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Is anyone else having a hard time really LIKING Carmelo?
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misterearl
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3/1/2011  10:42 AM
Nalod wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Depends on what Moz turns into, and how soon before Billups ends up on IR.

But honestly, how can you not be filled with real man-LOVE watching that ankle breaking spin move on LePhon? Over and over. Made the King look like some old fart trying to play with the college kids in the park.

Wait, that's what I look like

I think most of us can learn to "love" Melo in time. WIlson was here 4 years and gallo almost 3. Felton and Moz won over the hearts of fans. Knick history is to embrace a hard working guy off the bench and Moz became that guy.

Its been just a few games. Give it time.

One Week Anniversary

Nalod - you make an excellent point. If some of us could learn to "like" Gallo and Chandler over three years, it is quite possible that we could grow to like Carmelo, in a year or two. When our Knicks beat Milwaukee (thanks to Toney Douglas), we liked Carmelo a LOT more than when they lost in Cleveland. Suddenly, everyone had a serious case of Trader Joe's Remorse. The Answer Man missed Gallo and Mozgov.

When Mister Big Shot stole the ball and made a HUGE three, and Shawne Williams made all his free throws like his momma told him, we liked Carmelo a lot more. Gossip columnist Marc Berman is spouting about an NBA Title.

What does it all mean?

For better or worse, Carmelo is ours and he is DEFINITELY not a thug as orangeblobman claims. orangeblob never presented a shread of evidence to back his lemon-flavored haterade.

The bad news? Gallo, Mozgov, Chandler and Felton created a bond that takes a minute to get over.

The good news? If Carmelo believes George Karl was holding his talents back in Denver, and commits to making his running buddies better to prove a point - he becomes instantly perceived as less selfish and more likable. Trust The Answer Man, the only thing Carmelo needs is to dive into the stands after one loose ball at The Garden.


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3/1/2011  10:52 AM
i'm loving melo. as far as the trade negotiations went, i see it as his taking care of business. he wasn’t on a phony love-quest like lebron and bosh. his approach speaks of swagger, confidence, the desire and balls to stand up and compete for what he wants fair and square and then to come in with one thought - delivery-time. mda was all over that after the first game when he gushed out something along the lines of, "this is what he does. place him on any court, any stage, any time and he produces like this, he delivers."

that's what i've been wanting. i liked gallo and chandler but their demeanors and abilities are way way below melo's. they could each look good and exert their wills on a game for short intermittent periods of time, but as mda said, melo is ALL about that. put him out there and he's gonna exert that will ON YOU. as does amear. as does chauncey.

i am totally effing loving this shti.

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3/1/2011  11:30 AM

I don't think melo is a thug. I think its just the fashion and where he comes from and as a young man with millions you kind of act your age. I recall Billups getting on him about "if you want to be taken seriously then take yourself more serious". I think he is working on that image a bit and perhsps being in NY will help.

Denver when Iverson was the alpha male certainly was not a great model on how to age gracefully. Iverson lost his step and did not seem to evolve his immage either. Time seemed to creep up on Iverson pretty fast.

BIllups is great and I hope he can be part of the Knicks front office in the future.

Maybe the more good guys we have the less room there is for Isiah.

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3/1/2011  12:34 PM
Nalod wrote:BIllups is great and I hope he can be part of the Knicks front office in the future.

Maybe the more good guys we have the less room there is for Isiah.

That to me is the real upside. If Billups can prevent Isaiah coming back that would make the deal worth it for me.

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3/1/2011  12:41 PM
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3/2/2011  12:51 AM
No.
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3/2/2011  1:29 AM
I think Billups in the end will wind up in Denver's front office.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/2/2011  1:40 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2011  1:42 AM
I think he's been great so far even if he hasn't played great Carmelo Anthony ball yet (although against Miami, he was damn close)..

