nixluva wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:nixluva wrote:mrKnickShot wrote:nixluva wrote:It's funny,to read many on this and other forums they swore the system was to just jack 3's!!! Now it's just PnR. SSOL is more than the PnR! Yes it's a core part of what is going on, but you don't have 100 plays with even more variations if it's just the PnR. The spread offense is really the reason that you can even work a PnR. If you don't have great spacing and movement then teams will stop the PnR very easily. This system was created by a PG for PG's. If you put a good PG in this system and he has the kind of Game where he can penetrate and see the floor, he can be successful. There's a pace and rhythm to this system, that makes it work very efficiently. As i've pointed out many times it was either #1 or #2 most efficient offense in the league and last year with Felton running it, it was #5. As for STAT, he's played his entire career in this system!!! Why anyone would think MDA would have trouble integrating STAT is beyond me. The only guy that plays a style that is actually the complete opposite of what this system is about is Melo. Melo is the only one that has to buy in and play within the system. If he does that we'll be very good. Only time will tell, but I believe Melo wants to be a team player. He has to adjust to what Lin is doing now and not feel he has to force things like he did with no PG. I think he will do it.
Nobody thought the system was about jacking up 3's!!!!!!!!!! Geeeez! We just hated the non-adjustments from MDA when he did not have a PNR PG and in was RAINING 3's. Bad adjustment to a team that did not fit "THE SYSTEM"
Amare should be fine hopefully but he is no longer the primary PNR guy so it is different.
Every PNR offense is a spread offense - DUH!
Watch UTAH with stockton and malone and tell that was not simple good basketball.
MDA is the new Bobby Valentine? Lets stop making him out to be a genius when he is running a simple bball play that if you have the ingredients, it WORKS!
Dude I can pull quotes from around the web forums including this one, that CLEARLY state they think it's about jackin 3's. We weren't running ANY PnR's for a while there and so people just made the assumption that all the 3's they we were taking was the offense.
As for not adjusting. It wasn't so much that he didn't adjust when he didn't have a PnR PG, as much as he didn't have a PG period!!! Mike has adjusted his offense since he's been here, but he's not going to abandon his own system that he knows has been proven to be a top offense in the league.
Also stop trying to over simplify the system by saying dumb stuff like PnR is a spread offense!!! It's just stupid to say something like that. Lot's of teams run PnR but don't use a Spread offense!!! You make it sound like this offense is just like every other offense and it's not. When you say stuff like that you make it obvious that you don't really know what this offense is.
Let me ask you this? If it was just the simple PnR, why would coach K lean on him for offensive help? Why do many other coaches come and sit in on his practices. Why would a book be devoted entirely to the system and it's plays if all it was is a simple BB play? See you don't know what you're talking about and need to stop making dumb comments.
You really need to stop sucking his wiener and get your own life. You can look at him and Idolize him, read his book and have his poster on your wall.
You are not going to sell me on him being this super genius. He is a good coach - stop selling for him. He can do it without you.
You are coming off like a wierdo sometimes.
OK now you're talking like a teenager. I'm not trying to sell you on MDA, it's his players and other coaches who say he's an offensive genius. Other coaches are taking his ideas and using them. I made a thread about that. I'm making a defense of the coach cuz you don't have any respect for what he does. You seem to think he just rolls the ball out there and stuff happens. You show a lack of understanding of what a NBA coach actually does and that this coach is better than we've seen from him in NY. Every time you give him the talent to succeed his teams look good. If you give him Duhon or TD or Bibby he can't make that look very good.
You talked crap about his system and yet you really don't know what the system is. This is about having good players to go along with a good coach, which we have. Hopefully when this team is at full strength we can have a great balance of the season and post season.
Nix, with all due respect, calling people DUMB when they don't agree with you is quite childish and unbecoming.
Coaching is hard. You need to keep ego's in check, design the right plays for the right players, adjust in-game to runs, ride hot hands, PNR, baseline screens, curls ...
NBA is not football. Bill Wash was/is a genius - buy his book. Belicheck is a genius. That is a complicated dataset that takes a tremendous amount of hard work and ingenuity.
Basketball? Yeah you have plays and designs and its not rocket science. Its mostly about how your personnel fits into plays you design. But its not the NFL - you can always make people think you are smart by talking about things that you don't know or reading a book that they did not read.
Coaching Basketball is about motivation. Pushing your players to play as a team. To play defense. To be unselfish. TO MANAGE DIVA's. That is what makes coaches great.
Yes some coach are a little bit more intuitive when it comes to design plays but don't be fooled about their genius. It's silly.
I like when JVG belittled PJax calling him Big Chief Triangle. He often spoke of this. If you have the players then you are a genius. If you don't then you are not. The triangle offense was not that complicated but it worked for the teams that he had.
PNR worked for Jerry Sloan because he had great players as part of it. Jerry Sloan was not genius. He was a damn good coach!
I respect Riley the most (not saying he's a genius because I don't know what he scored on his LSAT's) because he coached completely differently built teams in LA and NY. The run and gunners and the defensive ISO knicks and was successful at both from opposite ends of the spectrum.