Finestrg wrote:

TMS wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Let me ask you a question -- suppose the Celtics never made the deal for Kevin Garnett back in '07..

Are you really trying to compare Garnett to Melo?

Amare is easily comparable to KG & you can easily make a case for Melo over Paul Pierce as well... the way Felton is playing you can put him & Rondo as at least a wash as well (the year they made the trade for KG)... is Kendrick Perkins that much better than Ronny Turiaf for that matter? the only piece you're really missing is the Ray Allen 3rd option scorer, but maybe Landry Fields can become that option? or maybe a combination of Fields & Azabuike can help to fill that role for this season & u can look to fill the role using your MLE next season? the Celtics went completely all in to try & win a championship & they accomplished their goal... why can't the Knicks do the same? because we're too afraid to deal away Gallo, AR &/or Wilson Chandler? Wilson won't be here anyway if we wait to sign Melo as a FA btw... i'm not saying it's a done deal we could get Melo for those 3 guys, but for people to assume we'd have no shot at winning a championship if we made a trade to get Melo to NY i think is off base... i think trading for Melo would make the Knicks instant title contenders in the EC personally.

Absolutely bro. Amar'e, Melo, Felton, hopefully we retain Fields, along with TD, Turiaf, Billy Walker, Andy Rautins & his shooting stroke, maybe Azubuike at a decent price if he regains form, maybe we bring back Shawne Williams on the cheap if he shows something along the way here...I mean that wouldn't be a bad foundation at all...That's a deep playoff foundation right there...We would've accomplished the big goal of bringing two stars together, two of the best players in the league at their positions for that matter, both in their prime..and there will still be some useful leftover pieces after the dust settles (see above)...Then it's a matter of piecing the rest together smartly --- go get me a Dwayne Jones, Josh Boone and/or a Vernon Goodridge for size, rebounding & dirty work; maybe we finally look to make that deal with Portland for Rudy Fernandez & Pat Mills (nice young PG depth with upside that's just buried in Portland right now), then if we're over the cap to start next season, think about using the mid-level like you said to go get a scorer off the bench to replace Chandler's offense or grab some veteran help --- there's some nice UFAs out there this summer that we could easily add to the mix using our MLE if we indeed start next year over the cap--either one big contract for one player or we could divide up the MLE on a couple of useful players (if it's even part of the new CBA--I heard it might not be, we'll have to see ) ---> Jamal Crawford, Kendrick Perkins, Big Baby Davis, Boris Diaw, JJ Barea, Caron Butler, Ty Chandler, Steve Novak, Nene, JR Smith, Shelden Williams, Tayshawn Prince, Lou Amundson, Mike Dunleavey Jr, Josh McRoberts, Rasual Butler, Craig Smith, Matt Barnes, Sasha Vujacic, Acie Law, Zach Randolph, Kris Humphries, Troy Murphy, Nick Collison, Nenad Kristic, Mo Pete, Mickael Pietrus, Grant Hill, J-Rich, Sammy Dalembert, Carl Landry, Antonie Wright, Leandro Barbosa, Reggie Evans, AK-47, CJ Miles, Hilton Armstrong, Mardy Collins, Josh Howard, Adam Morrison. Any one or some of these guys might find NY along with playing with Amar'e/Melo very intriguing...

Or maybe we elect to sign a RFA to an offer sheet and put pressure on his club to match ---> Greg Oden (maybe we take a chance if the reports are good on his health), Aaron Affalo, Jonas Jerebko, DaJuan Summers, Rodney Stuckey, Reggie Williams, Aaron Brooks, Marc Gasol, Sam Young, Mario Chalmers, CDR, Luc Mbah a Moute, Corey Brewer, Marco Belinelli, Marcus Thorton, Daquan Cook, Jeff Green, Spencer Hawes, Thad Young, Goran Dragic, Jared Dudley, Dante Cunningham, Joey Dorsey, Sonny Weems, Al Thorton, Nick Young..

