crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

iSergio wrote:Some of you are crazy if you think we are better than New Jersey or Charlotte after this trade. The Nets will start Brook Lopez, Troy Murphy and Melo in the frontcourt. That's two 7' double/double players and a 30 ppg scorer. Their backcourt is young but Anthony Morrow can shoot and Jordan Farmer is solid. And Avery Johnson is an excellent coach. They win 41-45 games easily.

We see this every season. Even last year guys were talking about us improving our record since most of team was coming back for a 2nd season. We then proceed to win 29 games.

NJ will be constructed almost like Memphis with the bulk of their points coming from the forward and center positions.

Almost... except they have no OJ Mayo at SG or Zach Randolph at PF.

The Nets are also in the Eastern conference.

So are the Knicks. And you do realize that Carlos Boozer, Amare Stoudemire and co came to the East, right? No one went West. the power in the league is shifting back East. Miami, Boston, Chicago, Orlando, Atlanta, New York, Milwaukee are all miles better than the Nets even with Melo

Im confused how you are slotting in New York when we are reliant on two unproven forwards to make noise this year.

Im too tired to argue with you. I already know if Gallo and Randolph dont blow up this season Im going to hear excuses about it only technically being their sophomore years.

Contrary to an earlier report, Carmelo Anthony reportedly has not yet decided whether to agree to a long-term contract with the Nets.

"The Daily News reported Friday night that Anthony had consented to the trade. A person close to Anthony said that decision had not been made," wrote Howard Beck of The New York Times. "The person requested anonymity because he did not want to jeopardize his relationship with Anthony."

A four-team trade is near completion. But Anthony essentially holds veto power because New Jersey will not part with significant assets unless Anthony agrees to a contract extension with the team.

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/69258/20100924/source_close_to_melo_disputes_hes_agreed_to_join_nets/#ixzz10Vj6FH7Y

It has gone too far for all parties to go back now.

It will get done.

Elite wrote:I just dont see why on earth Melo would agree to go to the NETS

He wants to leave Denver cuz he wants to win, but he has a better chance to win in Denver than with NJ if they trade Harris.

What is the Nets lineup with Melo? Melo, Lopez and??????

they barely make the playoffs if they do at all.

you wait 1 year, sign with NYK and your conference finals caliber team.. Maybe more

He never said that, nor was it ever implied.

He wants to leave Denver for his own personal reasons - makes his wife happy, goes back to the East coast, whatever else.

I don't think it has to do with winning. If it did, he wouldn't be teaming with Brook Lopez and Troy Murphy.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Elite wrote:I just dont see why on earth Melo would agree to go to the NETS

He wants to leave Denver cuz he wants to win, but he has a better chance to win in Denver than with NJ if they trade Harris.

What is the Nets lineup with Melo? Melo, Lopez and??????

they barely make the playoffs if they do at all.

you wait 1 year, sign with NYK and your conference finals caliber team.. Maybe more

He never said that, nor was it ever implied.

He wants to leave Denver for his own personal reasons - makes his wife happy, goes back to the East coast, whatever else.

I don't think it has to do with winning. If it did, he wouldn't be teaming with Brook Lopez and Troy Murphy.

I think he does want to win, and thats why I dont think he will team with Troy Murphy lol we'll see

Vmart wrote:Knicks will get him when he is a free agent.

lol... yeah i'm sure NJ will give up Favors, Harris & 2 future 1st round picks for a 1 year rental of Melo.

Allanfan20 wrote:WTF would Melo be thinking to accept a trade to the Nets if they have Brook Lopez and Terrence Williams at best? No Harris, who's a good PG. No Favors. Sounds like he waaaaaaaaay cares more about the money than the basketball.

That's just assuming he would accept this trade. To me, his best move is to wait the year out and sign with the Knicks as a FA.

would it be any different from Amare taking the most money to come to a crappy team in the Knicks? who did we have at the time he signed? Gallo & Wilson Chandler? does Amare care more about the money than basketball too?