Someone brought this up the other day though -- Melo and Fields' relationship on the court..I didn't think too much of it at the time but then last night I saw a little something..Anyone catch Melo in the 2nd half when he threw the ball out of bounds when Landry made that quick cut to the basket?? Kinda weird--instead of saying my bad or nothing at all, it looked like he got all pissy with Fields right there as if to say 'you should've been there.' He had no right to get like that if that was the case--HE THREW THE BALL AWAY..Wasn't Landry's fault..Maybe nothing but just something to keep an eye on..

Otherwise, no problem with the guy at all...Not only is he a monster scorer but I think the other parts to his game, namely his passing a rebounding, are very underrated..Not saying he's LeBron or Kobe, he's not, but surprisingly he actually does have some ability to make others better with his passing ability..He didn't have a good one tonight and that was a key reason we lost but that's gonna happen..Dude's still a phenomenal player..

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3/2/2011  3:49 AM
It's mostly chemistry stuff. The Knick role players don't know where they fit in anymore. Fields used to get a certain amount of touches. He used know when to make a cut or when a shot was going up from the other guys and he should crash the boards. Right now he's not sure what's happening, cuz he doesn't know Billups or Melo and when they're gonna actually shoot the ball. Melo holds it a lot and that is hard to time, plus you don't know if he's gonna drive or not. Melo needs space, so Fields has to stay put and wait. It's gonna take a lot more time for everyone to figure out what the rhythm of this new group is. Now there are totally new dynamics.
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3/2/2011  10:29 AM
Finestrg wrote:I think he's been great so far even if he hasn't played great Carmelo Anthony ball yet (although against Miami, he was damn close)..

Someone brought this up the other day though -- Melo and Fields' relationship on the court..I didn't think too much of it at the time but then last night I saw a little something..Anyone catch Melo in the 2nd half when he threw the ball out of bounds when Landry made that quick cut to the basket?? Kinda weird--instead of saying my bad or nothing at all, it looked like he got all pissy with Fields right there as if to say 'you should've been there.' He had no right to get like that if that was the case--HE THREW THE BALL AWAY..Wasn't Landry's fault..Maybe nothing but just something to keep an eye on..

Otherwise, no problem with the guy at all...Not only is he a monster scorer but I think the other parts to his game, namely his passing a rebounding, are very underrated..Not saying he's LeBron or Kobe, he's not, but surprisingly he actually does have some ability to make others better with his passing ability..He didn't have a good one tonight and that was a key reason we lost but that's gonna happen..Dude's still a phenomenal player..

Yup. I was the one that posted that. I really don't think Melo likes Fields. Maybe it is association with the Knugget 4. I don't know.

Melo screaming at Fields for a TO he commited was tactless.

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3/2/2011  11:33 AM
Yeah, I have to admit that I'm struggling to like Carmelo.

One of the things I loved so much about alot of the guys we shipped out was that they were good guys. They played hard on both ends of the floor and hustled.

Watching the game last night, I saw a few times where Melo was more concerned with arguing a non-call instead of getting back on defense. That kind of stuff KILLS me.

Also, I cant forget Melo sucker punching Mardy Collins and then running away from Jared Jeffries.

He's a better player than Gallo or Chandler or Felton or Mozgov, I know, but I still miss the "good guy" feeling that they gave off when I would watch them.

I think maybe I just need some time. I know I can get behind Melo if he can play hard and win, but otherwise, I feel like he's just hard to support the way those other guys were.

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3/2/2011  11:40 AM
jrodmc wrote:Depends on what Moz turns into, and how soon before Billups ends up on IR.

But honestly, how can you not be filled with real man-LOVE watching that ankle breaking spin move on LePhon? Over and over. Made the King look like some old fart trying to play with the college kids in the park.

Wait, that's what I look like

Some kid tried to that move on me. I hit him in the gonads. That will teach him.

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3/2/2011  11:46 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/2/2011  11:46 AM
Nalod wrote:
I don't think melo is a thug. I think its just the fashion and where he comes from...