Then there's the draft..We traded away last summer's pick--league rules say we keep ours this summer...We're gonna get another good player in the 1st round somewhere --- I tell ya a guy I like a lot going back to last year that's not being discussed on any mock is Arizona's Derrick Williams. Very nice player that's already off to a fast start his sophmore season - his name will be talked about more & more as the college season moves along---he'll definitely be looking to go pro. Not getting any buzz yet he's playing like a lottery pick so far...I also like Jamelle Horne from the Wildcats as well as a guy that will be available in the 2nd round...Point of all this is there will definitely be guys available to us in a number of different ways to further enhance what will already be here -- it's not like it'll be Amar'e, Melo and 13 scrubs..We'll still have opportunities to re-tool around these guys if we ever got lucky enough to get Anthony..Assets that go in the trade could be replaced--some easily, some not so easily but it can be done..I say go for it..You got a chance to get Carmelo Anthony in his prime to play alongside Amar'e Stoudemire in his prime, you do it and you don't look back..Only forward. Respect to all you guys but I can't for the life of me understand how any of you would be unhappy if Donnie went out and brought Carmelo Anthony here to play with STAT..Mind-boggling..

some of these guys around here just have no sense... once u get Melo in the fold, u can then look to acquiring players with big contracts from other teams that maybe looking to dump salary... a guy like Anderson Varejao suddenly then becomes a viable option for us to fill the C position because we wouldn't be restricted by the cap ramifications any longer... or you can target a Ty Chandler or Sammy Dalembert like you said... to think that all we need to compete in the EC is a guy like Jason Thompson is foolishness... we need to add a MAJOR piece, & then we can focus on building the rest around the 2 main pieces as our foundation... you don't focus on gathering the role players until you get the main guys in place.

Vmart wrote:

TMS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TMS wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Let me ask you a question -- suppose the Celtics never made the deal for Kevin Garnett back in '07..

Are you really trying to compare Garnett to Melo?

Amare is easily comparable to KG & you can easily make a case for Melo over Paul Pierce as well... the way Felton is playing you can put him & Rondo as at least a wash as well (the year they made the trade for KG)... is Kendrick Perkins that much better than Ronny Turiaf for that matter? the only piece you're really missing is the Ray Allen 3rd option scorer, but maybe Landry Fields can become that option? or maybe a combination of Fields & Azabuike can help to fill that role for this season & u can look to fill the role using your MLE next season? the Celtics went completely all in to try & win a championship & they accomplished their goal... why can't the Knicks do the same? because we're too afraid to deal away Gallo, AR &/or Wilson Chandler? Wilson won't be here anyway if we wait to sign Melo as a FA btw... i'm not saying it's a done deal we could get Melo for those 3 guys, but for people to assume we'd have no shot at winning a championship if we made a trade to get Melo to NY i think is off base... i think trading for Melo would make the Knicks instant title contenders in the EC personally.

Absolutely bro. Amar'e, Melo, Felton, hopefully we retain Fields, along with TD, Turiaf, Billy Walker, Andy Rautins & his shooting stroke, maybe Azubuike at a decent price if he regains form, maybe we bring back Shawne Williams on the cheap if he shows something along the way here...I mean that wouldn't be a bad foundation at all...That's a deep playoff foundation right there...We would've accomplished the big goal of bringing two stars together, two of the best players in the league at their positions for that matter, both in their prime..and there will still be some useful leftover pieces after the dust settles (see above)...Then it's a matter of piecing the rest together smartly --- go get me a Dwayne Jones, Josh Boone and/or a Vernon Goodridge for size, rebounding & dirty work; maybe we finally look to make that deal with Portland for Rudy Fernandez & Pat Mills (nice young PG depth with upside that's just buried in Portland right now), then if we're over the cap to start next season, think about using the mid-level like you said to go get a scorer off the bench to replace Chandler's offense or grab some veteran help --- there's some nice UFAs out there this summer that we could easily add to the mix using our MLE if we indeed start next year over the cap--either one big contract for one player or we could divide up the MLE on a couple of useful players (if it's even part of the new CBA--I heard it might not be, we'll have to see ) ---> Jamal Crawford, Kendrick Perkins, Big Baby Davis, Boris Diaw, JJ Barea, Caron Butler, Ty Chandler, Steve Novak, Nene, JR Smith, Shelden Williams, Tayshawn Prince, Lou Amundson, Mike Dunleavey Jr, Josh McRoberts, Rasual Butler, Craig Smith, Matt Barnes, Sasha Vujacic, Acie Law, Zach Randolph, Kris Humphries, Troy Murphy, Nick Collison, Nenad Kristic, Mo Pete, Mickael Pietrus, Grant Hill, J-Rich, Sammy Dalembert, Carl Landry, Antonie Wright, Leandro Barbosa, Reggie Evans, AK-47, CJ Miles, Hilton Armstrong, Mardy Collins, Josh Howard, Adam Morrison. Any one or some of these guys might find NY along with playing with Amar'e/Melo very intriguing...

