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Allanfan20
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5/21/2010  12:18 AM
sebstar wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
sebstar wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:In many cases, it can be a sign of a behavior or emotional or other psychological disorder, just as drinking alchohal can be as well. Don't just jump to conclusions when you're not sure what the answer is.

haha. You spit some wacky stuff sometimes. I'm still trying to figure out of you're on the level with some of the posts you direct at me. I hope you're not serious with this.

Do you throw insults to people like this in person who have arguements with you? If I happen to disagree with you frequently, it's no offense. I just disagree.

I wasnt even trying to insult you --- and hell yeah, I talk to people like that. I'm one of those new aged, opinionated young bosses.

But bruh, I was tryin' to give you an out, because your post was absurd. How does the mere act of smoking or drinking indicate a pyschological defect? There is no tangible connective tissue with the act itself.

Now if he was caught touching on some little kid, or if he beat the hell out of his grandma, then that act alone could inform you that he's got something wrong. But a lil puff?

And yeah, hardcore consistent abuse could lead to mental wear and tear, but we've seen nothing to suggest in his past or his present that there is any hint of substance abuse. Recreational drugs are just a way to feel instant comfort, just like people would rather eat sloppy ass MCdonalds insted of preparing a healthy meal knowing damn well that food kills. Immediate gratification.

Its like finding out a bunch of rapists chew gum so you make the correlation that purchasing gum could indicate a psychological disorder.

Trust me, I know eating bad food kills too. Believe me on that, and I'm not ranking drugs, alchy and unhealthy too. To me, all three are on the same level. If you do a little, whatever.

However, if you see a kid who smokes weed frequently, you're damn right it could be a sign that there's something else wrong going on with him. Whether you like it or not, it's a symptom. It doesn't mean there definitely IS something wrong, but it means there could be. Same with a guy who eats poor consistently or drinks.

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Allanfan20
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5/21/2010  12:20 AM
And my post wasn't absurd. It might not be correct, but at least I back my **** up with an intelligent arguement. Your posting isn't any better or worse than mine bro, and if it were a real life arguement, your damn right I'd say that to you.
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5/21/2010  8:19 AM
Anyone who wants to smoke ought to smoke at home. Why drive around in Queens in a high priced car with your headlights off and weed pouring out the windows? That's just plain STUPID.

Other than that I'd say if he wants to get lit up and have it affect his work that's his choice - EXCEPT - we watch these Knicks and right now these Knicks suck. Chandlers play has been a part of that. The fact that half the time he plays real REAL dumb at times: Stepping out of bounds frequently. Bad passes. Chucking 3's when he can and should drive to the rim --- and driving to the rim into traffic when he had a wide open 3 to take. Stuff like that makes you shake your head.

Then you start to think, well wait a minute, is that lack of mental focus a part of his drug problem? I don't want to hear the pot heads tell me weed doesn't hurt your mind because as a person who smoked it for a good 10 years relentlessly it turns you into a mental midget. There is no debating this. You also don't "clear up" a day afterwards you are still one dumb fool. Takes quite some time after quitting for good to get your real senses and intelligence back.

So this is where I have the second problem with athletes doing drugs: You're paid millions to play a game. You are obligated to be in top physical and mental shape. Doing drugs and twittering about how life sucks is going to draw the ire of fans who watch, and pay to watch, you play your best.

If you're not playing your best (clearly the case with Chandler more frequently than should be) and you are known to be absuing drugs (clearly is, don't give me this he just smoked for the first time because of surgery BS), and you talk like you're depressed and unhappy (a clear side effect of drugs on many many people) - THEN YOURE GOING TO BE CALLED OUT FOR IT.


Don't quite see why anyone would defend him in this context. Weed like any other drug is NOT harmless. TO say otherwise is either ignorance or an intent to rationalize your own abuse of substances as being okay.

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5/21/2010  8:36 AM
Cosmic wrote:More...

Chandler, who had a 22-year-old passenger, was arrested and charged with criminal possession of marijuana. He was given a desk appearance ticket.

Word of Chandler's arrest stunned and angered his grandmother, 76-year-old Olivia Chandler of Benton Harbor, Mich.

"I don't know about pot in his car, I ain't heard nothing from him yet," she told The Daily News. "I didn't raise him to smoke pot."

