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gunsnewing
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12/18/2011  11:55 PM
with that said its crazy that a guy being amnestied for having a big contract is rewarded with more money. Only in the world of sports NOT COMPLAINING THOUGH
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12/19/2011  12:41 AM
Love signing for sure

Only thing is I really hope he doesn't cut into Shump Shump's minutes

TD is most likely gonna end up 6th man and has a short bench

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12/19/2011  1:13 AM
umynot wrote:Love signing for sure

Only thing is I really hope he doesn't cut into Shump Shump's minutes

TD is most likely gonna end up 6th man and has a short bench

MDA isn't likely to play a short bench given the short season with all the back to backs and 4 in 5 nights. MDA is not stuck on any one thing as people think. He has changed his offense to suit the team we have and he'll change the rotation to deal with the lack of off days. Adding another good player will only make the team better cuz no one will have to log heavy minutes in order for this team to win. Each player can limit their minutes cuz we'll have a solid player coming in to replace them. The only real question is just how serious is his back. My guess is that the Knicks checked into it and felt comfortable that it's not so bad that he can't contribute this season.

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12/19/2011  1:35 AM
I like signing

Def won't complain one bit

Just want minutes for Iman and I can't see him not playing his way into
Role either way

BD for cheap def doesn't hurt us at all

I also hope your right bout coach. I love but he needs to step up this year or he is out for sure!

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12/19/2011  1:37 AM
i love that dan gilbert, notoriously hardline small market owner, is paying fourteen million so that baron davis can play for our ny knicks at a bargain.
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12/19/2011  1:45 AM
eViL wrote:i love that dan gilbert, notoriously hardline small market owner, is paying fourteen million so that baron davis can play for our ny knicks at a bargain.

Yes sir

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12/19/2011  2:02 AM
not sure if this has been posted yet but it's the best of the B-Diddy videos i've seen

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12/19/2011  2:14 AM
ActionJackson wrote:not sure if this has been posted yet but it's the best of the B-Diddy videos i've seen

great video. man, i'm so psyched for this season.

this feels like we could catch lightning in a bottle this season. i'm not sure to what end, but it just feels like it could be lightning in a bottle right now.

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12/19/2011  2:20 AM
This shows the difference between a real PG and a guy that just has PG size and can dribble the ball. Guys like Nash, Kidd and Davis can see the play before it happens. They create the distraction in order to setup the easy basket. All that probing of the defense has a purpose, much like a QB using the pump fake to move the secondary where he wants them to go. This is the kind of PG play that MDA has been missing. A guy that understands how to manipulate the defense. If Davis can get healthy he will totally change this teams execution on offense for the better.
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12/19/2011  2:23 AM
nixluva wrote:This shows the difference between a real PG and a guy that just has PG size and can dribble the ball. Guys like Nash, Kidd and Davis can see the play before it happens. They create the distraction in order to setup the easy basket. All that probing of the defense has a purpose, much like a QB using the pump fake to move the secondary where he wants them to go. This is the kind of PG play that MDA has been missing. A guy that understands how to manipulate the defense. If Davis can get healthy he will totally change this teams execution on offense for the better.

yeah. i'm actually happy for d'antoni. he finally has a point guard who can play his offense like a violin. felton was close and had some great stretches, but davis is on a different planet if he's healthy.

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12/19/2011  3:13 AM
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:This shows the difference between a real PG and a guy that just has PG size and can dribble the ball. Guys like Nash, Kidd and Davis can see the play before it happens. They create the distraction in order to setup the easy basket. All that probing of the defense has a purpose, much like a QB using the pump fake to move the secondary where he wants them to go. This is the kind of PG play that MDA has been missing. A guy that understands how to manipulate the defense. If Davis can get healthy he will totally change this teams execution on offense for the better.

yeah. i'm actually happy for d'antoni. he finally has a point guard who can play his offense like a violin. felton was close and had some great stretches, but davis is on a different planet if he's healthy.