Or maybe we elect to sign a RFA to an offer sheet and put pressure on his club to match ---> Greg Oden (maybe we take a chance if the reports are good on his health), Aaron Affalo, Jonas Jerebko, DaJuan Summers, Rodney Stuckey, Reggie Williams, Aaron Brooks, Marc Gasol, Sam Young, Mario Chalmers, CDR, Luc Mbah a Moute, Corey Brewer, Marco Belinelli, Marcus Thorton, Daquan Cook, Jeff Green, Spencer Hawes, Thad Young, Goran Dragic, Jared Dudley, Dante Cunningham, Joey Dorsey, Sonny Weems, Al Thorton, Nick Young..

Then there's the draft..We traded away last summer's pick--league rules say we keep ours this summer...We're gonna get another good player in the 1st round somewhere --- I tell ya a guy I like a lot going back to last year that's not being discussed on any mock is Arizona's Derrick Williams. Very nice player that's already off to a fast start his sophmore season - his name will be talked about more & more as the college season moves along---he'll definitely be looking to go pro. Not getting any buzz yet he's playing like a lottery pick so far...I also like Jamelle Horne from the Wildcats as well as a guy that will be available in the 2nd round...Point of all this is there will definitely be guys available to us in a number of different ways to further enhance what will already be here -- it's not like it'll be Amar'e, Melo and 13 scrubs..We'll still have opportunities to re-tool around these guys if we ever got lucky enough to get Anthony..Assets that go in the trade could be replaced--some easily, some not so easily but it can be done..I say go for it..You got a chance to get Carmelo Anthony in his prime to play alongside Amar'e Stoudemire in his prime, you do it and you don't look back..Only forward. Respect to all you guys but I can't for the life of me understand how any of you would be unhappy if Donnie went out and brought Carmelo Anthony here to play with STAT..Mind-boggling..

some of these guys around here just have no sense... once u get Melo in the fold, u can then look to acquiring players with big contracts from other teams that maybe looking to dump salary... a guy like Anderson Varejao suddenly then becomes a viable option for us to fill the C position because we wouldn't be restricted by the cap ramifications any longer... or you can target a Ty Chandler or Sammy Dalembert like you said... to think that all we need to compete in the EC is a guy like Jason Thompson is foolishness... we need to add a MAJOR piece, & then we can focus on building the rest around the 2 main pieces as our foundation... you don't focus on gathering the role players until you get the main guys in place.

I totally agree with you. Get Melo here ASAP. Having him in the fold allows the KNicks to make adjustments to the roster immediately. It sets up the core for the Knicks in Felton, Melo and Amare. The Knicks still would have good role players on the roster. Makes the Knicks legit contenders before the year is out.

How is this working for Miami? They have no room in the cap. After the 3 amigos they have no cap space left to use to get other good players in a trade.

NYKBocker wrote:

Vmart wrote:

TMS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TMS wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Let me ask you a question -- suppose the Celtics never made the deal for Kevin Garnett back in '07..

Are you really trying to compare Garnett to Melo?