AnubisADL wrote:Would Melo still be Harrington 2.0 if the Knicks acquired him?

of course not... if he joined this team he'd be a top 5 player in the NBA... that's how it works... the uniform makes all the difference... it's like those stickers kids put on their cars to make them go fast.

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:btw just got an email from a friend. don't know who he forwarded it from but:

"Both Woj and Marc Stein have reported that Melo is thisclose to heading to the Nets in a 4 way deal.

If the reports are correct, the Nuggets will land former All-Star and multiple time All-NBA Defender Andrei Kirilenko; third overall pick Derrick Favors; and multiple first round picks in exchange for ‘Melo.

If this comes to fruition (and ‘Melo will have to indicate a willingness to sign an extension with the Nets before it does), the Knicks had no shot. In my opinion they couldn’t have competed with a deal like this even if they still had Jordan Hill and their 2012 first rounder.

That won’t stop the second-guessers but haters gonna hate. In the meantime, fans get to see the development of their young, potential star players, who, hopefully, will have us saying “Carmelo who?” by the time the season gets underway in earnest."

I think this guys take is pretty much on the $. I guess it is funny that we spent all this time and energy debating on whether to trade for Melo or not when it really just came down to:

If Melo really wanted to be on the Knicks he would either play the season out and sign as a FA or tell the Nuggets he would not extend with anyone else.

If he was willing to sign an extension with another team..despite my budding love for Gallo/Randolph etc, we never really had a chance anyway.

hey, this is from Dan L of the KnicksBlog:

http://www.knicksfan.net/?p=4203

CrushAlot wrote:

martin wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

All I know is Carmelo will be feasting on fools in the Eastern Conference. They may not be a top seed but if you got Melo I say your chances are pretty dam good.

Oh and trading Harris(aka Crawford lite) is addition by subtraction.

i don't see Melo feasting anymore than Amare and Gallo and AR and Felton.

or do the Knicks not play in the watered-down East as well?

It's just more self hate from damaged Knick fans. We have such low self esteem from all the years of losing. Our All Star won't be feasting on the PF's in the East, but Melo will be. TYPICAL!

Thanks Dr. Phil.

Melo lit up Lebron for 40. I dont see Gallo or Randolph doing that anytime soon.

how does 1 game stats make a point? Charles Smith and Crawford both scored 50 points in a game during their careers, so what, right?

The Knicks have a coach that some people on this forum predict will have future success because he was 6-5 in his first 11 games here despite only winning a total of 61 out of 164 games in NY and winning only 96/275 games that Steve Nash was not his point guard. I agree that you can quickly disregard one night or one performance but what about a two part career, one with a variable, Steve Nash and the other part without. During the 275 ganes that Nash was not D'Antoni's point guard he has won 96 games. He coached three different teams during that time and has been with the Knicks for two seasons. During the four seasons without Nash he has won at a rate just under 35% and yet his system and his coaching is supposed to lure free agents, and lead the Knicks to a championship? If there is one thing that is obvious about D'Antoni it is that he needs an mvp and two all stars on the floor to win. The Knicks don't have that and need to make a big run at Melo if there is still a chance. The Knicks need players with all star caliber talent that are able to overcome the inept coaching of D'Antoni

a big part of your argument is that because MDA didn't win the past 2 years, he is an inept coach. 11 games into his first season Donnie traded the Knicks' 2 best players and kept turning over the roster for the remainder of those 2 seasons to flush what Isiah left. And you think MDA should have coached more wins? Knicks may have underperformed last year - by about 5 games? Or were you predicting a 40 win season?

That third year without Nash... didn't he take over a floundering PHO team?

Steve Nash was a big part of what the Suns did. 2 time MVP. You take Duncan off of the Spurs and your team loses a lot more games too. You take LeBron off of the Cavs team for a good chunk of the past 2 years and that team is caca too. Does that mean those coaches are bad?