GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Dantonis system is designed for reaching only the Conference Finals while simultaneously letting his players have offensive freedom.

It's not designed to win championships, simply because he hasn't won any.

Jerry Sloan's system is designed for reaching only the Conference Finals while simultaneously letting his players have offensive freedom.

It's not designed to win championships, simply because he hasn't won any.

You could insert this quote about any coach not named Phil Jackson/Greg Popovich/Pat Riley.

There's only one champion every year. It doesn't really make sense to say that every other coach other than the coach of the winning teams has a that isn't designed to win championships.

In the past decade, the Lakers or Spurs have won 7 times. The other 3 who got just one were Miami, Detroit, and Boston. Does that mean every other coaching staff just sucked?

Since the 80s the huge majority of Championships have been won by just a few teams: The Lakers, the Celtics, The Bulls, the Pistons and the Spurs.

That's 30 years where out of 30 championships available 5 teams won TWENTY SIX of them. The lone teams that are the exceptions are Wade's Heat, Hakeem's two rocket teams, and Moses Malones 76ers team. That's it

good post

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Dantonis system is designed for reaching only the Conference Finals while simultaneously letting his players have offensive freedom.

It's not designed to win championships, simply because he hasn't won any.

Jerry Sloan's system is designed for reaching only the Conference Finals while simultaneously letting his players have offensive freedom.

It's not designed to win championships, simply because he hasn't won any.

You could insert this quote about any coach not named Phil Jackson/Greg Popovich/Pat Riley.

There's only one champion every year. It doesn't really make sense to say that every other coach other than the coach of the winning teams has a that isn't designed to win championships.

In the past decade, the Lakers or Spurs have won 7 times. The other 3 who got just one were Miami, Detroit, and Boston. Does that mean every other coaching staff just sucked?

Since the 80s the huge majority of Championships have been won by just a few teams: The Lakers, the Celtics, The Bulls, the Pistons and the Spurs.

That's 30 years where out of 30 championships available 5 teams won TWENTY SIX of them. The lone teams that are the exceptions are Wade's Heat, Hakeem's two rocket teams, and Moses Malones 76ers team. That's it

great post.. the ignorance of alot of posters is funny.

maybe we should just let phil jackson, riley and pop have teams in the league and they can coach against each other since no other coaching strategy will work.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:This is correct as well. Since Sloan couldn't win with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, his system was a failure when it came to winning championships, similarly to Dantoni.

did you watch that finals? did his team lose to a superior team?

JrZyHuStLa wrote:What better proof than championships can you possibly have to judge the success and philosophy of coaching?

I can't make this any easier.

Marv wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:What better proof than championships can you possibly have to judge the success and philosophy of coaching?

I can't make this any easier.

i think you mean you couldn't dumb this down any further.

Started drinking a lil early today did we?

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:The biggest thing I saw that we could knock MDA on was not playing Moz in the 4th, though it was Foye who flat out killed the Knicks late in game. I thought whomever was guarding him, Fields most of the time, switched off of him too easily, and that left Amare on the perimeter.

For me, I grade rookies on a bit of a sliding scale, and as long as they give tremendous effort, I can look past mistakes. Moz and Fields fit into that category last night, give or take.

However, Gallo and Felton stunk it up. And perhaps Chandler too.

I watched Gallo watch a rebound come off the rim as he stood there and watched LAC go after the ball when he was just as close to anyone to it.

Felton, almost all-star, still thinks it's a good idea to make a 40" pass to Amare on the move? Come on. Take a long distance shot with 20 seconds on the clock without first going to your bread and butter? And how many shaky passes can one guy make as a PG... you learn to not make those during college or your first year in the pros.

Chandler and Gallo settle. They show up for 1 quarter and think it's OK. It's Curry'itis. They think it's OK to be an average team. Not good.

BTW, Amare's comments after the game? IMHO directed at Gallo, Felton, Chandler.

