for people to be able to say that he is our best,healthy, PG without you thinking that its somehow proving your point? And please spare us from going back to your original failed attempt at sarcasm, us knick fans have already been through enough pain.

This is one of those circle arguments. I'm asking what has he shown in his four minutes of meaningless play in blow outs to separate himself from tony and bibby. I'm not saying he is or isn't better. I'm asking you or anyone else what has he done on a basketball court to prove to all of us that he is our best pg and should be starting over the other three guys. There is nothing that stands out. Not assist to turnover, not shooting, not defense, not rebounding? What am I missing. Hes shown potential but no results.

He has shown results. 4 assists and 8 points, with 2 rebounds in 6 minutes is tremendous production, plus all of the assists were in the flow of running the offense, and he would've had more had a few more shots dropped. Plus he has produced in D League not only this year but all of last year (1st team D League). How are you going to see results if you don't play him?

upstate wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Lin's career average is 1.4 assists to .6 turnovers. Someone do the math real quick.

What's that like 14:1 assist to turnover ratio. Again, he may be a superstar. May be the greatest pg in the history of the world for all I know, but he has shown none of this in actual game action. All he has shown is the potential to one day get minutes

No, that's like 14:6, or 7:3 or 2.33:1

Thanks Ramtour. Your math skills are invaluable

If you are going to use it to prove a point, might as well not make stuff up. 2.33:1 is pretty decent, considering 3:1 is the golden standard. Thank you, please come again.

You just proved my point. At 2.33:1 he has done nothing to separate himself. He's not a great scorer, defender or shooter and his assist to turnover ratio is mediocre. So back to my original point. Maybe he's a basketball god. Maybe he's destroying everyone including Melo in practice. But my question is what is everyone actually seeing in four minutes a night in 6 meaningless games that has separated him from td and or Bibby. Are you saying its his 2.33.1 turnover ratio?

Um, I don't know why you think I proved your point. Nothing to separate himself from who? Top PG of the league? He is below the golden standard atm, sure. Do you need him to have 3:1 ratio in order for people to be able to say that he is our best,healthy, PG without you thinking that its somehow proving your point? And please spare us from going back to your original failed attempt at sarcasm, us knick fans have already been through enough pain.

This is one of those circle arguments. I'm asking what has he shown in his four minutes of meaningless play in blow outs to separate himself from tony and bibby. I'm not saying he is or isn't better. I'm asking you or anyone else what has he done on a basketball court to prove to all of us that he is our best pg and should be starting over the other three guys. There is nothing that stands out. Not assist to turnover, not shooting, not defense, not rebounding? What am I missing. Hes shown potential but no results.

He has shown results. 4 assists and 8 points, with 2 rebounds in 6 minutes is tremendous production, plus all of the assists were in the flow of running the offense, and he would've had more had a few more shots dropped. Plus he has produced in D League not only this year but all of last year (1st team D League). How are you going to see results if you don't play him?

Please allow me to use the phrase loweyeque used(hopefully he wouldn't mind) and I quote: "preach reason at your own peril."

EnySpree wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Lin is dfntly not a NBA starter..are you seriously joking..I agree he should see some minutes, but let's get real...give me one starting pg in currently playing that Lin is better then..that list would be microscopic

You are correct....lin is not a starting calibur point guard.

To ask if he's better than established nba starters is ****ing retarded.

To answer your need to make a point....I thought Lin was just as good if not better than any point guard on the floor last night against clevland. That includes Irving, Sessions, Gibson, Bibby, Shump and Douglas.

Really, you either was high or drunk, either way your way off..

EnySpree wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Lin is dfntly not a NBA starter..are you seriously joking..I agree he should see some minutes, but let's get real...give me one starting pg in currently playing that Lin is better then..that list would be microscopic

You are correct....lin is not a starting calibur point guard.

To ask if he's better than established nba starters is ****ing retarded.

To answer your need to make a point....I thought Lin was just as good if not better than any point guard on the floor last night against clevland. That includes Irving, Sessions, Gibson, Bibby, Shump and Douglas.

Really, you either was high or drunk, either way your way off..

either you are blind and deaf or you have time warner cable or too broke to even have cable

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