Asked about Chandler's recent state of mind, the grandma said "he just had surgery."

The 6-foot-8-inch forward missed the final month of play after suffering a groin strain and was scheduled to undergo sports hernia surgery.

Chandler's uncle said he too was shocked by the arrest.

"Ah goodness, I didn't think he messed with that stuff," said Al Chandler, 50, of Temple Hills, Md. "He's a good guy. Obviously he must have been in the wrong place at the wrong time."

Does he ment being in NBA?

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5/21/2010  8:58 AM
Cosmic wrote:Anyone who wants to smoke ought to smoke at home. Why drive around in Queens in a high priced car with your headlights off and weed pouring out the windows? That's just plain STUPID.

Other than that I'd say if he wants to get lit up and have it affect his work that's his choice - EXCEPT - we watch these Knicks and right now these Knicks suck. Chandlers play has been a part of that. The fact that half the time he plays real REAL dumb at times: Stepping out of bounds frequently. Bad passes. Chucking 3's when he can and should drive to the rim --- and driving to the rim into traffic when he had a wide open 3 to take. Stuff like that makes you shake your head.

Then you start to think, well wait a minute, is that lack of mental focus a part of his drug problem? I don't want to hear the pot heads tell me weed doesn't hurt your mind because as a person who smoked it for a good 10 years relentlessly it turns you into a mental midget. There is no debating this. You also don't "clear up" a day afterwards you are still one dumb fool. Takes quite some time after quitting for good to get your real senses and intelligence back.

So this is where I have the second problem with athletes doing drugs: You're paid millions to play a game. You are obligated to be in top physical and mental shape. Doing drugs and twittering about how life sucks is going to draw the ire of fans who watch, and pay to watch, you play your best.

If you're not playing your best (clearly the case with Chandler more frequently than should be) and you are known to be absuing drugs (clearly is, don't give me this he just smoked for the first time because of surgery BS), and you talk like you're depressed and unhappy (a clear side effect of drugs on many many people) - THEN YOURE GOING TO BE CALLED OUT FOR IT.


Don't quite see why anyone would defend him in this context. Weed like any other drug is NOT harmless. TO say otherwise is either ignorance or an intent to rationalize your own abuse of substances as being okay.

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5/21/2010  9:25 AM
i'm confused.. was wilson caught smoking weed or did the police just find some in his car? maybe he bought it and was on his way home with it...
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7/12/2010  12:26 PM
So apparently Wilson Chandler tested CLEAN. The weed wasn't his. No suspension.
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7/12/2010  12:33 PM
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:
fishmike wrote:
iSergio wrote:
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iSergio wrote:No big deal.
he's going to start the year suspended I will tell you that much

Which is ridiculous. It's freaking pot. It's 2010, who cares?

how old are you?

27, why?

cause I like MaryJane as much as the next guy but thats a pretty juvenile statement. Its illegal. If your going to do that you simply have to be smarter. Chandler is a pro athlete in the NBA. You don't think this impacts his trade value? Potentially his contract at the end of the year? Any chance of endorsements?

Its stupid on Chandler's part.

Fair enough. I agree it was VERY stupid of Wilson Chandler to do this while driving - especially in Queens. But I honestly don't think this has any impact at all. Chandler has been a good soldier his entire career and this was one little mistake. I personally wouldn't take it too seriously.

I hope your right, but there is a definatly a culture/image problem with this stuff in the NBA. I agree with you as well, it shouldnt matter, but it does, and Chandler should know that.

Wilson said he tested negative... hope he's right. He should get punished for keeping careless company, but hopefully it's just a game

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7/12/2010  12:41 PM
Cosmic wrote:Why drive around in Queens in a high priced car with your headlights off and weed pouring out the windows?

Because he's 23 and looking for *****. Maybe it's stupid but I empathize

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
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7/12/2010  1:44 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Why drive around in Queens in a high priced car with your headlights off and weed pouring out the windows?

Because he's 23 and looking for *****. Maybe it's stupid but I empathize

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7/12/2010  5:23 PM
they found out the weed belonged to chris simms..clean white boy from nothern jersey suburbs..he was caught driving with his prego wife probably tooting herself..if the kid comes out like palin's last kid hmmmm..now id love love love to see ms chris simms on nj housewives next season
Wilson trying to make Lebron and Gloria feel at home......

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