What are you expecting your asking player that are not consistent to be consistent. Gallo is not consistent, Felton is who we thought he was and Chandler is in his own world right now this guy is spaced out. Your asking these guys who are never gonna be stars to be stars. The next coach that comes in here will put Gallo out, this guy is coat tailing MDA the next coach that comes in here will treat him like Kyle Korver. As for Felton somewhere down the line he made himself into the second option. Felton is best when every one else is doing their thing well. When player around you are inconsistent then he tries to take over the game. Get Felton a consistent player and you will see Felon get back to playing the way he did earlier he is not a second option.

well, your disdain for Gallo is obvious; to compare him to Korver shows a true lack of honest observation.

I take the opposite tact with Felton, I think HE should be the rock around inconsistent and young guys like Gallo, Fields, and Chandler. He should be making their life easier. Felton gives the ball up to Amare on the elbow and then goes away from him and watches. He makes bad passes in traffic or feeds the ball to guys at the worst times or when the are not ready. I want him to step up and act like a captain of the team.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:This is correct as well. Since Sloan couldn't win with 2 first ballot Hall of Famers, his system was a failure when it came to winning championships, similarly to Dantoni.

I dunno about that. If you just stuck Jordan on the Jazz and put ONE of Malone or Stockton on the Bulls we'd probably be talking about the great old Jazz Dynasty.

Put the triangle offense on Cleveland and they'd still suck...

I'm just trying to make a point that there are a ton of diff factors (including dumb LUCK) that lead to dynasties or even one championship season and it's just not as black and white as you're making it out to be with the coaching thing.

Imagine Jordan and Malone... WOW

Vmart wrote:As for Felton somewhere down the line he made himself into the second option. Felton is best when every one else is doing their thing well. When player around you are inconsistent then he tries to take over the game. Get Felton a consistent player and you will see Felon get back to playing the way he did earlier he is not a second option.

agreed

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Olbrannon wrote:

nixluva wrote:

DrAlphaeus wrote:nixluva to the rescue with the feel-good! I just can't get all doom-and-gloom just yet while we still have a winning record. How many Februaries has it been since that was the case?

I'm just being realistic. This team wasn't built to be a shutdown defensive team. We beat teams by outscoring them and playing smart and efficient BB. Now we've been looking to add Melo who will only further cement that this is an offensive team. Unless we don't get him and then can go for a big and PG. Otherwise we'd be doubling down on the offensive team we already have and making it more potent with Melo.

I know it looks like we lost on D, but really it was horrid offense. We can't miss that many open shots and expect to win.

this game against the Clips' is the first time I recall ever seeing Gallo wide open just beyond the arc and looking for someone to pass to....

TD led that comeback from 20 down when he came on the floor. BTW he was a +16 for the game. Not everyone was terrible. Noticed also once Felton expecting Moz to go one way and he goes the other so Felton ran something else. Everyone needs to be on the same page.

love gallo's runs to the hoop being his go-to move now. his 3 point shot is seriously broke. i hope he recovers it because that’s quite a combination. but in the meantime i'm seriously glad he's chilling with it.

Gallo would be an awesome mid range shooter like Dirk. He shoots 90% from the line and is 6-10. Stop basing your game beyond the 3 pt line and use your talent from 14-18 feet with an occasional 3. This is the MDA *system* to take a player and force him to extend back beyond the 3 pt line--its not sustainable. Do you think these guys go on cold streaks because they are really forced to out up so many 3's YES. The offensive and defensive themes stink. They fired Don Nelson after 30 games with a winning record. This team needs new direction. Someone who will include Randolph-- find more efficient offense devalue the 3 pt line by 50% and put more emphasis on defense and rebounding. This is not just one area--the team is coached poorly. Why didnt we call timeout the other game down 2 with 9 seconds left? Then they blame it on Shawne Williams he didnt take a difficult 3--nope coach shouldve used a time out and set up a play. Looked like Dolan was pirsed those last 2 minutes if you rewatch the tape when they happened to throw the camera on him.

I like Gallo but I don't see a mid range player. To many things have to be right for him to get his shot off. His shooting form screams set shot shooter it is slow and methodical at best. That is why three point shots are his favorite type of shots he can do his little wind up and shoot. One thing you will never see from Gallo is him take two or three dribbles get to a spot and let it fly. Another thing you won't see is dribble and pull up and shoot a jumper in any ones face. Fade away jumper not likely. If you look at Gallo without biased eyes you will realize that his game is pretty weak. He has good skills.