That fashion is thug fashion. It's a culture that eschews education and law and order in favor of criminality and chaos.

Case: Carmelo in the stop snitching thing.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
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3/2/2011  11:54 AM
orangeblobman wrote:
Nalod wrote:
I don't think melo is a thug. I think its just the fashion and where he comes from...

That fashion is thug fashion. It's a culture that eschews education and law and order in favor of criminality and chaos.

Case: Carmelo in the stop snitching thing.

"That fashion is thug fashion"

orangeblob - precisely what "thug fashion" are you talking about?

Speaking of fashion, do you define Dior's ex lead man John Galliano as a thug?

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3/2/2011  11:56 AM
misterearl wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Nalod wrote:
I don't think melo is a thug. I think its just the fashion and where he comes from...

That fashion is thug fashion. It's a culture that eschews education and law and order in favor of criminality and chaos.

Case: Carmelo in the stop snitching thing.

"That fashion is thug fashion"

orangeblob - precisely what "thug fashion" are you talking about?

Speaking of fashion, do you define Dior's ex lead man John Galliano as a thug?

The fashion Nalod was talking about, precisely that fashion.

WE AIN'T NOWHERE WITH THIS BUM CHOKER IN CARMELO. GIVE ME STARKS'S 2-21 ANY DAY OVER THIS LACKLUSTER CLUSTEREFF.
misterearl
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3/2/2011  12:05 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
misterearl wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Nalod wrote:
I don't think melo is a thug. I think its just the fashion and where he comes from...

That fashion is thug fashion. It's a culture that eschews education and law and order in favor of criminality and chaos.

Case: Carmelo in the stop snitching thing.

"That fashion is thug fashion"

orangeblob - precisely what "thug fashion" are you talking about?

Speaking of fashion, do you define Dior's ex lead man John Galliano as a thug?

The fashion Nalod was talking about, precisely that fashion.

C'mon orangeblobman, don't hide behind Nalod. Speak for yourself and please cite the fashion elements that you label as thug-like.

You have yet to cite one valid example of Carmelo Anthony's behavior, or style, to back your labelling him as a thug.

Not one.

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3/2/2011  12:17 PM
OBM,

When he broke in the The NBA He looked like all many urban "stars" look like. We all get were it comes from but it also evolved into culture as a fashion. Lots of things do. Dumb ass looking white kids growing dreads, putting gauges in their ears, pierceings all originate from anothers culutre.

Its not that you speak an untruth, its just the placement and intensity by which you are installing into a conversation.

Yeah, Melo looked gangster a few years ago. Now he is married with kid and trying to be like Jay-Z with high fashion sense and a big stage in NY.

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3/2/2011  12:52 PM
You gotta admit, the headband has to go.
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3/2/2011  12:56 PM
BlueSeats wrote:You gotta admit, the headband has to go.

BTW, headbands are anti-thug. I find them downright deeb. (Except on Kurt Rambis)

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3/2/2011  1:01 PM
misterearl wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
misterearl wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
Nalod wrote:
I don't think melo is a thug. I think its just the fashion and where he comes from...

That fashion is thug fashion. It's a culture that eschews education and law and order in favor of criminality and chaos.

Case: Carmelo in the stop snitching thing.

"That fashion is thug fashion"

orangeblob - precisely what "thug fashion" are you talking about?

Speaking of fashion, do you define Dior's ex lead man John Galliano as a thug?

The fashion Nalod was talking about, precisely that fashion.

C'mon orangeblobman, don't hide behind Nalod. Speak for yourself and please cite the fashion elements that you label as thug-like.

You have yet to cite one valid example of Carmelo Anthony's behavior, or style, to back your labelling him as a thug.

Not one.

You have to admit, that the Carmelo punch on Mardy Collins while he was looking the other way is slightly thuggish, even if it happened years ago.

Is anyone else having a hard time really LIKING Carmelo?

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