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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/8/2010 1:42 PM
I really want Randolph over Ellis.
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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nyk4ever
Posts: 41010 Alba Posts: 12 Joined: 1/12/2005 Member: #848 USA |
7/8/2010 1:45 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I really want Randolph over Ellis. me too, but i'd take both lol "OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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joec32033
Posts: 30612 Alba Posts: 37 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #583 USA |
7/8/2010 1:48 PM
nyk4ever wrote:CrushAlot wrote:I really want Randolph over Ellis. If we get both.............. Douglas Wilson Ellis is Wade light in this system.... ~You can't run from who you are.~
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/8/2010 1:51 PM
Ellis and Randolph are coming to NY in this scenario?
I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Paladin55
Posts: 24321 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/6/2008 Member: #2098 |
7/8/2010 2:07 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Ellis and Randolph are coming to NY in this scenario? Not the trade being talked about, but if you really want Ellis and Randolph for Lee I think that it almost works out salary wise. I would rather have Randolph over Ellis, but maybe MDA thinks he can make Ellis into a PG Ellis' D can be terrible at times- How much time was he on the floor when Jennings went off against GS? No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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MS
Posts: 27060 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/28/2004 Member: #724 |
7/8/2010 2:15 PM
I have to say if we end up with amare and ellis even if we get AR that's an F for Walsh. You thought our defense was bad last year? That's one of the most selfish players in the league.
Essentially we took on Amare and his questionable health and Ellis when we could have resigned Lee, kept hill and let zach and jamal expire and have the cap room to go after melo and parker. Package one is fine as it maintains flexibility. Gallo will never get a shot again if that trade goes through |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
7/8/2010 2:20 PM
i think anthony randolph would be an absolute steal. he would mostly replace david lee's production and he's got more size to be a better shotblocker. go get him, donnie!!
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/17829/david-lee-waiting-on-lebron LeBron James and David Lee are the last of the top uncommitted free agents on our Top Free Agent list. ¿ △ ?
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Allanfan20
Posts: 35947 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #542 USA |
7/8/2010 2:20 PM
MS wrote:I have to say if we end up with amare and ellis even if we get AR that's an F for Walsh. You thought our defense was bad last year? That's one of the most selfish players in the league. The Knicks HAVE to take Randolph and Turiaf for Lee. It's not even a question. I would take those two over Ellis every day of the year. “Whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘Would an idiot do that?’ and if they would, I do NOT do that thing.”- Dwight Schrute
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MS
Posts: 27060 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/28/2004 Member: #724 |
7/8/2010 2:21 PM
No kidding. I want no part of Ellis. Ronny and AR is a good deal solves multiple needs and allows the knicks to add backcourt depth or just give miller 10 million to spite Miami
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Mray20
Posts: 20785 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2010 Member: #3138 |
7/8/2010 2:23 PM
I got a bad feeling we will see Gilbert Arenas in a Knicks uniform if we can't get Melo
No layups!
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Paladin55
Posts: 24321 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/6/2008 Member: #2098 |
7/8/2010 2:24 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:MS wrote:I have to say if we end up with amare and ellis even if we get AR that's an F for Walsh. You thought our defense was bad last year? That's one of the most selfish players in the league. I could definitely live with Anthony Randolph, Ronny Turiaf and Kelenna Azubuike. These are also 3 of the guys on the Warriors who actually play some D, if I remember correctly. No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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SupremeCommander
Posts: 34064 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
7/8/2010 2:26 PM
Allanfan20 wrote:MS wrote:I have to say if we end up with amare and ellis even if we get AR that's an F for Walsh. You thought our defense was bad last year? That's one of the most selfish players in the league. I'm actually a relatively big fan of Ellis' game and I agree with this completely DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/8/2010 2:27 PM
Paladin55 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:MS wrote:I have to say if we end up with amare and ellis even if we get AR that's an F for Walsh. You thought our defense was bad last year? That's one of the most selfish players in the league. I hope Walsh does this with out input from D'Antoni. I really want Randolph and I think he would push for Ellis. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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fishmike
Posts: 53861 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/8/2010 2:42 PM
Ellis is not a good defensive player, but has also never been challenged to do so. That (and his size) are his only negatives. In a lot of ways he's the David Lee of SGs. He's very effecient. He usually shoots just under 50% and gets to the line a lot. He gets a ton of assists and helps on the boards also. He's lighting quick and great in the open court.
He also gets his hands on a ton of balls. He might not be a great m2m defender but he does get in passing lanes and also comes up with a lot of steals. I didnt check but I'm guessing he's in the top 10 in the NBA at steals. OK.. I just checked and the dude is 2nd in the NBA in steals behind only Rondo. Thats a GREAT fit. A very high % scorer who gets tons of assists and steals and who is brilliant in the open court. This is not Jamal Crawford. Monta Ellis is a good player and we would run the perfect system. I would love to get Ellis back in a trade. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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TheGame
Posts: 26637 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
7/8/2010 3:04 PM
JUST SAY NO, to Ellis. He is a good guard, but he is not really a PG, is paid too much, and is terrible on defense. Save the cap space Walsh. Trade Lee for Randolph and whatever and call it a day.
Trust the Process
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Childs2Dudley
Posts: 23906 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 1/25/2010 Member: #3051 USA |
7/8/2010 3:09 PM
fishmike wrote:Ellis is not a good defensive player, but has also never been challenged to do so. That (and his size) are his only negatives. In a lot of ways he's the David Lee of SGs. He's very effecient. He usually shoots just under 50% and gets to the line a lot. He gets a ton of assists and helps on the boards also. He's lighting quick and great in the open court. Please. Monta Ellis would be an epic failure here. A chucker who averaged 5 turnovers a game last year. This guy is out of control and has a low basketball IQ. Not to mention he plays no defense. No to Monta Ellis. Bring in Anthony Randolph. "Our attitude toward life determines life's attitude towards us." - Earl Nightingale
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/8/2010 3:17 PM
Childs2Dudley wrote:fishmike wrote:Ellis is not a good defensive player, but has also never been challenged to do so. That (and his size) are his only negatives. In a lot of ways he's the David Lee of SGs. He's very effecient. He usually shoots just under 50% and gets to the line a lot. He gets a ton of assists and helps on the boards also. He's lighting quick and great in the open court. +1 I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
7/8/2010 3:21 PM
fishmike wrote:Ellis is not a good defensive player, but has also never been challenged to do so. That (and his size) are his only negatives. In a lot of ways he's the David Lee of SGs. He's very effecient. He usually shoots just under 50% and gets to the line a lot. He gets a ton of assists and helps on the boards also. He's lighting quick and great in the open court. Let's not forget that he's a shooting guard (not even a point guard) who averaged 4 turnovers a game last year |