Biased eyes?...... Or hater glasses?

Gallo's game is weak?

No mid range game?

Gallo gets the Fourth most touches on this team...... A fact mind you not a dumb opinion but actual stat.
He gets to line more then anyone other then Amare on our team..... Oh Amare avg's 26 points a game mind you!

Gallo has more Game saving defensive plays then anyone on our team!!

Has hit most 3's ..... Is in fact shooting the best from the stripe!

Another FACT is this is Gallo's second full season and he is playing better ball then anyone in his draft not
Named Rose or Westbrook

Gallo has a ton of talent a huge heart and balls as big as elephant nuts!!

Yet he is called weak!!

Crazy and extremely dumb!!

I watched game @ 3 am last night and yes Gallo had a bad night from the field
He looked sluggish!

But he managed 21 points
14 ft's
Some sweet assists
Decent D

But nowhere do u see weak in Gallo's game

Not in any aspect of his game!!

umynot wrote:

martin wrote:

Vmart wrote:

martin wrote:The biggest thing I saw that we could knock MDA on was not playing Moz in the 4th, though it was Foye who flat out killed the Knicks late in game. I thought whomever was guarding him, Fields most of the time, switched off of him too easily, and that left Amare on the perimeter.

For me, I grade rookies on a bit of a sliding scale, and as long as they give tremendous effort, I can look past mistakes. Moz and Fields fit into that category last night, give or take.

However, Gallo and Felton stunk it up. And perhaps Chandler too.

I watched Gallo watch a rebound come off the rim as he stood there and watched LAC go after the ball when he was just as close to anyone to it.

Felton, almost all-star, still thinks it's a good idea to make a 40" pass to Amare on the move? Come on. Take a long distance shot with 20 seconds on the clock without first going to your bread and butter? And how many shaky passes can one guy make as a PG... you learn to not make those during college or your first year in the pros.

Chandler and Gallo settle. They show up for 1 quarter and think it's OK. It's Curry'itis. They think it's OK to be an average team. Not good.

BTW, Amare's comments after the game? IMHO directed at Gallo, Felton, Chandler.

What are you expecting your asking player that are not consistent to be consistent. Gallo is not consistent, Felton is who we thought he was and Chandler is in his own world right now this guy is spaced out. Your asking these guys who are never gonna be stars to be stars. The next coach that comes in here will put Gallo out, this guy is coat tailing MDA the next coach that comes in here will treat him like Kyle Korver. As for Felton somewhere down the line he made himself into the second option. Felton is best when every one else is doing their thing well. When player around you are inconsistent then he tries to take over the game. Get Felton a consistent player and you will see Felon get back to playing the way he did earlier he is not a second option.

well, your disdain for Gallo is obvious; to compare him to Korver shows a true lack of honest observation.

I take the opposite tact with Felton, I think HE should be the rock around inconsistent and young guys like Gallo, Fields, and Chandler. He should be making their life easier. Felton gives the ball up to Amare on the elbow and then goes away from him and watches. He makes bad passes in traffic or feeds the ball to guys at the worst times or when the are not ready. I want him to step up and act like a captain of the team.

He missed Moz at least 5 times WIDE OPEN UNDER BASKET last night

I really want to lay off Felton cause he is exceeding my expectations from him BUT......

In everyone of our losses Felton has had biggest impact in loss.
Both on offense but also on D

Foye killed us last night and guards in general have been schooling us!

In the Clutch he strictly relies on Amare and we have been most predictable team in NBA

He does not even look at anyone else..... Its either Amare or himself!!

Again not hating on Felton but that is what I see ..... Gallo has been getting ball
more in 4th to mix things up so I believe the coach has noticed as well!!

Gallo had plenty of scoring opportunities last night, took 13 shots & went to the line 14 times... 20 attempts in total means he was getting the ball plenty... unfortunately he could only make 3 of those 13 shot attempts & only 1 from beyond 3 pt range out of the 8 he took... his FT shooting has been huge but his shooting in general has been way off the past 4 games... could be 1 of the main reasons why Felton doesn't feel he can rely on anyone else but Amare.