We can all see all the times that TD simply misses Amar'e and Tyson rolling down the paint and no pass comes. There are so many opportunities lost. All the ball sticking and the offense coming to a grinding halt will be gone when there is a real PG in there keeping things moving. I really can't say enough how much i'd love to see what this team looks like if Davis is healthy. His presence puts everyone in their rightful spot in the backcourt. TD, Fields and Iman can concentrate on scoring and defending.

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12/19/2011  3:58 AM
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:This shows the difference between a real PG and a guy that just has PG size and can dribble the ball. Guys like Nash, Kidd and Davis can see the play before it happens. They create the distraction in order to setup the easy basket. All that probing of the defense has a purpose, much like a QB using the pump fake to move the secondary where he wants them to go. This is the kind of PG play that MDA has been missing. A guy that understands how to manipulate the defense. If Davis can get healthy he will totally change this teams execution on offense for the better.

yeah. i'm actually happy for d'antoni. he finally has a point guard who can play his offense like a violin. felton was close and had some great stretches, but davis is on a different planet if he's healthy.

We can all see all the times that TD simply misses Amar'e and Tyson rolling down the paint and no pass comes. There are so many opportunities lost. All the ball sticking and the offense coming to a grinding halt will be gone when there is a real PG in there keeping things moving. I really can't say enough how much i'd love to see what this team looks like if Davis is healthy. His presence puts everyone in their rightful spot in the backcourt. TD, Fields and Iman can concentrate on scoring and defending.

TD will have a lot of value on another team. I don't think he fits here anymore. I don't think he's a bad player either. I'd rather give Fields and Shump minutes at the two. I also think TD could net some project forward or a veteran that could spell Melo/Amar'e/Chandler on the second night of a back-to-back

Wouldn't the Pistons consider, at least, a Bew Wallace for TD swap?

How about a Larry Sanders for TD and change?

Or a sign and trade for Dante Cunnigham?

I like TD, but he's a luxury at this point. My prefered luxury would be for someone to take minutes away from our three studs--especially Amear--during this condensed season so they are rested come the Playoffs

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12/19/2011  8:09 AM
I think we will see a few very good years from this guy. He loves the spot light and he's no dummy either. He's going to put himself in a good position. That means study, get in great shape and enjoy running the Knicks and competing for a title. This will really help our depth.

Im pumped. Ive always liked his game. Yea... I know he's hurt a lot but the guy can play and he likes to WIN.

This is a great situation for him and people that think this guy is lazy will be shocked, I promise that.

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12/19/2011  8:13 AM
fishmike wrote:I think we will see a few very good years from this guy. He loves the spot light and he's no dummy either. He's going to put himself in a good position. That means study, get in great shape and enjoy running the Knicks and competing for a title. This will really help our depth.

Im pumped. Ive always liked his game. Yea... I know he's hurt a lot but the guy can play and he likes to WIN.

This is a great situation for him and people that think this guy is lazy will be shocked, I promise that.

you feelin better about this team yet fishy?

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12/19/2011  8:17 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:
nixluva wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
nixluva wrote:This shows the difference between a real PG and a guy that just has PG size and can dribble the ball. Guys like Nash, Kidd and Davis can see the play before it happens. They create the distraction in order to setup the easy basket. All that probing of the defense has a purpose, much like a QB using the pump fake to move the secondary where he wants them to go. This is the kind of PG play that MDA has been missing. A guy that understands how to manipulate the defense. If Davis can get healthy he will totally change this teams execution on offense for the better.

yeah. i'm actually happy for d'antoni. he finally has a point guard who can play his offense like a violin. felton was close and had some great stretches, but davis is on a different planet if he's healthy.

We can all see all the times that TD simply misses Amar'e and Tyson rolling down the paint and no pass comes. There are so many opportunities lost. All the ball sticking and the offense coming to a grinding halt will be gone when there is a real PG in there keeping things moving. I really can't say enough how much i'd love to see what this team looks like if Davis is healthy. His presence puts everyone in their rightful spot in the backcourt. TD, Fields and Iman can concentrate on scoring and defending.

