Uptown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:For all those claiming that they know based upon the situation or interview.....they are talking out there asses....There is no way to know what Donnie felt about the trade. However we do have experience to draw upon. Facing similar pressure to salary dump in order to make room for a potential LBJ signing - Donnie gave up too much in the Hill trade. Therefore a rational person could surmise that given a pressure situation of potentially losing Melo to the Nets (whether it was a bluff or not) Donnie in fact would be agreeable to do the Melo trade based upon previous experience with the Knicks.

Stop shilling--Walsh hated this deal--every last individual here and hardcore fans knows it. the media knows it--so sit down and SU :)

So you are going to believe phantom sources and people who spend half thier days posting on sports forums over Walsh own words? Words from a man who most say has great integrity, is honest and professional. At this point, anyone still spewing this garbage is just looking for reasons to get upset and pick at the franchise.

Uptown--no one in big business is 100% honest. He hated the trade. “I’m assuming Isiah’s getting ready for the NCAA Tournament,” Walsh said of the Florida International University coach, whose team is 9-17. “That’s what I’m assuming.”

BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:For all those claiming that they know based upon the situation or interview.....they are talking out there asses....There is no way to know what Donnie felt about the trade. However we do have experience to draw upon. Facing similar pressure to salary dump in order to make room for a potential LBJ signing - Donnie gave up too much in the Hill trade. Therefore a rational person could surmise that given a pressure situation of potentially losing Melo to the Nets (whether it was a bluff or not) Donnie in fact would be agreeable to do the Melo trade based upon previous experience with the Knicks.

Stop shilling--Walsh hated this deal--every last individual here and hardcore fans knows it. the media knows it--so sit down and SU :)

So you are going to believe phantom sources and people who spend half thier days posting on sports forums over Walsh own words? Words from a man who most say has great integrity, is honest and professional. At this point, anyone still spewing this garbage is just looking for reasons to get upset and pick at the franchise.

Uptown--no one in big business is 100% honest. He hated the trade. “I’m assuming Isiah’s getting ready for the NCAA Tournament,” Walsh said of the Florida International University coach, whose team is 9-17. “That’s what I’m assuming.”

That quote is hilarious. It's an example of how much of a failure Isiah is. He's been a loser since retirement.

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

foosballnick wrote:Says this board. Only point of reference that matters in this debate.

Well then I'd asked the board exactly what they expected Houston to accept to take on Jeffries (who has been mostly dead weight for them since acquired.)

Jordan Hill alone?

Maybe just a pick or maybe just Hill or maybe just a pick and the right to swap picks. Hill is starting to play very well for Houston. He essentially lost his rookie year and when he was traded to Houston Battier noted this fact last year. Hill was mishandled in NY. If he got the love Moz got here he might still be in NY or the Knicks might still have a first round pick. This topic has been discussed ad nauseum on this forum.

Papabear Says

Blame D'Antoni for that. Also blame Walsh for not saying a damn thing about what was doing.

Papabear wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:For all those claiming that they know based upon the situation or interview.....they are talking out there asses....There is no way to know what Donnie felt about the trade. However we do have experience to draw upon. Facing similar pressure to salary dump in order to make room for a potential LBJ signing - Donnie gave up too much in the Hill trade. Therefore a rational person could surmise that given a pressure situation of potentially losing Melo to the Nets (whether it was a bluff or not) Donnie in fact would be agreeable to do the Melo trade based upon previous experience with the Knicks.

Stop shilling--Walsh hated this deal--every last individual here and hardcore fans knows it. the media knows it--so sit down and SU :)

So you are going to believe phantom sources and people who spend half thier days posting on sports forums over Walsh own words? Words from a man who most say has great integrity, is honest and professional. At this point, anyone still spewing this garbage is just looking for reasons to get upset and pick at the franchise.

Uptown--no one in big business is 100% honest. He hated the trade. “I’m assuming Isiah’s getting ready for the NCAA Tournament,” Walsh said of the Florida International University coach, whose team is 9-17. “That’s what I’m assuming.”

That quote is hilarious. It's an example of how much of a failure Isiah is. He's been a loser since retirement.

Papabear Says

Dudley Childs please please! let Zeke go. There is nothing you can do about it. Zeke isn't thinking about you. He has his millions. Please let it go. Thats all you talk about is Isiah. What If Isiah came back you will stop being a Knick?

Look at you stalking every Isiah insult and trying to defend him. You're doing the same crap. Stop showing your lovefest for Thomas. Nobody cares.

BRIGGS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

foosballnick wrote:For all those claiming that they know based upon the situation or interview.....they are talking out there asses....There is no way to know what Donnie felt about the trade. However we do have experience to draw upon. Facing similar pressure to salary dump in order to make room for a potential LBJ signing - Donnie gave up too much in the Hill trade. Therefore a rational person could surmise that given a pressure situation of potentially losing Melo to the Nets (whether it was a bluff or not) Donnie in fact would be agreeable to do the Melo trade based upon previous experience with the Knicks.

Stop shilling--Walsh hated this deal--every last individual here and hardcore fans knows it. the media knows it--so sit down and SU :)

So you are going to believe phantom sources and people who spend half thier days posting on sports forums over Walsh own words? Words from a man who most say has great integrity, is honest and professional. At this point, anyone still spewing this garbage is just looking for reasons to get upset and pick at the franchise.

Uptown--no one in big business is 100% honest. He hated the trade. “I’m assuming Isiah’s getting ready for the NCAA Tournament,” Walsh said of the Florida International University coach, whose team is 9-17. “That’s what I’m assuming.”

Walsh is a great builder and understands the value of pieces, and its becoming quite clear that there was NOT a better deal that he could have made for Melo, because Melo himself thought he was going to NJ and did agree to sign there. At the end of the day the Nuggets liked the Knicks package better. They got 4 good pieces and saved like $18mm.

The question is simple Melo for that cost or no Melo, and Walsh chose Melo. Did Dolan say he wants to be here go get him? I'm sure he did which is in an owners right. Melo is a diva and he's clearly a tier below Lebron and even Amare for that matter. I would call him top 15 and not top 10, but he's clearly in the discussion. We all know those are the hardest players to get and the dude is 26 and WANTS to be here on this team in this town.

This is not how I would have tried to build this team but it doesnt mean its wrong, and Walsh is the most important piece here, because Jordan Hill pick aside the only reason we were in this was because of Walsh's ability to evaluate talent and get guys.

I understand your pissed. I was also, and will really miss those guys. You cant blame Melo for the deal that brought him here. Like I said.. the guys wants to be a Knick. Give him a shot. Finally, the other guy who really wants him here? Amare. That says something as well.