Amare is easily comparable to KG & you can easily make a case for Melo over Paul Pierce as well... the way Felton is playing you can put him & Rondo as at least a wash as well (the year they made the trade for KG)... is Kendrick Perkins that much better than Ronny Turiaf for that matter? the only piece you're really missing is the Ray Allen 3rd option scorer, but maybe Landry Fields can become that option? or maybe a combination of Fields & Azabuike can help to fill that role for this season & u can look to fill the role using your MLE next season? the Celtics went completely all in to try & win a championship & they accomplished their goal... why can't the Knicks do the same? because we're too afraid to deal away Gallo, AR &/or Wilson Chandler? Wilson won't be here anyway if we wait to sign Melo as a FA btw... i'm not saying it's a done deal we could get Melo for those 3 guys, but for people to assume we'd have no shot at winning a championship if we made a trade to get Melo to NY i think is off base... i think trading for Melo would make the Knicks instant title contenders in the EC personally.

Absolutely bro. Amar'e, Melo, Felton, hopefully we retain Fields, along with TD, Turiaf, Billy Walker, Andy Rautins & his shooting stroke, maybe Azubuike at a decent price if he regains form, maybe we bring back Shawne Williams on the cheap if he shows something along the way here...I mean that wouldn't be a bad foundation at all...That's a deep playoff foundation right there...We would've accomplished the big goal of bringing two stars together, two of the best players in the league at their positions for that matter, both in their prime..and there will still be some useful leftover pieces after the dust settles (see above)...Then it's a matter of piecing the rest together smartly --- go get me a Dwayne Jones, Josh Boone and/or a Vernon Goodridge for size, rebounding & dirty work; maybe we finally look to make that deal with Portland for Rudy Fernandez & Pat Mills (nice young PG depth with upside that's just buried in Portland right now), then if we're over the cap to start next season, think about using the mid-level like you said to go get a scorer off the bench to replace Chandler's offense or grab some veteran help --- there's some nice UFAs out there this summer that we could easily add to the mix using our MLE if we indeed start next year over the cap--either one big contract for one player or we could divide up the MLE on a couple of useful players (if it's even part of the new CBA--I heard it might not be, we'll have to see ) ---> Jamal Crawford, Kendrick Perkins, Big Baby Davis, Boris Diaw, JJ Barea, Caron Butler, Ty Chandler, Steve Novak, Nene, JR Smith, Shelden Williams, Tayshawn Prince, Lou Amundson, Mike Dunleavey Jr, Josh McRoberts, Rasual Butler, Craig Smith, Matt Barnes, Sasha Vujacic, Acie Law, Zach Randolph, Kris Humphries, Troy Murphy, Nick Collison, Nenad Kristic, Mo Pete, Mickael Pietrus, Grant Hill, J-Rich, Sammy Dalembert, Carl Landry, Antonie Wright, Leandro Barbosa, Reggie Evans, AK-47, CJ Miles, Hilton Armstrong, Mardy Collins, Josh Howard, Adam Morrison. Any one or some of these guys might find NY along with playing with Amar'e/Melo very intriguing...

Or maybe we elect to sign a RFA to an offer sheet and put pressure on his club to match ---> Greg Oden (maybe we take a chance if the reports are good on his health), Aaron Affalo, Jonas Jerebko, DaJuan Summers, Rodney Stuckey, Reggie Williams, Aaron Brooks, Marc Gasol, Sam Young, Mario Chalmers, CDR, Luc Mbah a Moute, Corey Brewer, Marco Belinelli, Marcus Thorton, Daquan Cook, Jeff Green, Spencer Hawes, Thad Young, Goran Dragic, Jared Dudley, Dante Cunningham, Joey Dorsey, Sonny Weems, Al Thorton, Nick Young..

Then there's the draft..We traded away last summer's pick--league rules say we keep ours this summer...We're gonna get another good player in the 1st round somewhere --- I tell ya a guy I like a lot going back to last year that's not being discussed on any mock is Arizona's Derrick Williams. Very nice player that's already off to a fast start his sophmore season - his name will be talked about more & more as the college season moves along---he'll definitely be looking to go pro. Not getting any buzz yet he's playing like a lottery pick so far...I also like Jamelle Horne from the Wildcats as well as a guy that will be available in the 2nd round...Point of all this is there will definitely be guys available to us in a number of different ways to further enhance what will already be here -- it's not like it'll be Amar'e, Melo and 13 scrubs..We'll still have opportunities to re-tool around these guys if we ever got lucky enough to get Anthony..Assets that go in the trade could be replaced--some easily, some not so easily but it can be done..I say go for it..You got a chance to get Carmelo Anthony in his prime to play alongside Amar'e Stoudemire in his prime, you do it and you don't look back..Only forward. Respect to all you guys but I can't for the life of me understand how any of you would be unhappy if Donnie went out and brought Carmelo Anthony here to play with STAT..Mind-boggling..