TD will have a lot of value on another team. I don't think he fits here anymore. I don't think he's a bad player either. I'd rather give Fields and Shump minutes at the two. I also think TD could net some project forward or a veteran that could spell Melo/Amar'e/Chandler on the second night of a back-to-back

Wouldn't the Pistons consider, at least, a Bew Wallace for TD swap?

How about a Larry Sanders for TD and change?

Or a sign and trade for Dante Cunnigham?

I like TD, but he's a luxury at this point. My prefered luxury would be for someone to take minutes away from our three studs--especially Amear--during this condensed season so they are rested come the Playoffs


I think TD will do justice at the two. I'd rather see maybe BD/TD or BD/Shump starting and MB/Shump or MB/TD backing up. I think Fields should come off the bench for when Melo is not in the game.
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12/19/2011  8:33 AM
I think Baron will disappoint. We'll regret not waiting for Kevin Martin. What do the Knicks expect Baron to do? He doesn't have a great shot. He's an ok passer. He won't be driving to the hoop the way he used to. At least Bibby can hit his shot at a good clip.
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12/19/2011  8:39 AM
After one preseason game and a few youTube video's its time to trade TD?

Bibby/Davis at the point is a lot of talent but how full is the tank for those two?
Can either or both go big minutes in a compact season? Doubt it.

Tank has to be full in May-June.

Who plays PF when Amare sits out? Gets to bench?

does Melo slide to PF at times? Fields at SF?

5 guards is not too many.

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12/19/2011  8:42 AM
Ira wrote:I think Baron will disappoint. We'll regret not waiting for Kevin Martin. What do the Knicks expect Baron to do? He doesn't have a great shot. He's an ok passer. He won't be driving to the hoop the way he used to. At least Bibby can hit his shot at a good clip.

Kevin Martin? He won't be a free agent for another two years. Are you talking about Kenyon Martin? I don't see what signing Baron has to do with signing Kenyon. Where's Kenyon going to go, whenever he gets back from China, that will pay him more than the vet minimum? He'll be 34 by the end of the year with an extremely long injury history. He's still a useful player, especially off the bench, but he's not going to get any large contract from anyone. He'll have his choice of teams offering the vet minimum, but that's really it.

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12/19/2011  8:50 AM
Ira wrote:I think Baron will disappoint. We'll regret not waiting for Kevin Martin. What do the Knicks expect Baron to do? He doesn't have a great shot. He's an ok passer. He won't be driving to the hoop the way he used to. At least Bibby can hit his shot at a good clip.

Kevin Martin? We dont need a 2, we needed a pg. How many years must the Knicks play the waiting game? We waited for Lebron....Waited for Melo...Waited for Paul...At some point you have to push your chips in and go for it. We have the team now that if healthy, can compete with the elite and Baron was right there to be had on the cheap. Melo, Chandler and Amare are in their primes, cant wait around forever. What if the Knicks waited for Martin as you say and he signed elsewhere? Then what?

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12/19/2011  8:50 AM
VCoug wrote:
Ira wrote:I think Baron will disappoint. We'll regret not waiting for Kevin Martin. What do the Knicks expect Baron to do? He doesn't have a great shot. He's an ok passer. He won't be driving to the hoop the way he used to. At least Bibby can hit his shot at a good clip.

Kevin Martin? He won't be a free agent for another two years. Are you talking about Kenyon Martin? I don't see what signing Baron has to do with signing Kenyon. Where's Kenyon going to go, whenever he gets back from China, that will pay him more than the vet minimum? He'll be 34 by the end of the year with an extremely long injury history. He's still a useful player, especially off the bench, but he's not going to get any large contract from anyone. He'll have his choice of teams offering the vet minimum, but that's really it.

Kenyon? I guess we are always surprised what some guys command in salary in this market.

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