EnySpree wrote:

azamatbagatov wrote:AlL of you defending Stephenson should truly be ashamed of yourselves.

Who is defending him?

exactly, this is like the media, you say something, and then they twist your words around and make you into a woman beater..

EnySpree wrote:All I'm saying is he's a kid. This women probably is his first girlfriend. I'm assuming they were arguing in the staircase and he probably accidentally pushed her. She didn't clear the steps cuz most building steps in Brooklyn has 13. If he pushed her or threw her she would have ate the floor.

Regardless all young people go through this type of thing. He just happened to be the one to have this happen.

All this bull**** about not hitting a woman sounds good if you looking for Brownie points somewhere. Truth is some women like to run their mouths and hit guys. A 19 year old is not ready for that type if thing. I have been there plenty of times. The way I would have handled it when I was 19 is different from 30.

I'm sorry I'm not part of the in crowd that condemns the kid for this. Yes I hope he gets through this. I'm sure charges will be dropped if she gets a check.

I cannot believe you are serious.What is this? A"community" moral code? If it is as reported-he deserves some time at the Brooklyn House of Detention. No violent act resulting in physical injury should go unpunished. YES I condemn him and condemn you for the attitude shown. All young people do NOT go through this sort of thing. Violent acts are not and have never been considered permissible.

If he wants to enter the NBA, he needs to enter some serious therapy, do his time, go through his punishments, prove that he's learned his lessons, changed himself and truely feels sorry for his actions. THEN he can step on an NBA court.

Yet, to get to a basketball point, here we are complaining about Rautins. He's working on his game with team Canada, while we beeotch about not taking Stephenson as he pushes his girlfriend down a flight of stairs.

And Landry Field appears to be working with the team, but at least he hopefully isn't doing the same crap.

AnubisADL wrote:She will probably drop the charges because Stephenson is her meal ticket. 17% of NBA salary > 17% of NOTHING.

I doubt it. Her meal ticket is their child. As soon as he starts to sign higher paying contracts, her monthly allowance will go up as well.

EnySpree wrote:

TheSage wrote:

EnySpree wrote:All I'm saying is he's a kid. This women probably is his first girlfriend. I'm assuming they were arguing in the staircase and he probably accidentally pushed her. She didn't clear the steps cuz most building steps in Brooklyn has 13. If he pushed her or threw her she would have ate the floor.

Regardless all young people go through this type of thing. He just happened to be the one to have this happen.

All this bull**** about not hitting a woman sounds good if you looking for Brownie points somewhere. Truth is some women like to run their mouths and hit guys. A 19 year old is not ready for that type if thing. I have been there plenty of times. The way I would have handled it when I was 19 is different from 30.

I'm sorry I'm not part of the in crowd that condemns the kid for this. Yes I hope he gets through this. I'm sure charges will be dropped if she gets a check.

I cannot believe you are serious.What is this? A"community" moral code? If it is as reported-he deserves some time at the Brooklyn House of Detention. No violent act resulting in physical injury should go unpunished. YES I condemn him and condemn you for the attitude shown. All young people do NOT go through this sort of thing. Violent acts are not and have never been considered permissible.

I don't see anything wrong with what I wrote. Somehow its being interpreted that I think its ok abuse women. Its obvious you want to read what you wanna read.

I'm done with this thread before I get myself banned or say something that will get me in trouble

I think most here are interpreting that you give Lance a pass since he is young and stupid. Problem is that he was old enough to father a child with this woman and old enough for this to be (at least) his second offense in major issues with the law. Being young is not an excuse for acting abusive or making decisions that physically hurt others.....also the law agrees and does not differentiate a penalty if someone is 19 vs 30 years old.

Further - when you write "I'm sure the charges will be dropped if she gets a check" - it implies that you feel the woman is implicit in her own abuse, and wanted to have her head bashed ....just so she could collect in a payday. This tends to show that you actually place blame on her and have little to no sympathy for the opposite sex nor hold woman in high regard.

Sorry - but what you typed actually reveals what type of person you tend to be.

ramtour420 wrote:First of all, I think of myself as the last person to judge anyone. However, we have men and women on this planet. That is the first and foremost way to classify humans into 2 categories. Everything else comes second. If a guy is gonna be carrying a stroller up the stairs, noone will offer help. If a woman is doing it some, people will offer to help her out. It don't matter if she is 6'3 250, she is still a woman. Mr. Stephenson has clearly a very low degree of morals and ethics. I can't blame him for that. He is definately a low-life and that is his problem. If he did this to a guy, he would be just a thug. Since there is a woman involved - he is just someone to feel sorry about, thats all. Btw, I don't care what he does off the court. He is still a professional athlete and we still might be sorry for not drafting him.

When he misses time on the basketball court because he is in a legal court or locked up, you will care what he does off the court.

The red flag that hung over his head prior to the draft has just gotten a little redder.

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A man does not respond with violence even when provoked by a woman. Violence against a woman is a punk move. A cowardly act that displays nothing but a lack of self-control.

I don't care what she might have said or did. It is irrelevant. It does not make one bit of difference. Punk move. Period.

Nalod - Forget about trying to rationalize the words of enyspree... why not ask an opinion from the woman you are closest to?

Now, THAT is a manly move.

EnySpree wrote:

Nalod wrote:I think Eny got caught up in a contrarian position which I can appreciate. Its not defending but seeking to look at different angles than making a "value statement".

My take is Eny was trying to project a scenario where she provoked him. Stephenson has a history and the mere fact she has him in his life is the problem. Should a baby mamma be entitled to stay out late with the girls until 5am and not answer his calls without a beat down? I think most would agree.

It takes a bit of writing skill and patience not usually found in chat forums to fully communicate what Eny is trying to do.

You get what I'm saying. I hate retyping stuff. I just need to remember there are just some irrational people out here that only want to hear what they wanna hear....or in this case can't read for ****.

Bottom line is I don't believe the stuff reported. He hasn't been convicted of anything. He's been charged which is another way of saying accused. If its true he deserves whatever he gets. I'm not one to pass judgement because of some garbage I read in the paper.

I'm with ya on this Eny, these same people say, don't believe everything you read in the paper, then contradict themselves when it's convient.

Nalod wrote:
I guess "had it coming" was a bad choice on my part.

Does it "Justify" being thrown down the stairs? No. Never.

Don't confuse "provication" with "justification".

I prescribe to "Prevention".

Why entertain misterearl?....he's not reading anybody's posts. He's not trying to hear anything. He keeps repeating the same thing over and over.

Again at 19 you don't know any better and think you have to confront and give whoever a piece of your mind. Ive done that and cursed our a girlfriend I had in the middle of the night. Looking back that's embarrasing. Nowadays I wouldn't even call or answer texts back if things were getting crazy. When I was younger I look back and can see something like what lance is going through happen to me. Not saying I would throw a woman down the stairs and then bang her head on the floor with witnesses around watching. I think the story sounds ridiculous. One thing is for sure is the girl did fall down the stairs but I find it hard to believe he physically threw her and then spiked her head on the step. That's why we got a legal system

I wrote this already but whatever...

Cue misterearl to say "what if it was your daughter or someone else?" What is the point of repeating that? It doesn't change anything. All its doing is pissing me off to no end. I think that's misterearls real intention for anything he says on this forum. Good job bro.