some of these guys around here just have no sense... once u get Melo in the fold, u can then look to acquiring players with big contracts from other teams that maybe looking to dump salary... a guy like Anderson Varejao suddenly then becomes a viable option for us to fill the C position because we wouldn't be restricted by the cap ramifications any longer... or you can target a Ty Chandler or Sammy Dalembert like you said... to think that all we need to compete in the EC is a guy like Jason Thompson is foolishness... we need to add a MAJOR piece, & then we can focus on building the rest around the 2 main pieces as our foundation... you don't focus on gathering the role players until you get the main guys in place.

I totally agree with you. Get Melo here ASAP. Having him in the fold allows the KNicks to make adjustments to the roster immediately. It sets up the core for the Knicks in Felton, Melo and Amare. The Knicks still would have good role players on the roster. Makes the Knicks legit contenders before the year is out.

How is this working for Miami? They have no room in the cap. After the 3 amigos they have no cap space left to use to get other good players in a trade.

i would trade our entire team to have Miami's problems right now if i could... 2 of the top 5 players in the game? i'll take those kinds of problems all day... their issues are of chemistry only, they're too talented not to get it figured out eventually... our problem is a lack of talent... that kind of problem won't go away until you make moves to address it.

TMS wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

Vmart wrote:

TMS wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

TMS wrote:

knickstorrents wrote:

Finestrg wrote:Let me ask you a question -- suppose the Celtics never made the deal for Kevin Garnett back in '07..

Are you really trying to compare Garnett to Melo?

Amare is easily comparable to KG & you can easily make a case for Melo over Paul Pierce as well... the way Felton is playing you can put him & Rondo as at least a wash as well (the year they made the trade for KG)... is Kendrick Perkins that much better than Ronny Turiaf for that matter? the only piece you're really missing is the Ray Allen 3rd option scorer, but maybe Landry Fields can become that option? or maybe a combination of Fields & Azabuike can help to fill that role for this season & u can look to fill the role using your MLE next season? the Celtics went completely all in to try & win a championship & they accomplished their goal... why can't the Knicks do the same? because we're too afraid to deal away Gallo, AR &/or Wilson Chandler? Wilson won't be here anyway if we wait to sign Melo as a FA btw... i'm not saying it's a done deal we could get Melo for those 3 guys, but for people to assume we'd have no shot at winning a championship if we made a trade to get Melo to NY i think is off base... i think trading for Melo would make the Knicks instant title contenders in the EC personally.

Absolutely bro. Amar'e, Melo, Felton, hopefully we retain Fields, along with TD, Turiaf, Billy Walker, Andy Rautins & his shooting stroke, maybe Azubuike at a decent price if he regains form, maybe we bring back Shawne Williams on the cheap if he shows something along the way here...I mean that wouldn't be a bad foundation at all...That's a deep playoff foundation right there...We would've accomplished the big goal of bringing two stars together, two of the best players in the league at their positions for that matter, both in their prime..and there will still be some useful leftover pieces after the dust settles (see above)...Then it's a matter of piecing the rest together smartly --- go get me a Dwayne Jones, Josh Boone and/or a Vernon Goodridge for size, rebounding & dirty work; maybe we finally look to make that deal with Portland for Rudy Fernandez & Pat Mills (nice young PG depth with upside that's just buried in Portland right now), then if we're over the cap to start next season, think about using the mid-level like you said to go get a scorer off the bench to replace Chandler's offense or grab some veteran help --- there's some nice UFAs out there this summer that we could easily add to the mix using our MLE if we indeed start next year over the cap--either one big contract for one player or we could divide up the MLE on a couple of useful players (if it's even part of the new CBA--I heard it might not be, we'll have to see ) ---> Jamal Crawford, Kendrick Perkins, Big Baby Davis, Boris Diaw, JJ Barea, Caron Butler, Ty Chandler, Steve Novak, Nene, JR Smith, Shelden Williams, Tayshawn Prince, Lou Amundson, Mike Dunleavey Jr, Josh McRoberts, Rasual Butler, Craig Smith, Matt Barnes, Sasha Vujacic, Acie Law, Zach Randolph, Kris Humphries, Troy Murphy, Nick Collison, Nenad Kristic, Mo Pete, Mickael Pietrus, Grant Hill, J-Rich, Sammy Dalembert, Carl Landry, Antonie Wright, Leandro Barbosa, Reggie Evans, AK-47, CJ Miles, Hilton Armstrong, Mardy Collins, Josh Howard, Adam Morrison. Any one or some of these guys might find NY along with playing with Amar'e/Melo very intriguing...

