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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
![]() martin wrote:TMS wrote:martin wrote:TMS wrote:martin wrote:TMS wrote:Andrew wrote:While the statistic is not the end all for determining a players worth, don't you have to pause and think about why Melo's rating is low compared to the other players listed? Doesn't it lend some validity to the questions people have posted about whether Melo is worth the price that is being asked? The only way to come up with a statisitc and correlate it to something (the article says "using the metric "Wins Produced" that predicts how statistics correlate to winning.") that I know of is to run a linear regression. essentially, without knowing this dude's model, it would look something like: (y) = (b1)(x1) + (b2)(x2) + (b3)(x3) + ... + a + e or (wins) = (b1)(points) + (b2)(rebounding) + (b3)(blocks) ... + (unexplained) + (error) where the "b" is the correlation, or slope of a line, between the "x" and the "y"/wins there are a whole slew of ways to **** one of these models up. There is a ton of theory on this too, and it's called econometrics. Basically, it attempts to forecast something based upon the relationship between two variables. There are a lot of statistics to weigh in basketball, and that leaves a lot of room for error, because the less variables the better the model. It is impossible to explain what the output of the model means without knowing how the model is constructed and what the inputs are. But what he's essentially trying to draw a line through a bunch of data points DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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GodSaveTheKnicks
Posts: 23952 Alba Posts: 21 Joined: 11/21/2006 Member: #1207 USA |
![]() Multiple pieces on Melo in Truehoop today: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/23871/thursday-bullets-197
He has improved his rebounding rate. A discussion of how valid advanced statistics are in comparing NBA players would be better without immediate hostility and sarcasm on both sides. If someone publishes an article that says Melo is or isn't something...relax and take a look before just going OMG! This says Carmelo is worse/better than Player X. Obviously this is all just some stupid bs. Edit: Obviously Win Shares is not a foolproof player evaluation tool. But if it says that Lebron/Dwade/Dwight Howard are rated at a certain level and Melo is not, I'd be curious to know why. I'm sure the stat wasn't made solely to poop on Melo. Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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stanleybostitch
Posts: 20731 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/7/2006 Member: #1071 |
![]() SupremeCommander wrote:The only way to come up with a statisitc and correlate it to something (the article says "using the metric "Wins Produced" that predicts how statistics correlate to winning.") that I know of is to run a linear regression. Thank you Nate Silver! The new new core: Randle, RJ, IQ. Maybe Mitch. Future pick. Future trade. Future FA.
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
![]() GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Multiple pieces on Melo in Truehoop today: http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/23871/thursday-bullets-197 i think it's pretty obvious this article was written with the intent to poop on Melo in mind... the entire premise here is to try & prove how Melo somehow doesn't help teams win games & that the Nets & Knicks might be better off without him... if that's the case, please explain to me how the Nuggets improved so dramatically after they drafted CA going from a 17 win team the year prior to 43 wins immediately after... so we're to believe that Marcus Camby & Kenyon Martin's return was the driving force in Denver all these years & Melo was just going along for the ride, is that it? where are the stats to prove that i'm wondering?... & if that's the case why did Denver let Camby get away to begin with & why aren't they looking to sign KMart to a max extension? let's see if there's a stat to explain this strange phenomenon. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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