Or maybe we elect to sign a RFA to an offer sheet and put pressure on his club to match ---> Greg Oden (maybe we take a chance if the reports are good on his health), Aaron Affalo, Jonas Jerebko, DaJuan Summers, Rodney Stuckey, Reggie Williams, Aaron Brooks, Marc Gasol, Sam Young, Mario Chalmers, CDR, Luc Mbah a Moute, Corey Brewer, Marco Belinelli, Marcus Thorton, Daquan Cook, Jeff Green, Spencer Hawes, Thad Young, Goran Dragic, Jared Dudley, Dante Cunningham, Joey Dorsey, Sonny Weems, Al Thorton, Nick Young..

Then there's the draft..We traded away last summer's pick--league rules say we keep ours this summer...We're gonna get another good player in the 1st round somewhere --- I tell ya a guy I like a lot going back to last year that's not being discussed on any mock is Arizona's Derrick Williams. Very nice player that's already off to a fast start his sophmore season - his name will be talked about more & more as the college season moves along---he'll definitely be looking to go pro. Not getting any buzz yet he's playing like a lottery pick so far...I also like Jamelle Horne from the Wildcats as well as a guy that will be available in the 2nd round...Point of all this is there will definitely be guys available to us in a number of different ways to further enhance what will already be here -- it's not like it'll be Amar'e, Melo and 13 scrubs..We'll still have opportunities to re-tool around these guys if we ever got lucky enough to get Anthony..Assets that go in the trade could be replaced--some easily, some not so easily but it can be done..I say go for it..You got a chance to get Carmelo Anthony in his prime to play alongside Amar'e Stoudemire in his prime, you do it and you don't look back..Only forward. Respect to all you guys but I can't for the life of me understand how any of you would be unhappy if Donnie went out and brought Carmelo Anthony here to play with STAT..Mind-boggling..

some of these guys around here just have no sense... once u get Melo in the fold, u can then look to acquiring players with big contracts from other teams that maybe looking to dump salary... a guy like Anderson Varejao suddenly then becomes a viable option for us to fill the C position because we wouldn't be restricted by the cap ramifications any longer... or you can target a Ty Chandler or Sammy Dalembert like you said... to think that all we need to compete in the EC is a guy like Jason Thompson is foolishness... we need to add a MAJOR piece, & then we can focus on building the rest around the 2 main pieces as our foundation... you don't focus on gathering the role players until you get the main guys in place.

I totally agree with you. Get Melo here ASAP. Having him in the fold allows the KNicks to make adjustments to the roster immediately. It sets up the core for the Knicks in Felton, Melo and Amare. The Knicks still would have good role players on the roster. Makes the Knicks legit contenders before the year is out.

How is this working for Miami? They have no room in the cap. After the 3 amigos they have no cap space left to use to get other good players in a trade.

i would trade our entire team to have Miami's problems right now if i could... 2 of the top 5 players in the game? i'll take those kinds of problems all day... their issues are of chemistry only, they're too talented not to get it figured out eventually... our problem is a lack of talent... that kind of problem won't go away until you make moves to address it.

TMS, once again you hit the nail on the head. I wouldn't mind Miami's problems. The problems that Miami is having is similar to the problem the 1999 Knicks were having all year until they hit the playoffs and we know what happened with that. A run to the Finals and a healthy Ewing might have brought a championship.

scoshin wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Any of you concerned by how an MDA coached team featuring Amare and Melo defends?

Not like we have a stud wing-defender as is.

Chandler's actually pretty ok on defense.

With Amare + Melo, does that mean you give up on having a wing defender or hope to find one with whatever cap space you have left?

Lakers - Kobe = elite defender. Pau/Odom/Artest all 2 way players.
Spurs - Duncan great 2 way player. Spurs defensively sound team.
Celtics - all about D. KG and Tom Thibeadaajksdfhsjkadh
Pistons - Nuff said

here's a complete list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions

For the most part it looks like you either have to defend well as a team, have your best player also be an good/great/elite defender (Kobe, Duncan, KG/Pierce) or both.

I think it would be awesome if MDA/Amare/Melo could be the exception to the rule but don't have a ton of confidence it happens.

Would love to sign Melo as a FA. Don't think a trade looks likely at this point. Worried about our defense either way though I suppose we could try to bring in guys with plus defensive makeup for every other position on the team.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:

scoshin wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:Any of you concerned by how an MDA coached team featuring Amare and Melo defends?

Not like we have a stud wing-defender as is.

Chandler's actually pretty ok on defense.

With Amare + Melo, does that mean you give up on having a wing defender or hope to find one with whatever cap space you have left?

Lakers - Kobe = elite defender. Pau/Odom/Artest all 2 way players.
Spurs - Duncan great 2 way player. Spurs defensively sound team.
Celtics - all about D. KG and Tom Thibeadaajksdfhsjkadh
Pistons - Nuff said

here's a complete list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NBA_champions

For the most part it looks like you either have to defend well as a team, have your best player also be an good/great/elite defender (Kobe, Duncan, KG/Pierce) or both.

I think it would be awesome if MDA/Amare/Melo could be the exception to the rule but don't have a ton of confidence it happens.

Would love to sign Melo as a FA. Don't think a trade looks likely at this point. Worried about our defense either way though I suppose we could try to bring in guys with plus defensive makeup for every other position on the team.

Heh, one of the reasons I want to trade for Melo now is so we can hold onto Chandler, and give up Gallo/AR/Walker, etc. instead. Having a two-way player like Chandler, who can backup 3 positions off the bench, AND slide into the lineup with Melo/Amare when we go small is a pretty ideal 6th man. I don't see Gallo having that same fit with Melo on the team.

But you're preaching to the choir when talking about defense first in order to win championships. One of the many reasons I want D'Antoni gone. But I don't think Melo is an abyssmal defender. I think he's a lazy defender, who can turn it on when needed, as he's done in past playoff games. We'll need to find a good defensive (and rebounding) C to pair with Amare, and a wing defender at the 2 (who can preferably hit the 3 -- would love to see 'Buike fill this role as he was a good defender for GS). I don't see why having Melo/Amare precludes us from ever being a good defensive team. If anything, it's Amare's defense that presents a bigger issue, but he's our $100M man and we've got to roll with it.

TheSage wrote:Curry, Chandler, Randoph and Walker for Carmelo works and is reasonable for Melo. Walker and Randolph still have the upside potential but really dont think Denver accepts at this point-maybe closer to trade deadline and probably better package than Nets can offer and still keep a semblemce of a s team. Only core player we are giving up is Chandler and Denver gets the upside with Randolph and Walker and the 1st rounder. Fair deal.

You guys are cracking me up.

One hand says Melo is a star and instantly puts us with the elite team. The other hand then says it wont cost you that much to trade for him.

Which is it? If he's a star he's going to command a star's ransom, which is blue chip prospects, salary relief and pick(s). If he's not going to cost a superstar's price why are trading for a scorer? Seems to be we are scsoring pretty good. Is Melo helping us rebound? Is Melo going to create more easy shots for our players? Is Melo going to defend the post?

Or we could trade for Melo and call it a day. IF you think whats happening in Miami isnt relevent your in denial. Melo needs 20+ shots a game to impact your W/L.

Nalod wrote:For the superfriends its about the future not the NOW.

They are more like the Legion of Doom.